User talk:Daniel Case
Hi, welcome to the 26th volume of my talk page.
P.S.
[edit]I lived in NJ for a while! Close to Denville, and I worked in Earth sciences at Columbia. I passed through Englewood sometimes :) . -Darouet (talk) 01:32, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Other than what my birth certificate says, I have no real connection to, nor memory of, Englewood.
- We lived in Leonia at the time, and later moved across the Hudson for a year to Riverdale (so I can say I once lived in the city
) I have more memories of where we moved later—Lyndhurst, Chatham and eventually Summit, the last of where we lived for nine years and where I consider myself to be from. Daniel Case (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Protection for AJ Styles
[edit]Could you look at the recent activity at AJ Styles and consider further temporary semi-protection? You’ve applied it a few times before, the most recent one ending in March, and now, after three months of protection, the same editor has made the same edit that got the article protected, three times in about ten days. I put it up for increased protection but it got denied for not enough disruptive activity. I think the admin only saw the most recent offense and not the previous two under different user names. Thanks. NJZombie (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Done It is now under six months semi-protection and I have logged this at WP:GS/PW. Daniel Case (talk) 21:35, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! NJZombie (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Report
[edit]173.23.106.234 has been disrupting articles by removing content calling them promotional without any reason. I tried reporting them using twinkle but didn't find right option. Can you please tell how exactly to report such Users? saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 17:17, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have blocked them 24 hours for disruptive editing since they kept doing it past their final warning (and do not really appear interested in discussion, which repeatedly invoking WP:NOT is, well, not. Daniel Case (talk) 20:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Wamalotpark/3RR
[edit]Unfortunately, this user has again decided to ignore and blank a 3RR warning on List of United States over-the-air television networks, along with calling OVERLINK on an article where the link is fine, and continues to use edit summaries (including a mention of me, an unknown person to them, as bud) rather than any talk discussion (shut down with blanking) to continue maintaining their version of an article despite patient explanation from others as to why these edits are not needed. Nathannah • 📮 19:23, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm going to hold off on this one for now. Another editor restored a templated warning they had blanked, something they are allowed to do. This very often needlessly enrages people, and that seems to have happened here.
- This was the right move on your part. Let's give them a chance. Because otherwise their recent edits seem not to have met with any objections. Daniel Case (talk) 19:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please look at my talk page for my response. This user seems to compulsively twist the narrative to make me look bad. They insulted me on my talk page by saying "Worry about actual article content" and I should just focus on stuff "that matters", even though I enjoy working on grammar and MOS related content. They are the only person to object to me lowercasing the "the" at the beginning of "the Walt Disney Company" in a running sentence per MOS:INSTITUTIONS. I've now responded on my talk page, but they did not seem very friendly and I do not like the way they frame things with outright lies. Wamalotpark (talk) 00:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have so seen. It is better that, as Churchill put it, you jaw-jaw than war-war. Feel free to bring other people into this discussion through a post to the appropriate noticeboard; you're more likely to get consensus this way. Daniel Case (talk) 00:22, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please look at my talk page for my response. This user seems to compulsively twist the narrative to make me look bad. They insulted me on my talk page by saying "Worry about actual article content" and I should just focus on stuff "that matters", even though I enjoy working on grammar and MOS related content. They are the only person to object to me lowercasing the "the" at the beginning of "the Walt Disney Company" in a running sentence per MOS:INSTITUTIONS. I've now responded on my talk page, but they did not seem very friendly and I do not like the way they frame things with outright lies. Wamalotpark (talk) 00:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
AIV
[edit][1] it's a known LTA (see their deleted edits for one of their usual tells, or email for details). DMacks (talk) 02:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- OK ... I see ToBeFree has taken care of them. It just wasn't clear to me from the report. Daniel Case (talk) 03:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yup. The crazy stuff that happens when I step out for coffee and other Real World things. DMacks (talk) 04:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Advice
[edit]Hiya Daniel, could you please take a look at my talk page and advise on the request on the bottom there. I happened to agree with an IP on a matter and now the IP requests I make a page. Does this fall foul of some WP policy? I don't wish to be accused (or guilty) of doing summat that runs contrary to policy. I checked Wikipedia:No soliciting of cliques, but I'm not sure, ta.Halbared (talk) 08:53, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't AFAIK. You make a good case for deleting the article (which isn't to say there's no need for community consensus). But it's good that you erred on the side of caution and asked. Daniel Case (talk) 17:49, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
About Protection of Harry Potter
[edit]Hi Daniel, are you considering downgrading Harry Potter’s protection to either extended confirmed protection or semi-protection? I show no interest in editing the page itself, just concerned about how long the full protection will last. I understand that Harry Potter is a very popular article, and thank you for your contributions! HwyNerd Mike (contribs | talk) 23:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's downgraded to indef semi. I don't know why I put it on indef full ... must have been a mistake. Or did the request ask for indef? I can't remember. Daniel Case (talk) 03:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Quick question about lack of edit notice on a semi-protected CTOP article
[edit]Hi, in this edit, you let an editor know that Deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia was semi-protected for 2 weeks. I'm not sure when those 2 weeks started/expire(d). The CTOP notice at the top of the talk page says that edits are limited to editors who are logged-in to an autoconfirmed or confirmed account, but there is no notice about this if someone attempts to edit the article (at least, I'm not seeing one, though I think there used to be one). Has the semi-protection expired? Or am I just misremembering about there being a notice that shows up when someone attempts to edit a protected article? (Asking because I just reverted a significant edit from an IP editor, who should not have edited the article if its still semi-protected.) Also, would it be possible to add an edit notice about BLP and AP2 applying to this article? Thanks, FactOrOpinion (talk) 18:37, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Answering in bullet points:
- Muboshgu protected the page for just a week, actually. I was perhaps confused by the request for a 2-week extension above it when I added the note that it was already protected, given that I review a lot of protection requests.
- Protection began, according to the log, on April 18 so it expired two days ago. When a page is under protection, the notice that appears above the edit window gives the date of expiry.
- When an editor who cannot edit a protected article attempts to do so, the edit window shows a red background of the same color as the aforementioned edit notice. Source text can be copied, and edited on another page if an editor not at that access level wishes to propose an edit request on the talk page, but they cannot save any changes they make to the original page.
- As far as adding an editnotice about the CTOP designation, we generally have not been doing that where we've imposed semi-protection since the software already takes care of that (and that would also be the case with ECP). It's most effective in cases like ARBPIA where the standard restrictions include 1RR or 0RR, and anywhere we've imposed that in other topic areas, since the software cannot enforce it and therefore we rely on users to police themselves and file ANEW reports when that restriction is breached.
- I would really like it if the CTOPS notice accommodated multiple topic areas. But currently it does not.
- Daniel Case (talk) 19:04, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for all that info. I'll put in another request for semi-protection, as we have IPs inserting false information and edit warring in attempts to make huge non-consensus edits to the lead (the article topic is still very much in the news, with the Trump admin still defying a Supreme Court order). FactOrOpinion (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- One other question, given that the semi-protection ended: why does the CTOP notice on the talk page still say that an editor must be logged-in to edit the page? (Does that apply even if the page isn't protected? Or is there simply not a way to link the end of the page protection with the removal of that rule, so it remains there unless someone removes it?) FactOrOpinion (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Another change I'd love to see is a bot that edits those templates to correspond with the level of protection currently applicable. It's just far too much for a human to keep up with. But, as it is, if that deters bad-actor editors from the page, then why not? Daniel Case (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- One other question, given that the semi-protection ended: why does the CTOP notice on the talk page still say that an editor must be logged-in to edit the page? (Does that apply even if the page isn't protected? Or is there simply not a way to link the end of the page protection with the removal of that rule, so it remains there unless someone removes it?) FactOrOpinion (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for all that info. I'll put in another request for semi-protection, as we have IPs inserting false information and edit warring in attempts to make huge non-consensus edits to the lead (the article topic is still very much in the news, with the Trump admin still defying a Supreme Court order). FactOrOpinion (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
Since you have left a CTOP note on the tp of that article, can you take a look at Aetolia? They have been edit warring for some time, removing content sourced to academic RS. On the article's tp they have made some original research claims and have not provided any RS to back them. On their own tp they have received several warnings, including for making legal threats. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have formally warned them for edit-warring on that article. Daniel Case (talk) 05:30, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had the wrong impression that they had already been warned for edit warring. They are edit warring again, and keep making personal attacks. Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hey Daniel, Aetolia started to change the article again (and has caused a mess on the tp by copy-pasting our comments). They are using 2 maps which they claim prove their point. Since you seem to be interested in geography, can you take a look at it to check whether the maps are useful or not? Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had the wrong impression that they had already been warned for edit warring. They are edit warring again, and keep making personal attacks. Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
New message to Daniel Case
[edit]Hello, Could you raise protection for Wikipedia back to ECP? It's been persistently vandalized by a now-blocked user. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk · contribs) 21:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Maybe you'll have better luck than I did
[edit]I said essentially the same thing. You were nicer though, so hopefully it'll stick.-- Ponyobons mots 19:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, we have to try that before we come down with a block, I think.
- I do get the feeling this user may have some cognitive reason for doing this. Some people's brains just work that way—they can't handle adding a source at the same time as their text. Daniel Case (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Can you please look at this
[edit]Hello hope you are well, can you please check and revert latest addition on Ivan Crnojevic page, I feel that there is some serious wp:gaming going on, first the ip started with the disruptive editing on the page [[2]] and then directly after spending their 3rr this user appeared and did the same types of disruptive edits [[3]] so I wonder are they the same person. Thank you. Theonewithreason (talk) 19:30, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm. I notice they did not respond to your accusation of LOUTSOCKing. And the IP address resolves to Serbia.
- I will ask them about this on their talk page. And leave a CTOPS notice on the article talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 19:50, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes this is very strange behaviour, also the current stand of the lede in Ivan Crnojevic where they are stating that Crnojevic was Serbian leader according to Serbian historians is obviously bias, I don't think this goes under good faith edits, they could have added like Monetnegrin/Serbian leader or something like this. Theonewithreason (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:NAT ... as I just told Critikal, it's at the heart of so many of our contentious-topic designations. Daniel Case (talk) 20:01, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes this is very strange behaviour, also the current stand of the lede in Ivan Crnojevic where they are stating that Crnojevic was Serbian leader according to Serbian historians is obviously bias, I don't think this goes under good faith edits, they could have added like Monetnegrin/Serbian leader or something like this. Theonewithreason (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
3RR interpretation
[edit]Khirurg made 3 reverts on Northern Epirus within 21 hours [4][5][6]. After I warned them about edit warring [7], they stayed inactive on enwiki for a day, then returned and immediately made the 4th revert [8]. Is the user within their rights here or is this considered a case of gaming the 3RR? Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. Per WP:4RR: Fourth reverts just outside the 24-hour period will usually also be considered edit warring, especially if repeated or combined with other edit-warring behavior.
- Especially given that the user's been blocked for edit warring before more than once (although, granted, the last time was over two years ago). Daniel Case (talk) 22:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- My last two edits are over a day and a half apart, not just outside the 24 hour window [9]. Plus this is not really a revert [10] - there is no previous version reverted to. And I have been discussing in the article talkpage, where I made my case, unlike the party that reverted me. Khirurg (talk) 23:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- You keep posting on the tp, and you keep reverting at the same time. The diff you mention above is a revert, as you removed content that had just been added by me and Maleschreiber ("implausibly", "many", "systematic" which change the meaning of their sentences). You are fully aware of the DS regarding the Balkans, as you alert other editors about them [11] and in the past you received AE-logged sanctions and alerts, so edit warring on such an article in particular does not give a good impression. Anyways, it is up to Daniel to decide what is the right path to follow in this case. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:25, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- "
My last two edits are over a day and a half apart, not just outside the 24 hour window
" See WP:LAWYER. "Plus this is not really a revert [10] - there is no previous version reverted to.
" As noted by Ktrimi "You keep posting on the tp, and you keep reverting at the same time.
" See WP:STATUSQUO. Good and conscientious editors do not touch the article during ongoing discussion. Daniel Case (talk) 00:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)- Ok then how am I supposed to deal with stuff like this [12]. Massive removals of sourced info, WP:NINJA-style reverts. How is a good and conscientious editor supposed to deal with that? Please advise. Khirurg (talk) 14:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- You could request full protection for a short time. It also seems like at least one other editor agrees with you. Daniel Case (talk) 15:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the last 24 hours, the edit warring is entirely linked to Alexikoua. If you check the reverts, they are all either Alexikoua reverting other editors, or other editors reverting Alexikoua. He has already made 3 reverts in the last 24 hours. So IMO, better than article protection, Alexikoua needs to stop edit warring against multiple editors. The others too should not revert, but when there is a case of one editor vs multiple editors, the former is the one that has the most to reflect on. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:1AM. Maybe it's time to report this at WP:ANEW where some fresh eyes can take a look. Daniel Case (talk) 20:31, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I gave them a formal warning. If they revert again, I will report. Otherwise if they don't revert again, I am happy to conclude that they have reflected on the issue. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:37, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:1AM. Maybe it's time to report this at WP:ANEW where some fresh eyes can take a look. Daniel Case (talk) 20:31, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the last 24 hours, the edit warring is entirely linked to Alexikoua. If you check the reverts, they are all either Alexikoua reverting other editors, or other editors reverting Alexikoua. He has already made 3 reverts in the last 24 hours. So IMO, better than article protection, Alexikoua needs to stop edit warring against multiple editors. The others too should not revert, but when there is a case of one editor vs multiple editors, the former is the one that has the most to reflect on. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- You could request full protection for a short time. It also seems like at least one other editor agrees with you. Daniel Case (talk) 15:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok then how am I supposed to deal with stuff like this [12]. Massive removals of sourced info, WP:NINJA-style reverts. How is a good and conscientious editor supposed to deal with that? Please advise. Khirurg (talk) 14:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- My last two edits are over a day and a half apart, not just outside the 24 hour window [9]. Plus this is not really a revert [10] - there is no previous version reverted to. And I have been discussing in the article talkpage, where I made my case, unlike the party that reverted me. Khirurg (talk) 23:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: When a group of editors gang up on one or two editors and take turns reverting so as to avoid WP:3RR, isn't that considered tag teaming? Because this is what is going on here. There are two groups of editors with different POVs, but one group outnumbers the other. Khirurg (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have to set aside the time and take a long look at what's going on. But it is increasingly looking like 1AM. Daniel Case (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, the situation does call for an experienced admin to take a look [13]. One side adds whatever it likes, and then removes sourced material with little or no explanation [14]. If you look at the contribs history of the editors doing this, it is obvious that they share the same background. Khirurg (talk) 21:21, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Since you are making these "tag-teaming" accusations, isn't it a bit suspicious that Alexikoua returned after more than a month of inactivity, precisely when you ran out of reverts (you had made 4 reverts)? Is it a coincidence that in March too Alexikoua returned after months of inactivity, just to make some comments supporting your POV on the tp of Byzantine Greeks? Are you accusing others of things you are doing yourself? If each of us started to make accusations about everything we see as suspicious, the editing process would become impossible. Baseless accusations do not help, better focus on content. We need to improve the article, not accuse each other without evidence.Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- You were warned in the past by another admin about making baseless "tag-teaming" accusations (and the admin blocked you 2 days later)[15]. Given this and the fact that you have an AE-logged warning about personal attacks, making such accusations after apparently gaming the 3RR does not help creating a good environment on the tp. Better focus on content. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- And you were told by an admin [16] to stop casting WP:ASPERSIONS like you did here [17], to the point where they felt the need to remove your comments from the talkpage [18], something which is incredibly rare. "Focus on content" yes, but I'm counting 6 reverts [19] [20] [21] [22] (removal of well-sourced info because "ahistorical") [23] [24] (an editor that has never edited the article before [25] reverting me within less than an hour) in the last 3 days (of which 5 in the last 2 days) by editors that share the same viewpoint and background as you, so yes, I am calling ethnic bloc editing here. It's not just "multiple editors", it's multiple editors that have the same background. "Focus on content" sure, but it's getting really hard to do so when so many edits by one group of editors are being removed in this manner. If one side just adds whatever it wants and removes the other editors' additions, we have a big problem.
- @Daniel Case: When something very similar happened at Pashalik of Yanina [26] a couple of years ago, when the same group of editors refused to accept some well-sourced additions to the article [27], Firefangledfeathers (talk · contribs) placed an "affirmative consensus" restriction on the article [28], which worked like a charm in reducing disruption. Another potential solution is collective 3RR for groups of editors sharing the same POV, but that may be more difficult to implement. Thank you for your consideration. Khirurg (talk) 03:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see you've pinged them; let's see if they join in and offer some input. Daniel Case (talk) 04:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- My input is that this looks to be a dispute ready for AE. Possibly the page should be fully protected in the meantime. Khirurg, you're close to being blocked solely on continuing to make unevidenced accusations of tag-teaming. It's not about other editors all disagreeing with you. It's about coordination. For an example of evidence of coordination, take your cue from Ktrimi991's point about the timing of Alexikoua's participation. It's not conclusive evidence, but it's the difference between a reasonable interpretation and an aspersion. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:01, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
And you were told by an admin to stop casting WP:ASPERSIONS
The admin did not tell me to "stop", it was a single comment, and I agreed with the admin's advice and I thanked them. I did not receive any warning. People can check the diffs, anyone can see what happened there. The admin too can pinged for clarification if necessary. Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)- Daniel, Alexikoua made 3 reverts within 24 hours [29][30][31]. Then after I warned them, they waited for some hours and made the 4th [32]. This is IMO a patent case of gaming the 3RR. Virtually all reverts on the article in the last 2 days are either Alexikoua reverting other editors, or others reverting him. As I don't have time to prepare an ANEW report, it would be helpful if you intervened. This is wasting too much time and some have resorted to baseless accusations etc. Maybe I am done with that article. Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see you've pinged them; let's see if they join in and offer some input. Daniel Case (talk) 04:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, the situation does call for an experienced admin to take a look [13]. One side adds whatever it likes, and then removes sourced material with little or no explanation [14]. If you look at the contribs history of the editors doing this, it is obvious that they share the same background. Khirurg (talk) 21:21, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have to set aside the time and take a long look at what's going on. But it is increasingly looking like 1AM. Daniel Case (talk) 21:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: When a group of editors gang up on one or two editors and take turns reverting so as to avoid WP:3RR, isn't that considered tag teaming? Because this is what is going on here. There are two groups of editors with different POVs, but one group outnumbers the other. Khirurg (talk) 21:14, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
(unindent) @Daniel Case, @Firefangledfeathers: All my edits undone with a blanket rv [33], sourced additions, copyedits, even ref fixes. And again, by another user of the same persuasion, that has never edited the article before [34]. Khirurg (talk) 14:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Khirurg, if you’re going to bring my editing to the attention of the administrators, I kindly ask that you have the courtesy to ping me directly so I can participate in the discussion. You also know very well that I am heavily involved in articles of this topic area, such as Chameria and Epirus, where similar disputes have now arisen alongside this current one. We’ve had many prior interactions, discussions, and disagreements, so please don’t pretend to be surprised at my involvement now. I’ve been consistently active in Albanian-related historical articles and have contributed constructively for years, and these articles are all on my watchlist.
- @Daniel Case, @Firefangledfeathers - what’s deeply concerning here is the language that continues to emerge from Khirurg, and not just in isolated moments, but as part of a documented and escalating pattern of behaviour. Prior to the involvement of Firefangledfeathers, Khirurg had already used phrases like:
- “
they share the same background
” - "
editors that share the same viewpoint and background as you
" - “
ethnic bloc editing here
” - “
multiple editors that have the same background
” - “
the same group of editors refused to accept…
”
- “
- This kind of rhetoric already raised serious concerns, but after Firefangledfeathers directly warned them — “
Khirurg, you're close to being blocked solely on continuing to make unevidenced accusations of tag-teaming
” - Khirurg immediately resumed this pattern by referring to me as “another user of the same persuasion
” in the comment above. At this point, it's really starting to seem like a racial profiling of editors. What does “same persuasion” even mean? Why is participation by multiple editors with an interest in Albanian history being framed as suspicious or conspiratorial? These are Albanian-related articles. Why are you surprised that editors from the Albanian topic area are involved? - It is completely inappropriate to imply that shared cultural or ethnic background constitutes some kind of bad-faith "bloc". This violates WP:ASPERSIONS (again) and WP:WITCHHUNT when you take into account the fact that they have been blocked for this behaviour previously and have unsuccessfully filed a "tag-teaming" report at the ANI previously. This creates a hostile, WP:BATTLEGROUND atmosphere where editors are treated with suspicion for merely engaging in content relevant to their interests.
- At this point, it’s clear that this is no longer about a content dispute - this is an obsessive pattern of conduct. Khirurg has made it a point to track, label and discredit editors who engage with Albanian-related articles, repeatedly invoking ethnicity or presumed background as a basis for suspicion. This is not a one-off. It’s a persistent fixation, even continuing after a direct and explicit warning from an administrator. That should be the final straw. The warnings have been given. They’ve been disregarded. It is time for action.
- I therefore respectfully urge you - @Daniel Case, @Firefangledfeathers - to impose a block or another appropriate sanction. This conduct goes against the collaborative principles of Wikipedia, and if allowed to continue, it sets a harmful precedent: that editors can engage in racialized profiling and battleground behaviour with impunity, so long as they cloak it in vague accusations. This behaviour is disruptive, targeted and escalating. Enough is enough. I would have taken this to the appropriate noticeboard if Khirurg had not already been warned in this discussion alone, only to resume that same behaviour soon after so that they may target another editor "
of the same persuasion
"... Botushali (talk) 16:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)- OK. Firefangledfeathers has full-protected the article for a week, which is exactly what I was going to do. And I strongly second him on this going to AE.
- I would also suggest that, when that full protection expires, we put the article on 1RR for the time being.
- If Khirurg continues casting aspersions during the protection, or proposing the same unbalanced take on the lede that Botushali has pointed out, then he will be blocked as AE under CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 17:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
I strongly second him on this going to AE
How can an article dispute be reported to AE? Do admins evaluate the content dispute or the behaviour of the editors? Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2025 (UTC)- This is seeming to be more about the conduct involved ... Daniel Case (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. I thought that you were talking about the content dispute per se. It would be great to have AE evaluate the conduct of the editors, but seeing here how 2 admins just keep giving warning after warning to the same editor about the same "tag-teaming" and "background" comments without solving anything, I am not sure how much AE will be able to evaluate 7 or 8 editors. Anyways. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- This, especially for someone relatively new to this, is more complicated than the usual dispute. Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the Demographics section, the last ref of the article has an error. It needs the closing tag (</ref>) to be added. It would be helpful if you did that, so for readers the article does not end with confusing text. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
Done [35]. Sorry it took a while ... I was busier than I expected IRL yesterday and as such took to bed earlier than I had thought I would. Daniel Case (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, much appreciated. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:50, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the Demographics section, the last ref of the article has an error. It needs the closing tag (</ref>) to be added. It would be helpful if you did that, so for readers the article does not end with confusing text. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- This, especially for someone relatively new to this, is more complicated than the usual dispute. Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. I thought that you were talking about the content dispute per se. It would be great to have AE evaluate the conduct of the editors, but seeing here how 2 admins just keep giving warning after warning to the same editor about the same "tag-teaming" and "background" comments without solving anything, I am not sure how much AE will be able to evaluate 7 or 8 editors. Anyways. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is seeming to be more about the conduct involved ... Daniel Case (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
What happened?
[edit]Hi @Daniel Case, I'm just asking, why did you a semi-protecting a Volvo Cars page? I'm feel objected to the semi-protection on that page. I hope you can answer my question I've been asked for. Thanks. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 12:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I said when I protected the page that it had a long history of disruptive editing which had led to several protections so I would be protecting it indefinitely this time.
- You could go to WP:RFPP/D and request the protection be lifted, although I doubt that would succeed. Perhaps a request to drop it to pending changes might work, but I make no promises.
- Failing that, it will take some time and effort on your part, but once you have made 300 edits and gone 50 days from your first edit a couple of weeks ago, you will gain extended-confirmed rights (But don't try to do that by making a bunch of minor edits to random pages or something like that. You'll get caught. Get those rights honestly.
- Also, the talk page is not protected, and you may post edit requests there, like this one from almost two years ago, if there are specific changes you think should be made. Daniel Case (talk) 15:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: It's 500 edits/30 days. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Whatever I think it is I always get it wrong
. Daniel Case (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Whatever I think it is I always get it wrong
- @Daniel Case: It's 500 edits/30 days. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
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Disruptive IP Editor is Back
[edit]Hi there,
The disruptive IP editor who uses multiple accounts and vandalizes lots of road pages is back. They have been blocked for other things too and have had multiple temporary suspensions, but its really time to get rid of them as they always come back and do the same edits. Thanks! Stormy160 (talk) 11:19, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've noticed, too. Can you give me some IPs so I can calculate a range? Daniel Case (talk) 17:29, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- 2600:1702:6DDB:2000:5D22:C848:10C9:63B3
2600:1702:6DDB:2000:D844:A207:E97F:20D4
2600:1702:6DDB:2000:9864:F605:C2F4:7EDE - Here are three but I'm sure there's more Stormy160 (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- That should be enough to be covered by a /32, maybe. I'll see. Daniel Case (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, it's a /64. How long did we block them last time? Daniel Case (talk) 20:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Never mind, saw that it was I who had blocked for a month last time. So six months this time. Daniel Case (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! Stormy160 (talk) 22:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Never mind, saw that it was I who had blocked for a month last time. So six months this time. Daniel Case (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, it's a /64. How long did we block them last time? Daniel Case (talk) 20:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- That should be enough to be covered by a /32, maybe. I'll see. Daniel Case (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
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Hi, Daniel. I hope you don't mind me posting here directly, but this user has resumed the same disruptive edits post-block that got them blocked the first time and is mass-reverting all of Geraldo Perez's reverts of unsourced content. Amaury • 21:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like they've been blocked for a week ... Daniel Case (talk) 02:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
Question
[edit]Hi, please explain this comment. Actually I am perfectly aware of what the template says. Zerotalk 12:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK, I thought you might not have been because its name doesn't indicate anything about saying the associated page is ECPed. When you put that on a talk page in the future, make sure the associated article is ECPed somehow. Daniel Case (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- There are about 1800 articles where the talk page has an ARBPIA template but the article has no protection. This is not surprising, since, per WP:ARBPIA4, "the templates may be added to primary articles by any user" whereas of course only admins can protect. Until the recent PIA5 case, such articles were only protected if there was ongoing disruption. PIA5 ruled that ECP should be the default state for PIA articles regardless of disruption. Since PIA5, hundreds of such articles have been ECPed but there is a long way to go. I can't apply ECP because I'm involved in PIA, but I can add templates. Zerotalk 02:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, well, eventually, as happened, people will notice that the articles to whose talk pages those templates have been added have not actually received the protection claimed. I've noticed many people at least making requests at RFPP after editing the talk pages. Daniel Case (talk) 03:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- There are about 1800 articles where the talk page has an ARBPIA template but the article has no protection. This is not surprising, since, per WP:ARBPIA4, "the templates may be added to primary articles by any user" whereas of course only admins can protect. Until the recent PIA5 case, such articles were only protected if there was ongoing disruption. PIA5 ruled that ECP should be the default state for PIA articles regardless of disruption. Since PIA5, hundreds of such articles have been ECPed but there is a long way to go. I can't apply ECP because I'm involved in PIA, but I can add templates. Zerotalk 02:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi Daniel Case, thanks for unprotecting the Maldives article per this discussion I made that other day. Here we have another article that was supposed to be semi-protected temporary, but was just never set to expire. You intended the protection to last for only three days, but the protection log shows there was no expiration set. A request for unprotecting this article was also declined on November last year. I'm still fine if the protection is still necessary for this article, as it was protected under WP:CT/EE. BriDash9000 (talk) 15:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I might be willing to reconsider it a year after it was set. Daniel Case (talk) 17:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
List of gurdwaras in North America
[edit]Requesting CTOPS (India/Pakistan-related) protection for List of gurdwaras in North America due to persistent, ongoing addition of unsourced material. Thank you. - Ram1751 (talk) 19:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
IP range you pblocked
[edit]Hi, could you upgrade the pblock you placed on Special:Contributions/2001:EE0:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 to cover the rest of mainspace too? They've been going around disruptively editing various typhoon and hurricane-related articles over the past week, e.g. this string of edits changing hurricanes to typhoons I reverted earlier today, adding/removing false entries to List of retired Pacific typhoon names, adding fake storms to this year's typhoon season, introducing false intensities on historical typhoons. I see the range has also been making edits to election- and airline-related articles, several of which have also been reverted. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 15:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have made it sitewide. Daniel Case (talk) 18:49, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 22:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Semi protect page
[edit]Hi, could you please make the page Thudarum semi-protected, as misleading and unnecessary edits are increasing. Thank You SRAppu 💬 18:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Done Semi-protected for 2 weeks. Daniel Case (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Protection of page
[edit]Hi Daniel, it seems that the page Kurdistan Region–Palestine relations is getting quite a bit of vandalism (as are any pages relating to Israel-Palestine tbh). It would be helpful to protect it similar to Israel–Kurdistan Region relations. Thanks! TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 23:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Indef ECP and 1RR under ARBPIA. Daniel Case (talk) 02:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
Grownarwahl continued edit warring
[edit]- Grownarwahl (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Pig Goat Banana Cricket (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello, and apologies for the message.
As explained more thoroughly at WP:ANI#Slow-motion/quiet edit warring at Pig Goat Banana Cricket, the editor is continuing their edit warring (seemingly slow-motion/quiet), even after the recent 3RR noticeboard and subsequent 24 hour block from yourself. I haven't reverted their latest edit on the article as a precaution, but it's the same edit warring/unsourced information, so likely should be reverted once again. Not sure what more can be done here, as it seems like this will just continue on until further action is taken. Apologies again, and hope you can possibly assist with this. Magitroopa (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have blocked them for 48 hours this time. Daniel Case (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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Edit warring concerns
[edit]Hi Daniel. Super Dromaeosaurus has been edit warring on Cham Albanians in the last 2 days against 4 editors. They keep removing or tagging well-sourced content as "outdated" or "unreliable", but they have not provided any newer RS to back their claims. On the tp they just keep posting personal opinions instead of RS-backed statements. After I formally warned them about edit warring, they responded with a "shush" [36] and continued edit warring. An admin is needed to take a look and put an end to the disruption. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, they just admitted they plan to keep reverting [37]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:53, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- As they were alerted to CTOPS in this area almost a year ago, I have blocked them from the page for a week.
- I will also be putting a CTOPS notice on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I raised concerns on the reliability of the RS, I had quit removing the content by tagging it and I had also quit restoring the tagging after a fourth user intervened. I'd appreciate advice on what would have been the most appropriate response to the removal of tagging regarding my concerns with the article (which is effectively a lack of acknowledgement of said concerns). I will not formally contest the block but I consider it an overblown action. I would have halted editing the article had I received a warning not coming from Ktrimi991 who frequently employs personal attacks. Super Ψ Dro 19:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- First, as noted, you were alerted to CTOPS almost a year ago.
- Second, once someone says they're going to keep reverting until they get their way, most of us consider the time when a warning might have an effect to be over.
- You have edited for quite some time. You can't claim you're not aware of how at odds it is with community values to make that ultimatum. Daniel Case (talk) 19:26, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I did not claim I will keep reverting until I get my way and very much less did I send an "ultimatum". I had scaled down my editing twice, and was the one who started the discussion at the talk page. Per WP:DETAG editors may remove tags when they
not see the purported problem with the article and does not see any detailed complaint on the talk page
. You have blocked me for a comment rejecting the unjustified removal of template tags rather than for a content dispute, because I did not claim I would remove again the content I had disputed. This is apart from any CT issue. - Now, if you'd be kind so as to provide requested advice from the editor you blocked. Rather than issuing an admittedly pointy (but no "ultimatum") comment, how should I have reacted to the removal of tags? Super Ψ Dro 19:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- "
If you are unable, the tagging will be restored until proper RS is provided.
" Please clarify for me how this would not be read by most rational people as a promise to keep reverting. - If the material were unsourced, you'd be more within your rights (although since BLP is not involved, such reversions are not unlimited under WP:3RRNO). But it's sourced, sourced to a source generally agreed to be considered reliable. You are the one who is questioning that source's reliability. I allow that you may have a point, but that point is only yours until and unless you find a reliable source raising the same question.
- See WP:QUO Daniel Case (talk) 20:14, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- As I stated, that comment did not refer to the removal of the content I disputed (or to "getting my way") but to the restoration of dispute tags. If we can recognize this in particular is beyond the dimension of content disputes, I argue I am justified to ask for dispute tags to be kept while the discussion, which I started, took place. WP:QUO, which you have cited, states the following:
do not revert away from the status quo ante bellum during a dispute discussion. Instead, add an appropriate tag indicating the text is disputed.
I did; this is the first time I scaled down. - I fail to see how has your intervention brought us anyhow closer to a resolution. The users in question not only have removed the dispute tags but also reverted back any changes I did to the article (because they were "without any justification" [38], + the third user here denigrating my arguments as "personal opinions"). I also wish to continue arguing on the prematurity of your block. This other user in this thread has previously been unreasonably hostile to me numerous times [39] [40] [41] [42] [43]. Unsurprisingly I am not fond of them, and I admit I did not take the warning they issued seriously. I maintain again I would have halted editing earlier had I received a warning from a different user; the biggest proof is perhaps the fact that, as you put it, I "have edited for quite some time" without any blocks against me.
- If you have conceded that I "may have a point" regarding the content dispute, I ask you if it is possible to concede: that there is evidence I may have been more receptive of preventive input from you or anyone else; that I could have possibly argued my case had administrative action not taken place 19 minutes after my (unpinged, btw) "report"; and that I scaled down twice, something unacknowledged so far and opposite to the impression your block justification gives. I do not believe the handling of this case nor the provided justification was ideal from your part. Super Ψ Dro 12:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- There is no policy that gives you the right to tag content whenever you are opposed by multiple editors. WP:DETAG and WP:QUO that you cite above are not official policies or guidelines. Read the notes at the top of those 2 pages.
- WP:3RR, which is official policy, does not include reverts on tags among its exemptions. Ktrimi991 (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I did not violate WP:3RR. The multiple editors in question are usual editors of the topic area who !vote and support in discussions as a single common bloc. As you know, there are several editors who have raised the same concern [44] [45] [46]. In the disputed article was displayed clear WP:NINJA behaviour: after my edit stayed there for a year [47], I was reverted by four different editors in two days, two of which have not yet talked in the discussion I started (and a third, you, stopped participating), and one of them commented about my edits on an unrelated article [48] previously edited by one of the four [49].
- In any case I will not be responding to you here further because I am not talking to you. Super Ψ Dro 15:12, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
The multiple editors in question are usual editors of the topic area who !vote and support in discussions as a single common bloc
This is a baseless aspersion. I added a note to the population part of the infobox [50], Maleschreiber moved it to the footnotes part [51], and Nishjan removed it entirely [52]. I can cite many other cases where those editors disagree with me. I suggest to you to stop showing incivility like baseless accusations and referring to me as "the third user here". Focus on content, not editors. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:37, 1 June 2025 (UTC)- "
I did not violate WP:3RR
", No, you didn't, or I would have said that in the block message. But as noted at WP:EW, "it is absolutely possible to engage in edit warring without breaking the three-revert rule, or even coming close to doing so." Daniel Case (talk) 19:18, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- As I stated, that comment did not refer to the removal of the content I disputed (or to "getting my way") but to the restoration of dispute tags. If we can recognize this in particular is beyond the dimension of content disputes, I argue I am justified to ask for dispute tags to be kept while the discussion, which I started, took place. WP:QUO, which you have cited, states the following:
- "
- I did not claim I will keep reverting until I get my way and very much less did I send an "ultimatum". I had scaled down my editing twice, and was the one who started the discussion at the talk page. Per WP:DETAG editors may remove tags when they
- Daniel, thank you for your input, much appreciated. SD has been opposed by 4 editors; if they want, they can seek wider community attention as described at WP:DRN. Up to them. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:11, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I raised concerns on the reliability of the RS, I had quit removing the content by tagging it and I had also quit restoring the tagging after a fourth user intervened. I'd appreciate advice on what would have been the most appropriate response to the removal of tagging regarding my concerns with the article (which is effectively a lack of acknowledgement of said concerns). I will not formally contest the block but I consider it an overblown action. I would have halted editing the article had I received a warning not coming from Ktrimi991 who frequently employs personal attacks. Super Ψ Dro 19:21, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Haz page
[edit]I'm not particularly bothered by page protection on any page but I was a bit surprised to see it applied to Haz Al-Din as there hasn't been that much disruptive editing. There has been an edit conflict on the page recently but it's honestly been a bit low-key although the editor who requested the edit protection has been rather partisan in that conflict. Just thought you mght like the heads-up. I'll continue waiting for any of the parties to the edit conflict to reply to my question about a transcript for a podcast used as a source either way lol. Simonm223 (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I had previously told that editor that the problems they were bringing up were really better dealt with at AN/I. This request seemed to have focused more on the issues that would engender protection, and I tend to feel that the kind of high-volume reversion in the recent edit history would be enough to justify short protection. We'll see how this develops. Daniel Case (talk) 21:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I'm going to try and give this article some attention at the source level. I'm going on vacation soon though; I doubt I will be very hasty about it. Lol. So I am interested to see what happens next. Simonm223 (talk) 00:57, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Robert Nutting
[edit]I thank you for your efforts in processing RFPP requests but I don't think Robert Nutting warrants indefinite semi-protection. I know Pittsburgh sports fans aren't happy, believe me, I see it, but I think just protecting it until the end of the season would be fine. The vandalism isn't particularly high-speed and the only reason I sent it to RFPP was the IPs changing the nickname to "Boh." Thank you. CutlassCiera 01:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I looked over the history and this has been going on somewhat regularly for over a year. As a BLP it comes under contentious topics, and I felt that justified that level of protection and making it indefinite. Daniel Case (talk) 03:15, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
block expansion
[edit]This link says that the same IP who just vandalized James Brainard—who, based on that article's history, may be Dhcohen (talk · contribs)—was topic-blocked by you recently. Might you consider expanding that block based on this vandalism, and mmmmaybe seeing if its likely to be that named user, as well? Cheers, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I have added the article to the block on the /43, and blocked Dhcohen (who really seems to be a single-purpose account indefinitely. Daniel Case (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 02:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
The same editor has returned again, identically editing the same article as 151.0.251.14 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Was this at RPP the correct action to take? My apologies for returning here if it's inappropriate I do so. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:26, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Never mind! Seems it was! Again, sorry to bother you! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:33, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Hi Daniel Case, this is another article I found which was supposed to have been semi-protected temporarily, but was just never set to expire. The protection request shows that the protection was supposed to have expired in six months, but the protection log shows there was no expiration set. You even stated that this was supposed to have been a six-month protection in the arbitration enforcement log. BriDash9000 (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have lifted the protection as it would have expired ... Daniel Case (talk) 18:16, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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Buffalo ReUse
[edit]What on earth - how is a block for a closed AFD page and a deleted article relevant here? A sockpuppet was deleting chunks of this article today and replacing it with slanderous information, including this choice edit. I'm simply asking for semi-protection to keep those who aren't logged in from vandalizing the page. TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- A block made in the last couple of weeks on an article and AfD for said article on a closely related subject on whose behalf you were accused of editing. An article created in the last couple of days after that .
- That edit aside, most of the other IP edits have IMO a valid point: does an article about an organization need to have so much information about the life of the organization's founder, particularly when said founder may be angling for political office?
- Other editors, including Discospinster, an admin, have been making the same edits as you. They can do that without the COI baggage.
- I also find it strange that you complain about "slander" in the use of "Buttface" (a subjective and rather mild insult) yet regularly restored material to the article that others had taken out for exactly that reason (while it indeed had some negative information, it was indeed as far as I can tell properly sourced). Daniel Case (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Discospinster: only made two edits to the article - they were both reverts that restored passages I had written: 1 and 2. What are you even talking about? TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- That they restored what you had written. You do not have to be allowed to edit the article for those edits to be made. Daniel Case (talk) 21:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Discospinster: only made two edits to the article - they were both reverts that restored passages I had written: 1 and 2. What are you even talking about? TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- They also should be blocked from editing 2025 Buffalo mayoral election. They were perfectly fine alleging a vast unfounded conspiracy and take other editors to COIN with no actual evidence when Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Gainer was ongoing. They have since tried to turn 2025 Buffalo mayoral election#Democratic primary into a thinly veiled allegation of a conspiracy to fix the primary election since Gainer's article was deleted. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @GPL93: has been hounding me repeatedly, and I've kindly asked him to stop. I am once again asking you to stop. You are free to edit whatever articles you choose or bring up arguments on the appropriate talk page. @BottleOfChocolateMilk: trimmed that section down and is apparently fine with it being in the article, so again, I'm not sure why you keep following me around like this. TheNewMinistry (talk) 00:57, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- Have you ever thought that @BottleOfChocolateMilk: acted this way because you took him to admins over a simple AfD nomination? TheNewMinistry had no problem accusing me of wrongdoing then doubling down and accusing me of being a liar falsely. If you think I am the issue, you can go to WP:ANI but I will not stand for you treating editors like @BottleOfChocolateMilk: and myself as bad actors because we believe that a candidate that failed to meet the requirements in a city primary election fails notability standards. Best, GPL93 (talk)
- I guess I should chime in here: I left the allegations against Sean Ryan on the 2025 Buffalo mayoral election page because they are cited to reliable sources and they are being repeated by Ryan's opponents in the mayoral race. If multiple candidates and (anonymous) members of the party committee are alleging a conspiracy to benefit another candidate, that is worth mentioning, though we can't treat it as fact and we have to mention that Ryan denies the allegations. For the record, I did have to adjust TheNewMinistry's writing because it was pretty clearly biased against Ryan (and thereby in favor of Gainer). BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- You didn't just adjust my writing, though - you also deleted the source I was referring to, claiming it was an op-ed. That's fine, but the original source I linked reflected what I had written ("as reported"). You also removed the other passage I wrote about Zellner's conflict of interest as both Party Chair and Board of Elections Commissioner, which has been reported on for years. I felt that was necessary to better explain Scanlon's "conflict of interest" quote, as the reader doesn't really get the full picture without it. Perhaps that's better served on a page for Zellner, but I'm not sure he'd pass notability. TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- Erie County Democratic Committee was created to make the same weasel-worded accusations of rigging an election by TheNewMinistry. A wider block is necessary. GPL93 (talk) 06:28, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Added that page. Daniel Case (talk) 06:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Given the POV-pushing, I am going to draftify the article. If tone/POV concerns are stripped away and then submitted then there's a slight chance it could be accepted. Best, GPL93 (talk) 06:49, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- This has become a big discussion on WP:AN, Daniel Case and GPL93. Your perspective would be great to hear now that there is more information about these articles. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Given the POV-pushing, I am going to draftify the article. If tone/POV concerns are stripped away and then submitted then there's a slight chance it could be accepted. Best, GPL93 (talk) 06:49, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Added that page. Daniel Case (talk) 06:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- @GPL93: has been hounding me repeatedly, and I've kindly asked him to stop. I am once again asking you to stop. You are free to edit whatever articles you choose or bring up arguments on the appropriate talk page. @BottleOfChocolateMilk: trimmed that section down and is apparently fine with it being in the article, so again, I'm not sure why you keep following me around like this. TheNewMinistry (talk) 00:57, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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Semi-protection of First Saudi state
[edit]Saw this at RfPP – only one edit was by a non-autoconfirmed editor since 22 May, and it was a good typo fix [53]. Abo Yemen requested full protection due to apparent content disputes between experienced editors. I don't know if full protection is appropriate, but semi-protection won't have any effect here. Toadspike [Talk] 20:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, this has occurred to me since. I didn't see enough recent evidence of edit warring to IMO justify a full-protect yet. Especially since neither editor has availed themselves of the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 21:04, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear, I'm only arguing against semi-protection, not for full protection. If this really is an edit war between two people, there are more targeted solutions than page protection. Toadspike [Talk] 21:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Lassi
[edit]Wanted to bring your attention to recent edits to Lassi, which you protected as a India/Pakistan-related CTOP. An editor recently made WP:OR edits, which I reverted, and is now engaging in an edit war. I had placed a warning on their talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:M15s09 Thank you for your attention to this. -Ram1751 (talk) 02:46, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- They've responded. They have only made two edits to that page. As they're EC, I would have to full-protect the page, and I don't think the situation's ripe for it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw the response, but it basically tries to justify the WP:OR they've added. Guidance on how to proceed? Thanks. - Ram1751 (talk) 05:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I agree that they seem pretty dug in. But that's not so much a case of OR; what they've chosen to ignore is WP:CITE. If it is "basic common sense" then it should be easy to find a cite. And sometimes you do need to cite that the sky is blue.
- If you want me to jump in and say this, I will. Daniel Case (talk) 05:09, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Daniel - yes, if you could do that, that would be great. - Ram1751 (talk) 16:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- OK, it might be a while till I can today (US Eastern time, that is). Daniel Case (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds good. - Ram1751 (talk) 01:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- OK, it might be a while till I can today (US Eastern time, that is). Daniel Case (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Daniel - yes, if you could do that, that would be great. - Ram1751 (talk) 16:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw the response, but it basically tries to justify the WP:OR they've added. Guidance on how to proceed? Thanks. - Ram1751 (talk) 05:03, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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I'm Back (for now or for good, we shall see)
[edit]Hey there. I'm back after a 6-months break.
Seeing the stuff happening from the sidelines, I decided to step in and file the overdue ArbCom case myself - Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Transgender health care misinformation on Wikipedia.
Can you please restore my advanced permissions again ([log]) (extended confirmed user, page mover and pending changes reviewer) so I can move freely and resume what I used to do prior to my wikibreak? :)
Thanks in advance, Raladic Raladic (talk) 00:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Done I will be following this. Daniel Case (talk) 01:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks.
- Yes, I'm curious myself where it will lead. ArbCom will not have it easy on this one.
- Given that the area appears to only have heated up since I stepped back 6 months ago and as I said in my retirement message on my user page - I'd only come back when someone pings me when there's an ArbCom case to curtail the anti-trans misinformation that many users and I have tried to stop, and after I glanced the mudslinging at AE happening right now, I figured with my refreshed set of eyes, I'd just push the rock down the hill myself and submit the case myself (especially since in one of the AE cases, some other people starting raising their voices for this to go to ArbCom as well). I don't see ArbCom declining the case given everything that's been playing out in this space over the last months/years.
- What the outcome and remedies will be, we shall see, it's not simple or cut and dry. Even if I wish it was and of course since we're all humans and have our own internal values system, I of course have an opinion and have phrased part of the case as such, we shall see.
- No matter how ArbCom will decide to take it up, it will be interesting as I can see that it could have quite a lot of significance for the platform as a litmus test of the current day and age around misinformation and the abuse of online information platforms like Wikipedia to be used as vehicles for such. Probably also has a fair chance that media gets a wind of it I imagine.
- In any case, I'm back for now to help the case along and maybe get back into the grove of more editing as well.
- And as always, thanks for always having been a nice person to help me out with various administrative things when I was hunting down vandalism and such :)
- I did consider whether I should list you as a party, given that you are one of the admins that do help with revdel of transphobic misgendering/deadnaming cases, as you have done several time upon requests from me, but beyond that, I believe you haven't been too deep in the area, so I figured, I'd leave it up to you if you'd like to decide to just make a non-party statement if you're so inclined once the case is open to help explain the administrative cost that queer/transphobia has on Wikipedia. Raladic (talk) 01:29, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- You are correct. The issue Sideswipe9th and I had with wanting the OK to indef-ECP any pages where regular and deliberate misgendering of anyone, trans or not (yes, I actually did this for the page on a cis Wyoming state senator whose page was getting misgendered after he did that to a witness at hearing) was occurring was approved. That I knew about. I looked at your list of evidence and it goes into a lot of places I haven't had to. Daniel Case (talk) 01:35, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Block of 114.10.134.0/23
[edit]Your block only blocked account creation. Did you also mean to pblock them from Suicide in South Korea? I'll add that if I don't hear from you soon. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:48, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Fixed Thanks for catching that! Daniel Case (talk) 01:56, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome. What caught my eye was the block log, that included
blocked 114.10.134.0/23 talk from specified non-editing actions with an expiration time of 6 months
. (emphasis mine) — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:58, 15 June 2025 (UTC)- I had gotten distracted getting the block reason in (really, I appreciate the improvements to the block page but if someone else doesn't go to Phabricator over the fact that every time you click on that drop-down menu's scroll bars it just up and closes, I will). Daniel Case (talk) 02:02, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oh my. Yeah, that is not good. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:06, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- I had gotten distracted getting the block reason in (really, I appreciate the improvements to the block page but if someone else doesn't go to Phabricator over the fact that every time you click on that drop-down menu's scroll bars it just up and closes, I will). Daniel Case (talk) 02:02, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome. What caught my eye was the block log, that included
Protection of page
[edit]Hi Daniel, sorry to bother you, I would like to request protection for the page Trial of Benjamin Netanyahu as it is getting some vandalism recently. Thanks! TeddyRoosevelt1912 (talk) 06:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
Caucasus CTOP
[edit]yes please. that is all. -- asilvering (talk) 22:55, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- That, and a Maghreb one ...
- And British politics and personalities post-2016. And children's television and animation. And Philippines popular culture. Daniel Case (talk) 03:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Quick note on Talk:Iran–Israel proxy conflict
[edit]Thanks for your edits to Talk:Iran–Israel proxy conflict.
I thought I remembered you as an arbiter but I checked and I saw there was a different Daniel who is one. Thanks! Aasim (話す) 23:46, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Notice of noticeboard discussion
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. TheNewMinistry (talk) 14:21, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Little India
[edit]This CTOPS-protected (India/Pakistan-related) article has multiple issues, which I outlined here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Little_India#Multiple%20issues The inclusion of many of the entries in this article is based on a WP:OR criterion. I proposed a resolution at the beginning of the thread, but a couple of editors seem dug in on the WP:OR view. I would like to clean up this article to meet Wikipedia guidelines. Therefore, I request your input (preferably in the talk page thread) to move forward. Thank you! - Ram1751 (talk) 19:37, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'll get to this ... I am too tired after working at the polls all day (all hot day) to really be able to focus on it. Daniel Case (talk) 03:34, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, no rush! :) -Ram1751 (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case a gentle reminder... -Ram1751 (talk) 02:29, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, no rush! :) -Ram1751 (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Brooks
[edit]Thanks alot. It’s an actual trade and it’s going to happen and the sources are real Astrawiki3203 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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You are a hardworking administrator.
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Happy Adminship Anniversary!
[edit]![]() | Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Daniel Case! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2025 (UTC) | ![]() |
Kris_(Deltarune) has an RfC
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Kris_(Deltarune) has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Eldomtom2 (talk) 01:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Query on protection
[edit]You appropriately extended confirmed access protected the Palestine Action article. I have a question about whether it is possible to give additional protection to (a small) part of this article (even some advisory notice when editing it might help). The question is in more detail on the help desk at 11:10, 9 July 2025. As you applied the existing protection, perhaps you know the answer to my question? Thanks, SciberDoc (talk) 14:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- We cannot use the software (yet) to apply greater protection to individual sections. It would be possible, I think, to put the section in question under 0RR if that would help, though that would depend on editors on the section enforcing it and calling it to admin attention. Daniel Case (talk) 22:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Deletion revision needed
[edit]this is full of personal attack and verbal abuse towards other editor. Mehedi Abedin 20:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Done Also warned them. Daniel Case (talk) 21:05, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
I'm an idiot
[edit]I'm so sorry. If it's any consolation, it's happened to me as well.-- Ponyobons mots 23:18, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Like I said on your talk page ... Daniel Case (talk) 23:20, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
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Can I offer you a cookie for some mopping assistance?
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Hey there, guess what? Can I offer you a cookie for your continued help.
Could you please help mop up some RD2's here: [54] and [55].
There's also an open RfPP Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase#Peggie v NHS Fife if you'd like to help stop further disruptions.
Thanks as always and have a good day :) Raladic (talk) 14:46, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- All done, and the article's protection increased to indef ECP. Daniel Case (talk) 18:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Rejected RfPP
[edit]Regarding this [56], I'm a tad bemused at your response. I'd have thought that the disruption evident at the page history [57] over the past week or so would have been sufficient for temporary protection to be granted. This is an article about a 25-year-old film after all, it should be relatively stable.
Further, you declined to temporarily block the IP range involved by declaring the "user" to have been insufficiently warned, and issued a level 1 warning. What was the point of that? By my count, there have been eight different IPs on that range used to edit war on the article. It's seems unlikely that they'll return to using the IP address to which you've issued the warning. Barry Wom (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Since all the disruption came from that one range, I don't think protection is needed.
- And I may seem old-fashioned and stubborn about this, but I don't think it's right to block most vandals who haven't been warned in some way. People should be given adequate notice that what they're doing is wrong so they can stop on their own. Edit-summary warnings are not enough ... less newer users than most people realize are aware that history pages even exist. Yes, they may be on a /64, but if you look at most edit histories where disruptive /64s have been involved, they're usually allocated a far more limited amount of addresses than the full 512 and often the dynamic returns them to one they've already used.
- I must note that they haven't resumed editing today. Perhaps they got the message?
- (I do agree, though, that we should have better ways of warning users on dynamic IPs. I think I might have suggested that once at that no-longer annual Community thing on Meta). Daniel Case (talk) 19:45, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- So you didn't protect the page because the disruption came from a single editor, but didn't block said editor because every IP they used hadn't been sufficiently warned? You also appear to have glossed over the fact that this range had already been blocked earlier this year for two periods of a month each, which I also pointed out at the RfPP. Handily, another admin has now blocked the range again for three months, which is more in line with my expectations when I reported the matter. Barry Wom (talk) 09:24, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Barry, I reviewed what you wrote and I am sorry I missed that. I was not as thorough in reviewing the record as I try to be ... at the time I was pressed for time, and was only able to look at the last month or so of article history. It takes several pages to reach the last outburst of disruption, late last year.
- As a result of that more in-depth review I just did I have put the article on indefinite extended-confirmed protection ... none of the IP or AC edits I could see seem to have been constructive, and as you say this has been going on for a very long time. Daniel Case (talk) 18:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, Daniel. Barry Wom (talk) 10:19, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- So you didn't protect the page because the disruption came from a single editor, but didn't block said editor because every IP they used hadn't been sufficiently warned? You also appear to have glossed over the fact that this range had already been blocked earlier this year for two periods of a month each, which I also pointed out at the RfPP. Handily, another admin has now blocked the range again for three months, which is more in line with my expectations when I reported the matter. Barry Wom (talk) 09:24, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
The same vandal for the 678456th time
[edit]Hey Daniel, the same vandal that you have blocked for over 10 times, just returned to cause chaos again with a new IP address. This time it's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:587:A6A:B400:247A:2A99:C0E0:BA76 Panosgatto (talk) 14:41, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- /64 blocked two weeks. Daniel Case (talk) 21:47, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Panosgatto (talk) 10:29, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
"T:UAA" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect T:UAA has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 29 § T:UAA until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:34, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
Richard A. Baker
[edit]Hi Daniel, you have been helpful in the past in reviewing updates at both Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. With all the recent activity related to Saks Global, Richard A. Baker (businessman)'s intro and career sections are no longer current. I am hoping you can take a look at my proposed updates here:Talk:Richard_A._Baker_(businessman)#Update_Intro_and_Career_sections and implement the changes if they look good. Thanks in advance! Maddie for Saks (talk) 15:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel, Thanks for your thank you! I took that as a green light to make the edits directly. You are welcome to check my edits, and if you have any questions, please let me know. Regards, Maddie for Saks (talk) 13:31, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, as the notice at the top says, I may be busy at the moment. Daniel Case (talk) 13:35, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
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Extending a block
[edit]Daniel! Thanks for this block. Unfortunately, in the 25th hour, the problem editing resumed. Could you either extend the block or semi protect the page? — Nat Gertler (talk) 00:37, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked again for two weeks (I had actually originally intended to make the block a week as editors on /64s may find it too easy to evade, especially if they're at insTitutions). Daniel Case (talk) 03:21, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! — Nat Gertler (talk) 05:40, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Request to Kindly Remove Editing Block for Aryan valley Access
[edit]Dear sir , I hope you’re doing well. I’m writing to sincerely request the removal of the editing block placed on my account, which is currently preventing me from accessing and contributing to the Aryan valley page and the wikipedia library. I understand that the block was placed due to repeated issues in the past, and I take full responsibility for my actions. I truly regret any disruption they may have caused. At the same time, I want to highlight that I’ve also made a number of positive contributions, and my intention has always been to add value to the platform. I assure you that I’ve learned from these past mistakes and will be more mindful and responsible moving forward. I would be truly grateful if you could consider unblocking me so I can resume accessing the library and continue contributing in a constructive manner.For the time being, I wanna read books in through Wikipedia library. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Warm regards, Minaro123 (talk) 17:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Since that was imposed under CTOPS, as the block message suggests, I would feel more comfortable doing this (as I am not really intimately familiar with your history prior to that block), if this request were made at AE and there was a consensus for this. Daniel Case (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Boop
[edit]Mind mopping this? Thanks :) Raladic (talk) 20:42, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
Urgent Help
[edit]@Daniel Case RightFax (talk) 21:01, 3 August 2025 (UTC) Subject: Vandalism Report
Dear Sir,
I am writing to bring to your attention a concerning issue of vandalism on Wikipedia. A user name, HelloWorld8800, has been continuously vandalizing the page "Kolkata Derby" and "List of Kolkata Derby Matches". Despite efforts to revert the changes, the user continues to make malicious edits. The vandalism includes "removing factual information" or "adding false content". These actions compromise the integrity and accuracy of the page, which is detrimental to the platform's reliability. I have tried to engage with the user and revert the changes, but the behavior persists. As an administrator, I kindly request your assistance in addressing this issue. Your intervention would be greatly appreciated in preventing further vandalism and maintaining the quality of Wikipedia's content.
Details of the vandalism:
- Page: Kolkata Derby and List of Kolkata Derby Matches
- Vandalizing User: HelloWorld8800
- Relevant diffs: The correct stats 402 matches, 138 win for EB and 135 for MB, I think he's an EB supporter that's why he's changing the stats in favour of the team he supports.
Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. Your efforts in maintaining Wikipedia's integrity are invaluable.
Best regards,
RightFax. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RightFax (talk • contribs) 21:01, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- Taking a look at the pages, and the users talk page history, this seems to be a WP:CIR issue. The users seem to be edit warring over the match count. Rightfax has been warned by another user in the past. Helloworld seems to be a new account created last week, while RightFax's account is 6 months old. Also, remember to sign using 4 tildes. Putting your username in your message is not enough. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 23:16, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
I am writing to follow up on my previous report regarding the vandalism of the page "Kolkata Derby" by the user HelloWorld8800. Despite your earlier warning, this user has continued to engage in malicious editing, demonstrating a blatant disregard for Wikipedia's policies and community guidelines.
The ongoing vandalism includes "removing citations," "adding false information," or "inserting inappropriate content". These actions not only compromise the accuracy and reliability of the page but also undermine the efforts of good-faith contributors.
Given the user's persistent behavior, I respectfully request that you consider taking further action, such as blocking the user or imposing other sanctions as per Wikipedia's policies. This would help protect the integrity of the page and prevent further disruption.
(talk) 20:07, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Chatbot-written requests will not be entertained. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 20:17, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- It seems the page doesn't have a lot of reliable sources. Daniel semiprotected the article, but Extended Confirmed protection may be necessary. Make sure you put your 4 tildes at the end of your message. My best option right now is for you two to discuss the matter on the article's talk page, rather than continuing to revert to your previous version, NacreousPuma855 (talk) 20:18, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case @NacreousPuma855 Sir kindly please block this user name HelloWorld8800, I am trying very hard to solve the matter with him, still he's not stopping and continuously vandalizing the page. Please block him. If you take this step then it will help other users who seriously want to contribute for the community. Please take this step RightFax (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- @RightFax For someone who is "trying very hard to solve the matter", I don't see a lot of posts on article talk pages from you. —C.Fred (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Taking a look, it just seems to be more reverting. No discussion on the talk pages. The both of you are in the wrong. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 21:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- After continuous discussion, he's providing some unreliable sources and reverting the page. You should block this user right now HelloWorld8800 to make the community better for other users. RightFax (talk) 20:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately looking at the events, I think both of you are acting in the wrong. A page protection to Extended Confirmed, or a P-Block for both users might have to be given if they cannot stop continuously reverting. If you believe you’re still in the right, you can take this to WP:ANI at your own risk, as it looks like the conflict is too hard for Daniel to handle. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 21:03, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ok I will stop editing that page but block that user man god damn please because I will stop but he'll never reverting. RightFax (talk) 21:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- First, please don’t use inappropriate language. Second, I believe Fred mentioned that although they are edit warring, their edits weren’t bad faith. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 22:09, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Man what are you doing? Today another user is also complaining about this user name HelloWorld880 for vandalizing the page and you are not blocking him. Please block him as soon as possible, after having several conversations in the talk page he's not stopping and continuously vandalizing the page and reverting again and again. Do something Dear Admin. RightFax (talk) 15:26, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- I highly suggest you do not complain about an admin not taking action. Daniel is busy and he can’t respond to requests without clear evidence. Again, you may want to try to take this to another admin by going to WP:ANI. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 15:37, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you NP. @RightFax:, as noted at the top of this page I am traveling and have limited ability to respond to what I read here. Daniel Case (talk) 15:46, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Man what are you doing? Today another user is also complaining about this user name HelloWorld880 for vandalizing the page and you are not blocking him. Please block him as soon as possible, after having several conversations in the talk page he's not stopping and continuously vandalizing the page and reverting again and again. Do something Dear Admin. RightFax (talk) 15:26, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- First, please don’t use inappropriate language. Second, I believe Fred mentioned that although they are edit warring, their edits weren’t bad faith. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 22:09, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ok I will stop editing that page but block that user man god damn please because I will stop but he'll never reverting. RightFax (talk) 21:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately looking at the events, I think both of you are acting in the wrong. A page protection to Extended Confirmed, or a P-Block for both users might have to be given if they cannot stop continuously reverting. If you believe you’re still in the right, you can take this to WP:ANI at your own risk, as it looks like the conflict is too hard for Daniel to handle. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 21:03, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- After continuous discussion, he's providing some unreliable sources and reverting the page. You should block this user right now HelloWorld8800 to make the community better for other users. RightFax (talk) 20:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case @NacreousPuma855 Sir kindly please block this user name HelloWorld8800, I am trying very hard to solve the matter with him, still he's not stopping and continuously vandalizing the page. Please block him. If you take this step then it will help other users who seriously want to contribute for the community. Please take this step RightFax (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
2001:2020:4357:AD5A:8DC0:8261:BBCD:8B97
[edit]Needs to lose TPA. Lynch44 13:25, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
Blocked user evading block
[edit]Thank you for helping out re: Ninjatō and User:2603:7080:1FF0:A330:0:0:0:0/64. Just FYI, the user is trying to evade the block with other IPs. See edit history for Ninjatō (again), Predator: Killer of Killers and Prey (2022 film). Danmakusaur (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have extended the block on the /64 another two eeeks and blocked the IP for a month. Daniel Case (talk) 11:16, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Danmakusaur (talk) 05:12, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Talia Lavin needs some protection again. Polygnotus (talk) 20:11, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again but it looks like they are confirmed and I don't wanna keep reverting. Gotta admit the word "braphog" was new to me. Polygnotus (talk) 20:45, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- They’ve been blocked. Let’s see how they take that …. 20:21, 9 August 2025 (UTC) Daniel Case (talk) 20:21, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Meep meep
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quick drive by request for mopping: [58]
Hope you have a Good Friday. Raladic (talk) 20:36, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Done i am actually almost all done with Friday right now, here. Daniel Case (talk) 20:45, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Reviewing 2008-09 page
[edit]Hi, if possible could you please review Draft:2008–09 Mohun Bagan FC season. Its been in the draft section for 3 weeks (~) now and I have to start with the 2007-08 season 😕 Thank you.m Aban05 (talk) 03:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I took a look, the article seems to be okay. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- So, is it possible for you to move the draft page to live page? Thank you. Aban05 (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I don’t have the rights to approve the AfD submission. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 04:47, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- So, is it possible for you to move the draft page to live page? Thank you. Aban05 (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
Little India
[edit]You had protected this page with CTOPS (India/Pakistan-related). An editor recently added unsourced material, which I reverted, and is now engaging in an edit war. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Little_India&curid=1544482&action=history This user has received several level 3 and 4 user warnings for adding unsourced/poorly sourced material in the past year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nzs9 Guidance on how to proceed? Thank you. Ram1751 (talk) 02:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have reverted them again and given them a level 3 unsourced warning, based on their history of warning and combative mentality, although they have made productive edits.
- As for your question about this article months ago, I do think you got consensus but … since BrownHairedGirl has been banned since then, it might be a good idea to get someone else involved, maybe via WT:INDIA, and revisit the discussion. Daniel Case (talk) 15:31, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is no edit war at all I don't care or have any affiliation or bias with any relation to India or Pakistan. For you to accuse me of this is ridiculous. The area I posted is a suburb deemed as Little India in West Melbourne. Nzs9 (talk) 06:00, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- Then add a source. Your edit history show you have done this before when asked to. Daniel Case (talk) 08:04, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- Addendum: The second graf I wrote above had nothing to do with you; it was meant for Ram in reference to an earlier discussion we had.
- I am even less impressed with you now than I was a couple of days ago. Daniel Case (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is no edit war at all I don't care or have any affiliation or bias with any relation to India or Pakistan. For you to accuse me of this is ridiculous. The area I posted is a suburb deemed as Little India in West Melbourne. Nzs9 (talk) 06:00, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Resumed block evasion?
[edit]To sum it up, essentially, you had blocked 2603:7080:8C00:B396:0:0:0:0/64 as block evasion of 173.243.160.48, with both blocks expiring on August 2 of this current month.
That time has obviously come, and both blocks concluded, but the range 173.243.160.0/24 was given a 3 year block in September 2024. Now that /64 range is no longer blocked, and has even edited, seemingly continuing the slow edit warring of Grownarwahl on Pig Goat Banana Cricket (Grownarwahl may need a block as well, as they are continuing their slow edit warring previously discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1188#Slow-motion/quiet edit warring at Pig Goat Banana Cricket). Would that range need to be blocked once more for block evasion? Thanks. Magitroopa (talk) 03:17, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- I blocked the /64 for three years this time, and Grownnarwhal for 72 hours (I’m not sure a partial block from the article would make much of an impact, unless it was very long-term or indef, as they edit it only infrequently). Daniel Case (talk) 06:24, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
DYK for Suicide by electrocution
[edit]On 14 August 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Suicide by electrocution, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that suicide by electrocution, while usually very rare, was one of the most common suicide methods in Nazi concentration camps due to the surrounding high-voltage electric fences? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Suicide by electrocution. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Suicide by electrocution), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
Barfi
[edit]An editor has been engaging in an edit war: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barfi&action=history Their edits appear to promote a India/Hindu POV. I left a message on their talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%80#August_2025 They are also exhibiting a combative mentality. Requesting CTOPS (India/Pakistan-related) protection for this page and additional guidance. Thank you! - Ram1751 (talk) 03:26, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at the issue, seems to be a problem with the type of language and the word origin/meaning. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 04:16, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have semi-protected it indefinitely this time (the previous one-year protection expired in April) and logged it at CTOPS.
- (The food’s name is sort of unintentionally amusing from a North American perspective …. Daniel Case (talk) 11:08, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
August 2025
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- I see this has already been taken care of by the impeccable Dianaa Daniel Case (talk) 10:55, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Spill on aisle 5
[edit]How are you mopping skills [59] doing on a Tuesday?
Looks like it was the cookie aisle, so here's some cookies as a token of appreciation. :)
Thanks. Raladic (talk) 23:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nvm, looks like Primefac already got it :) Raladic (talk) 02:09, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Came across another spill if you got a moment [60] & [61].
- Thanks in advance :) Raladic (talk) 02:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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Please could you expand the scope of a range block
[edit]You recently applied or modified a range block to 2409:4000:0:0:0:0:0:0/22 blocking the pages Nim, Talk:Nim, Jainism in Bengal, Bengali mythology, Haryana Police, Sivakarthikeyan and Konkani language with an expiration time of 20:33, 21 February 2026.[62] The same IP range is also making unhelpful edits with respect of:
- Talk:Aurangabad [63][64]
- Aurangabad district, Maharashtra [65][66][67]
- Aurangabad (disambiguation) [68][69]
Is it possible to extend the block to any article with Aurangabad in the name please.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:02, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- I wish it were. We can get up to ten pages in a range before we have to go sitewide or articlespace. And that range is a lot of addresses to block.
- When I am finally back from Africa in a couple of days, let’s see if we can work on a smaller range affecting just this user. Right now I am working from an iPad and using the range calculator tool for IPv6 addresses is rather difficult. Daniel Case (talk) 17:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. He/she has also attacked Independence Day (Pakistan)[70] -- Toddy1 (talk) 09:15, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
Bus fleet vandal
[edit]Hi Daniel, hope you're enjoying Nairobi. I see you also warned 2600:4040:90BD:D300:B80D:14EF:A763:FAB5 for disruptive editing. I'll also send this to AIV, but if you happen to get to it first, I think a block of 2600:4040:90BD:D300:0:0:0:0/64 is warranted. They continue to ignore all warnings and add unsourced tables of bus fleets. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:21, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I’m actually in Brussels Airport right now … last stop on the way home.
- I’ll see what I can do re that range right now …. Daniel Case (talk) 07:58, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Izno blocked them for a month. Daniel Case (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like it. Thanks anyway! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:05, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Izno blocked them for a month. Daniel Case (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
Can I request your eyes for a moment
[edit]I pinged you over at the draft for a discussion on fixing up RVDEADNAME, but just in case you have too many pings, asking you here if you could pop over there when you have a moment. Thanks in advance. :) Raladic (talk) 23:09, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'll do what I can; it's Labor Day weekend and I have family to attend to ... Daniel Case (talk) 01:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ah there's no urgency, enjoy your long weekend with your family and maybe you can take a look sometime over the next week :) Raladic (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
A request
[edit]As per a review of my unblock request here, User:Wikiislamtime has been confirmed to not be my sockpuppet. However he is still blocked. I plan to quit editing wikipedia soon, so hopped that you could free this editor from his dungeon which he was accidentally placed in by User:Skitash. It was all a mistake and he didn't do anything wrong. KashanAbbas (talk) 15:39, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Done Daniel Case (talk) 15:14, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you sir. You saved a random innocent man or boy. KashanAbbas (talk) 14:32, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Persistent edit-warring without any reason or explanation
[edit]Hello Daniel. There's a problem with the user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Clicklander%7CClicklander who reverts the edits on Greece men's national basketball team with no reason whatsoever. Although the edits are clearly justified and referenced, he keeps reverting them, stating that they are "not-referenced". Despite the fact that I explained to him every detail, he was warned on both the history page of the article and his personal talk page, but he just ignored me and kept being stubborn and reverting the edits again and again. Panosgatto (talk) 06:16, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
- This pattern of editing sounds familiar ... I will attend to it a little later; I don't have time right now. Daniel Case (talk) 15:14, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
- Regrettably I have had to block you both for a week. Not only have you continued edit warring during your talk page discussion, to a point way in excess of 3RR, the edits you are warring over are not covered by the very limited exceptions to that rule. Daniel Case (talk) 18:31, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
Romana Didulo
[edit]I've added semi-protection, since there has been a flood of attempts to edit the article that are more than PC can reasonably deal with. Acroterion (talk) 00:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fine (I still can't help seeing "Romana Dildo" when I see her name
) Daniel Case (talk) 01:21, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
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Assistance request
[edit]Could I get assistance with housekeeping issues at Talk:Ron Sexsmith? An editor with editorial disagreement made a personal attack edit summary at Special:Diff/1309709252 and I've asked them to stop but they're not acknowledging it and replied back another another snarky/personal attack edit summary in Special:Diff/1309713038. It is difficult to collaborate with this kind of behaviors. And if you could comment if one of us may be misunderstanding how the guidelines are interpreted in the way due/undue is handled.
Thank you Graywalls (talk) 16:20, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Oh God. I have a history with this editor ... so let me take some deep breaths before I decide what exactly to do. Once again, I think this diff is once again particularly ironic. Daniel Case (talk) 17:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Graywalls: OK. I did it in the mildest way possible. Look what it got me. Daniel Case (talk) 02:54, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Help please
[edit]Hi, I need some advice on how to proceed because the IP continues to make edits on Saving Private Ryan under different addresses and continues to insert issues such as double use of "soldiers" in a sentence here "The men travel to a rallying point of 101st Airborne soldiers, where they find scores of wounded and displaced soldiers." Yet I feel I am unable to do anything because the only response is to restore it to how it was. Can you advise please. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:21, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- The IP also appears to have followed me to a separate article where they have also made a bad faith/personal attack on me at a separate page - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABatman_Returns&diff=1310084577&oldid=1310072479 and I'm not sure who/how to report it. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:56, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I just warned them about the last one. While I think that some of their critiques of the prose you restored in the Saving Private Ryan have merit (i.e. , "learns" is better and clearer than "receives communication that"), this behavior is going beyond that. Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I see that the page has been protected for a couple of weeks, as well. Daniel Case (talk) 18:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- I just warned them about the last one. While I think that some of their critiques of the prose you restored in the Saving Private Ryan have merit (i.e. , "learns" is better and clearer than "receives communication that"), this behavior is going beyond that. Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Protection for 2030 FIFA World Cup
[edit]I see you are the one that has protected the 2026 FIFA World Cup article. Can the same protection, but for a short period of time, be afforded to the 2030 FIFA World Cup, due to persistent disruptive editing, especially with Porcupine Landak and other inanities? Or show me the link where I should go to make such a request. Thanks. Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:53, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- It looks like another admin blocked 182.253.48.216 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) for 31 hours. If they resume after it's over let me know, or report them to WP:AIV. If other IPs not on the same range, or newly registered accounts join in, you can either let me know or (better) file a report at WP:RFPP. Daniel Case (talk) 17:53, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
I think temporary semi-protection would be reasonable at this point, it's getting a bit silly. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 12:22, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, unless we block every Romanian IP from editing the article indefinitely.
- I think I can do this myself as it's not really a content dispute; while I could see how it could be content-related, the editor's prolonged refusal to discuss in any fashion has been prejudicial to that presumption, and their continued block evasion has strengthened that impression (They've made edits on a similar theme to other unrelated articles ... I wonder if this some LTA that I don't know about).
- But, if you think I should nevertheless ask at RFPP, I will. Daniel Case (talk) 18:41, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've made the request [71]. My hope is that protection of sufficient length will break their editing pattern and cause them to lose interest. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 22:15, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have suggested we get six months, and put a CTOPS tag on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 01:37, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I've made the request [71]. My hope is that protection of sufficient length will break their editing pattern and cause them to lose interest. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 22:15, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Highly transcluded template redirect
[edit]Hi Daniel. The redirect at Template:Infobox NFL biography is prominently transcluded on 30,000 articles (in particular, biographies) and still falls under WP:HRT as it applies to "template redirects
", as the transcluded redirect could be hijacked to vandalize those articles. MusikBot II would have automatically re-protected it after 7 days, though I have brought that forward by restoring the title's long-standing protection. (I doubt you will have any objection, but if you really think unprotecting it is a good idea, you will need to add the title to the exclusion list at User:MusikBot II/TemplateProtector/config to keep it unprotected for more than a week.) (CC: Sophisticatedevening who requested unprotection.) ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 09:41, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Peter Khazanov
[edit]Thanks for taking action on the Leah Harvey disruption. FYI you might want to take a look at the blocked user's filter log and the contributions of the user whose page he was attempting to edit. Funcrunch (talk) 20:14, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Those are interesting but ... the filter log entries are over two years old, so not so relevant today unless they start making the same edits, and as for the other account I do find that interesting and at some point we might want to open an SPI, but for now they're both blocked so that would not be considered a problem. Daniel Case (talk) 22:49, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
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This is excessive protection IMO, maybe PCP would be better since the Italian brainrot trend died out. ArbCom says "the content in question may be marked in the wiki source with an invisible comment" (so maybe put a comment at the "Controversial audios" section). —Matrix ping mewhen u reply (t? - c) 19:52, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think given the topic in question this should be discussed at AE. Daniel Case (talk) 19:53, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
You extended protected this article, however it has been a while since there was any vandalism. Maybe it's worth trying indef semi on this article. CherryBlossomGuy (talk) 21:11, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- When requests along these lines come up at WP:RFPP/D, our standard response is to point out that of course there hasn't been any vandalism since the page was ECP'ed. Just like you could say that since we put the combination lock on the room, nothing's been stolen from it. But would that mean no one wants to steal what's in there anymore? Hardly.
- So I would not unprotect, and neither would any other admin who reviews those requests, on those grounds alone.
- I would ask myself, even if the request did not, what gave rise to the vandalism or disruption. If it was something time-specific (like a now long-past sporting event or occurrence, or a news event), I'd be inclined to at least consider unprotecting. Or if the last vandalism/disruption had been some time before the protection (which is why we generally don't protect articles that haven't been vandalized/disrupted very recently). Or if the article had never been protected prior to the long-term protection.
- But in this case, none of those things are true. I protected the article shortly after a series of edits of which this was the last. Edits that followed on the expiration of the latest in a long series of protections.
- Yes, I know it's being argued that that Skibidi-toilet thing has died down somewhat in the last year. That doesn't mean it's completely gone. I remember years ago, long before you were on Wikipedia (maybe before you were born even?), there was an unending parade of people thinking it was cute to replace the entire text of Atlantic Records with "YOU SUCK!" in the biggest letters possible because, well, Weird Al did it in the video for "White & Nerdy" (See screen shot in article), because he'd had a recent contract dispute with them. So we had the article on semi-protection for the longest time.
- One time around 2010, several years later, I was reviewing unblock requests when I found one from someone who wondered why they had been blocked indefinitely for just making that one edit. I thought it was a little harsh, so I unblocked ... only to have the blocking admin come down on me all up in arms afterwards.
- That was how I learned about all this history. I had never heard of, much less heard, the Weird Al song. The blocking admin explained that only recently had they decided it was finally safe to lift the indefinite semi (ECP didn't exist then). The editor, too, had had no idea everybody else had been doing this, and we decided to let him go and as far as I know he never vandalized that article or any other again (He may not ever edited again, I don't know, but that's not relevant here).
- But it did lead to the page being long-term protected again. And as you can see from its protection log, that has continued until it, too, was put on indefinite ECP a couple of years ago.
- So, the lesson here is: Never underestimate the long-term appeal of vandalism fueled by Internet memes. Daniel Case (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- I understand what you are saying, but I would like to offer a counter argument. In your example of the Alantic Records article, anyone can view the music video and be inspired to vandalize. However, these Gen Alpha internet memes (especially Skibidi Toilet) are mostly viewed by people under the age of 10 who probably don't know how to become autoconfirmed on Wikipedia. If you look back at the vandals of the Ohio Article, all of their accounts are globally locked for "Long-Term Abuse" or "Vandalism-only account", suggesting that these people knew exactly what they were doing and they were deliberately vandalizing the article for attention on the internet. By raising the protection level to extended confirmed, you are giving these vandals the attention they want. It's a similar case with the Skibidi Toilet article, that article has a long vandalism and disruption history, but as of a few months ago the extended confirmed protection has expired and there hasn't been any vandalism since.
- Right now, I think its important to consider the innocent editors who can't edit the page because of the extended confirmed protection. These people could make significant contributions and make the article so much better. For all of the reasons listed above, please consider reducing the article's protection level to indef semi. If for whatever reason the vandalism persists, the vandalism can be easily reverted and the article can be easily protected again. CherryBlossomGuy (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- They can make edit requests on the talk page. That's not protected. And if they devote their editing attention to other, unprotected articles (there are, ahem, many), they'll attain EC status sooner than they realize.
- And unfortunately nothing we do can possibly stop those people who've been globally locked/indeffed from creating new accounts in some way that evades an account-creation block on the IP, if they're determined enough. We have a lot of LTA pages for this exact reason. Daniel Case (talk) 01:36, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Assistance request
[edit]Hello, I would like to ask you to temporarily protect my user talk page and hide all the revisions that were spammed there by the LTA. I would greatly appreciate your help with this. Thank you. —Pminh141 [ Talk ] 01:04, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have semi-protected for a year since your user page is already protected indefinitely. However, someone just saying they don't like you is not something that qualifies for RevDel. Daniel Case (talk) 03:36, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- I truly appreciate your help, even though there are many rules on Enwiki that I’m not fully familiar with. The reality is that these sockpuppet accounts are personally targeting me and several administrators/patrollers on viwiki, and they sometimes even make threats against my life and the lives of others. Perhaps this person is just some kid seeking attention and trying to stand out. However, this behavior is seriously bothering a lot of people, myself included, and I really don’t want to see those messages—so I’d like to ask if you could hide them. Once again, thank you so much. Wishing you a great day. —Pminh141 [ Talk ] 03:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- OK, I took another look at the criteria and decided that RD3 covers this. So it's done. Daniel Case (talk) 14:25, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- I truly appreciate your help, even though there are many rules on Enwiki that I’m not fully familiar with. The reality is that these sockpuppet accounts are personally targeting me and several administrators/patrollers on viwiki, and they sometimes even make threats against my life and the lives of others. Perhaps this person is just some kid seeking attention and trying to stand out. However, this behavior is seriously bothering a lot of people, myself included, and I really don’t want to see those messages—so I’d like to ask if you could hide them. Once again, thank you so much. Wishing you a great day. —Pminh141 [ Talk ] 03:56, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Range block
[edit]Hi Daniel! You recently edited the pblock for range 111.94.0.0/16 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)). The most recent IP in the range (this /32) recently edited Batam and Makassar in the same disruptive way, and has done so in the past with other IPs in the range. I'm writing to ask if you'd consider adding those pages to the list of pages blocked for the /16. Thank you :) --tony 15:02, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Done They must have upped the limit on how many pages there can be in a partial block ... it was already over 10 for this one, and I was looking at other possible solutions. Daniel Case (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Olib
[edit]Hello, I noticed you recently protected Olib so that only administrators can edit it. I am not involved in the edit war at all, but am instead in the process of expanding the article itself. I was about to add a bibliography and expand the History section, when my edits could no longer be posted. We also have an ongoing dialogue on the talk page to resolve the infobox picture issue. Thank you. Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 22:29, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- The protection will expire in three days ... we rarely full-protect for longer than that. And if the issue is resolved before then, I'd be happy to lift the protection early. Let me know. Daniel Case (talk) 01:54, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- How about replacing the pp with pp-extended? The only involved editor that has touched the page in the last month is not yet extended confirmed. Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 03:13, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Where the editors involved in the dispute have different access levels, and what they're differing over is a matter of editorial preference rather than clear-cut policy, we try to avoid protection that would bar one side from editing but not another, as seems it would be the case here. It looks like we're picking a winner. Daniel Case (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- They editor in question (the one that would be advantaged) has not edited the page since July, whereas I have about 50 kb of pending changes to the page right now. Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 04:48, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- No one edited the page during the entire month of July ... Daniel Case (talk) 04:52, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- You're right. It was June 29th! Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 05:19, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- No one edited the page during the entire month of July ... Daniel Case (talk) 04:52, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- They editor in question (the one that would be advantaged) has not edited the page since July, whereas I have about 50 kb of pending changes to the page right now. Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 04:48, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Where the editors involved in the dispute have different access levels, and what they're differing over is a matter of editorial preference rather than clear-cut policy, we try to avoid protection that would bar one side from editing but not another, as seems it would be the case here. It looks like we're picking a winner. Daniel Case (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- How about replacing the pp with pp-extended? The only involved editor that has touched the page in the last month is not yet extended confirmed. Ⰻⱁⰲⰰⱀⱏ (ⰳⰾ) 03:13, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi Daniel Case, just noticed that you placed the Gorilla article under a three-month semi-protection per this request. However, it seems that you forgot to set the semi-protection to expire. BriDash9000 (talk) 09:35, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Fixed Oops! Daniel Case (talk) 18:00, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Report
[edit]HI Daniel, could you please look at the recent activity by a new user "Truthreconciliation18" at NCCM and consider further sanctions? They are repeating the same MO of a previous user "Chichifat" (who you blocked from editing indefinitely because of similar WP:BATTLEGROUND violations) and they are not seemingly here to build a NPOV encyclopedia. I've given the user a warning on their Talk Page, but I don't think they are going to stop. Thank you. Ottawacan (talk) 00:29, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have just alerted them to contentious topics; we'll see what that does. It's a little tough here because most editors who demonstrate a battleground mentality usually make it evident with incivility or corresponding battleground language as well. This editor so far is keeping their cool. If it's that editor I blocked, they've at least learned something. Daniel Case (talk) 01:48, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
A UTRS appeal
[edit]UTRS appeal #106702 is from Leemsj2075, who was blocked five years ago by Future Perfect at Sunrise, and you removed talk page access. There's something close to a consensus to unblock, but you may wish to express an opinion. JBW (talk) 20:02, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that Human safari and not Human safari (terror campaign) is on this list, after a RM some time ago only the later is in it's scope—blindlynx 14:35, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Fixed Daniel Case (talk) 15:46, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Realistically this should be a bot task—blindlynx 22:42, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Potential slow edit warring
[edit]Hey Daniel, hope you've been well. Azoral, who was blocked for 3 months from editing Battle of Kosovo last year [73], has been reverting a lot since early September. If you take a look at the history of the article, AzorzaI has been reverting every now and then against multiple editors, but has never breached the 3RR per se. They have received an edit warring warning [74]. Does this reverting spree count as slow edit warring or is he within the rules? Also, the admin who closed the RfC today, apparently feels under attack by Azor [75], so this makes the reverting spree even more worrying tbh. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:13, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- This strikes me as a situation that, as ToBeFree said, needs to be discussed at AN/I or even, given that it's within a contentious topic area, AE. Daniel Case (talk) 20:21, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tbh ANI/I is usually useless when Balkan issues are concerned; the discussion turns into walls of text and admins tend to stay away and not get involved. At AE, how can slow edit warring be reported? Should all diffs be listed, or just a link to the article history? AzorzaI has also been involved in source misrepresentation, which is more suitable for AE, but IMO the apparently slow edit warring too needs to be looked at. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also, where did ToBeFree suggest an ANI/I report? Can you please provide me a link to that discussion as I am not able to find it? Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:47, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here, on his talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, I was not aware of that discussion. There TBF is suggesting an ANI/I report on both AzoraI and Botushali. The question which remains is how to report slow edit warring at AE. Should all diffs be listed, or just a link to the article history? Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here, on his talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Btw, a week ago a merging proposal was made there [76], and it seems that no one is going to be against. Wikipedia:Merging, which isn't an official policy page or guideline, says that anyone can do a merger. Based on that, the OP can go ahead and do the merger himself now? Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]Hi, when you protect a TemplateStyles page like Template:Arbitration enforcement/Archive navbox/styles.css, please remember to add /* {{pp-template|small=yes}} */
at the top, so the category is populated. Thanks, —Matrix ping mewhen u reply (t? - c) 20:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- OK, I have been unsure of doing that because a) some people don't and b) I have always assumed that the reason they don't is to avoid accidental transclusion of the notice. Daniel Case (talk) 20:19, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Categorization of AE protection actions needed (2 October 2025)
[edit]Hello Daniel Case,
I'm a bot that helps log arbitration enforcement (AE) protection actions on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. As a result of a September 2025 motion by the Arbitration Committee, administrators are no longer required to manually log AE protection actions. Instead, this bot is responsible for logging AE protections to the AE protection log.
This bot detected that you recently took the following page protection actions:
- 19:09, 2 October 2025 (UTC) (Tyler Wotherspoon)
- 20:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC) (Jake Allen (ice hockey))
- 20:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC) (David Reinbacher)
These action(s) seemed to be AE actions based on the edit summaries, but the bot wasn't able to tell which arbitration case they related to. If these were AE actions, please take a moment to log the appropriate topic code at the AE protection log. If they were not, feel free to remove the actions from the AE protection log.
Going forward, in order to help this bot categorize AE actions, please include a link to the contentious topic under which the action was taken in the protection edit summary (for example, [[WP:CT/BLP]]
or [[Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Biographies of Living Persons]]
).
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to the bot operator or to the arbitration clerks at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard.
Thank you! ClerkBot (talk) 21:23, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Daniel, just wanted to let you know that this was the first time the bot ran live as part of its BRFA trial (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ClerkBot), so I'm especially open to any changes that make this feel more useful/less annoying. The ultimate goal is to decrease the cognitive load on AE admins so you don't need to waste time logging the protections by hand in the future, so I certainly don't want this to be burdensome! Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 21:27, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Alright! I hadn't thought about this as a possible improvement to the process but it's certainly welcome ...
- Now, a couple of questions that occur to me on this ...
- Will/can the bot take care of the talk page banners, reverting it to just "{{contentious topics/talk notice}}" after a protection expires? I have usually just left those as they were to better give bad actors something to think about, but some people have said that would be more honest.
- What will happen with PIA protections, where we have to put in an editnotice about 1RR (And honestly, given the drastic measures required, I have always been more comfortable with making them manually as that makes you really think about whether it's necessary. With some well-meaning people nominating some articles really tangential to the current conflict, or even the conflict at all, like (hypothetically) Quilting in Israel, and then some RFPP admins more or less rubber-stamping those requests because of their sheer volume, I think the importance of careful consideration of them cannot be understated).
- Daniel Case (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- These are helpful questions! #1 seems quite doable. I'm less familiar with the whole template stack but perhaps @User:HouseBlaster and @SilverLocust could chime in on #2? KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 23:10, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- From time to time I check PIA protections for missing notices and add them (as can others), though it could potentially be done by a bot. While PIA notices "should" be added to affected pages, I don't think protecting admins have to place a PIA editnotice as they aren't personally imposing the 1RR, just the protection. If there's protection but no editnotice, the topic-wide 1RR just applies in the same way as if the page were unprotected — i.e., it depends on whether the editor was otherwise aware of the restriction and the reverts were related to the conflict.
- I'd personally recommend just not listing page protection in a talk notice, as page protections are self-demonstrating. That's why an editnotice isn't required when the only restriction imposed is protection.
- But if a talk notice is mislabeled as protected (e.g., after protection expires), it doesn't actually show the page as being protected and instead categorizes the page into Category:Wikipedia pages about a contentious topic mislabelled as protected. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 00:56, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Well, if 1RR is in effect, it seems only fair to give adequate notice at the point of editing.
- Other people have wondered about why the CTOPS notice is on the talk page, as most people won't go there first. I wasn't privy to that decision, so I can't speak to it, and I understand the criticism. But getting over to the talk page and seeing it might help an editor understand what's going on and why they would need to calm down.
- Of course, I wouldn't be opposed to a CTOPS editnotice that explains more specifically just why you must tread carefully on this page, and if applicable why you can't edit it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- These are helpful questions! #1 seems quite doable. I'm less familiar with the whole template stack but perhaps @User:HouseBlaster and @SilverLocust could chime in on #2? KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 23:10, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Will do! Thanks for the assist! Daniel Case (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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