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Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict

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Hello, while I was patrolling the NPP, I discovered that a user created this draft article. Draft:Battle of Fort Port Tewfik This draft article is about the Yom Kippur War and violates the ECR. Also, you warned the same user only 2 days ago. [1] Do you have any ideas about this topic because I don't know the exact Arab–Israeli topic bans? Kajmer05 (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I warned them and reverted some other ECR violations. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:57, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I think they've violated it again. This article explains important details about Israel. [2] Kajmer05 (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a violation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:20, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks. Kajmer05 (talk) 21:21, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, does this now count as a violation? They've added links related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, [3][4] as before. [5] Kajmer05 (talk) 12:06, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked for one week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SFR, just to keep you in the loop, they continued to repeat the behaviour by creating an entirely new article in the topic area after the block was lifted, so I have given an indefinate block. I don't see any chance of it getting lifted without a TBAN at minimum. CoconutOctopus talk 11:25, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up, and that's normally how I handled it too. I'm normally pretty open to an unblock once they make it clear that they understand why they were blocked and that they'll stay clear from the topic. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:48, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely, although given how many warnings they've already had, I'm not the most hopeful. CoconutOctopus talk 11:49, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Admin's Barnstar
Not for one thing in particular. Seems like several times recently I've seen someone making a good call to resolve or explain something and then thought "Oh, it's SFR again". — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:51, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. I'm sorry we didn't have a chance to talk after our brief introduction at WCNA, I was looking forward to chatting. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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The Barnstar of Diligence
For your general handling of recent chaos & drama, both in & out of contentious topics, all while still performing much needed maintenance few will probably notice. I hope you know that you & your efforts are appreciated. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 16:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, much appreciated. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:40, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit, a lot has been happening and it doesn't seem appropriate for me to just put a pixely jpeg of a barn ornament here to commemorate. Suffice it to say people see what happens and appreciate those who are helping. Andre🚐 17:09, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you kindly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment

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Wut? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've declined the ridiculous appeal, but in case there may in the future be a more reasonable appeal, can you let me know what the master account is (by email if necessary), or is that something which can't be revealed? JBW (talk) 22:24, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One of the Tishreen007 adjacent socks , maybe. Although, I may have just recognized their user page stuff from an IP I blocked around that time, which makes sense because I'm normally decent at noting masters when possible ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:34, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for that information. However, while you were posting it I was spending quite a bit of time searching and checking editing histories, at the end of which I'd found some other blocked accounts which appeared to be this person. JBW (talk) 22:42, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Had I blocked the accounts? If I recognize it from an IP I won't tag, and sometimes I just don't recall the name of the account. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:52, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, after digging a bit, looks like averagekurd or tishreen or one of the others that all look pretty similar. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(In the editing history of this page you'll see another comment, which I've retracted. It was there because I wrote my message before seeing your comment above, and did an inadequate job of editing it to take your comments into account. JBW (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2025 (UTC))[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Ach, so! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:25, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sockpuppet is back with that same edit that has been reverted over and over. [6] Basically removing a sourced content and replacing it with unsourced junk. ~2025-28056-21 (talk) 02:13, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:13, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Active vandalism and sockpuppetry

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Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I believe this needs attention as it's actively ongoing. Kpop777 appears to be engaging in some very obvious sockpuppetry. ~2025-34261-18, who is also ~2025-34148-16, made an edit request here to reinstate edits by Kpop777[7][8][9]. His obsession is using the derogatory term "Sub-saharan African" as well as slavery related information. The first edit of ~2025-34261-18 was inserting "Sub-saharan African", which was also Kpop777's very first edit to Wikipedia.[10]

Currently he's sockpuppeting on the talk page of Black Japanese so heavily that he's confusing uninvolved people. In addition to the two above he also is using ~2025-34434-85 and ~2025-34162-00 which are both him. Something he likes to do is manufacture consent by pretending to talk to himself. Notice this edit here where he mentions himself "Kpop777, you could change the sentence" to which he replies on Kpop777 with "We both agree to say "Sub-Saharan African" instead of just African."[11]

This is actively ongoing (see American folk music) and the backlog on the sockpuppet board is so long that it seems to be backed up for weeks or almost a month. EkkoJinxZaun (talk) 14:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded at the SPI. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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I've been on the recent WCNA safe space teams. Thanks you very very very much for doing the right things in advance in 2025 and speaking plainly in your Noticeboard comments. I'm too late to reply there; it's been archived. I appreciate also the extensive wise suggestions and commentary afterward by the people responding to you. (For future conferences, I'm inclined to fixate on (a) anyone who threatened violence or in-person trouble recently; (b) to pay attention to the probability that anyone attending has a weapon, which is partly a function of the jurisdiction the event is held in, and do bag checks if they might; (c) more extensively include ArbCom or stewards and also the local team in the security review. There is a limit to what we can do, but the local team should be able to make exclusion decisions. Would welcome your guidance.) Thank you very much for shining light to help our safety. -- econterms (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. Feel free to email if you have questions or want to discuss the security situation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:11, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Review a draft

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Hi @ScottishFinnishRadish:, I wrote a new draft, it is Ayumu Kasuga, and I hope that you can see and review it. And Thank you :) علي العالم (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I am not ScottishFinnishRadish but I would like to tell you that it is usually inappropriate to ask people to review your drafts. The Articles for Creation reviewers reviewer them, and if yours is not reviewed yet, then you should just wait. I looked over the draft and it seems to be rejected because you do not have citations for everything. Please make sure you have enough citation so everything is verifiable and neutral. For guidance on how to do this, here is a guide on building articles from sources User:Easternsaharareview this 00:22, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~2025-36796-88 and and ~2025-36482-25

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~2025-36796-88 and ~2025-36482-25 look to be socks of User:~2025-36670-48, who you recently banned for vandalism. See edit history at Adlington, Cheshire. Dave.Dunford (talk) 12:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:56, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I see they paid you a visit...tiresome. Dave.Dunford (talk) 23:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

Is this article PIA-restricted?

I didn’t see any indication of that on its talk page, but I wanted to check with you.

The reason I’m asking is that I want to start a name change discussion to Islamic Group in Lebanon (its name in Arabic is الجماعة الإسلامية في لبنان) IdanST (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My read is that yes, it's covered. A third of the article is about the Arab/Israel conflict, and there's an infobox on their military arm that lists Israel as an enemy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:54, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for the reply. IdanST (talk) 20:45, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hello, thanks for blocking the edit warriors from this article. Would you mind restoring the non vandalized version of this page? Somrthing extremely fishy seems to be going on, see the articles talk page as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#WP:SLEEPER,_WP:PGAME,_edit_warring_on_locked_topics that another user opened. A group of people seems to be communicating outside of wiki and coordinate their edits ~2025-37405-16 (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The version you want is not the "non-vandalized" version. BMWF (talk) 14:52, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No sir, actually you and your socks removing longstanding content is vandalism. See the articles talk page ~2025-37405-16 (talk) 14:56, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: History and geography request for comment

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About GPT drafting and resulting workflows

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Hi SFR,

On your userpage, you mention that you’ve been experimenting with LLM-assisted cowriting. This (and human-machine teamwork more generally) is a particular interest of mine (I’ve been cowriting stuff with GPT off and on since way before it was a household name), so I’m curious as how precisely you go about crafting the raw dredgings of our mutual stochastically feathered friend into the fairly well-written (although visibly unchaotic as to sourcing) products that you link. Could you expand on your process?

I’m particularly interested as to how much (if any) time and effort it saves compared to a traditional writing approach. I find it generally difficult to do large-scale content writing (e.g. taking a stub all the way to GA/FA) and a labor-saving method that allows me to concentrate on editing rather than writing paragraphs upon paragraphs from scratch would be right up my alley.

Looking forward to your reply, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 22:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RadioactiveBoulevardier, I'll start with the second question first. how much (if any) time and effort it saves compared to a traditional writing approach: not a whole lot, but probably a bit overall. Because I go through and verify each citation and clear up any hallucinations or synth issues it adds a fair amount of time to the entire process. I also still read the sources entirely so I have an idea of what's going on and what the weight should be. That lack of trust in LLMs adds significantly to the time.
As for the process, I start off by gathering sources myself. With Shit flow diagram and Malacca dilemma I used WP:TWL extensively, as well as some googling. In the case of shit flow diagram, I knew there was a wide body of academic work on it, and with Malacca dilemma, I assumed there was, and was trying to avoid think-tank pieces which are often of dubious reliability and uncertain bias. Not that all my sources are perfect, but at least I got to make a judgement call on them. Once I have my sources I create a project in ChatGPT and give it some baseline instructions about only using facts verified in sources, not combining info from multiple sources to make a statement and other Wikipedia basics like that. I then upload all of my sources. For some reason, it likes PDFs better than plaintext or html/urls and does a better job of internalizing the info to the model when they're provided.
Once I've uploaded my sources, I have it review all the sources and pick out what is covered in multiple sources and provide a list of facts and what sources/pages/quotes it used. That helps with determining due weight and provides a good starting point for an outline.
After that I use it to generate a basic outline, using the facts from multiple sources to inform the model on what should be covered.
At this point, we're passing the most beneficial and time saving use for the LLM. From here on everything requires double checking and referring to the sources which starts eating away at time savings. I have the LLM generate a section at a time with a non-formatted source that just uses the name of the pdf with the page number of a quote. I then go through and verify against the source and once I'm satisfied with a piece of sourced prose I format the ref so I know it's been checked. I build out the article one section at a time this way until I have everything more or less where I want it. I do some copyediting along with the verification. There have been a few hallucinations, normally where the text is correct but not supported by what was provided as a source. Normally you just tell it that the ref doesn't match up and it provides the correct citation information.
The more common problem is it synthesizes from multiple sources, e.g. The concept of SFDs was formally introduced at the second Fecal Sludge Management Conference (FSM2) held in Durban, South Africa in 2012, emphasizing the importance of developing analytical tools that could simultaneously address technical sanitation issues and the underlying policy, regulatory, institutional, and financial challenges visible here. It's a reasonable conclusion to draw from the multiple sources used, but it isn't stated in any of them. This type of synth is a recurrent issue because that's what the LLMs are designed to do. Checking for that and making adjustments is probably the most time consuming part. With shit flow diagram I also provided some PDFs of studies where SFDs were used for an examples section. Although they didn't have the weight of the info with coverage in multiple sources it was an editorial decision to show their use in a few cases. There is some discussion at Talk:Shit flow diagram#LLM hallucination check about possible hallucinations.
Once I've gotten all the prose verified I generate the lead, instructing the model to summarize the article as it stands, rather than looking at any of the uploaded sources. After that I wikify things, add some cats (which the model is fairly adept at providing, but keep an eye out for hallucinated categories) and do some general tidying. Each of the steps does involve some back and forth and guidance. You can see the end result of Malacca dilemma is different than the initial outline. There was a lot of duplication across sections, for instance, so I wrapped everything into fewer sections.
That's the general gist of it. You end up with something that reads like LLM text to those with the experience to notice it, but the articles are in reasonably good shape. As I've said elsewhere, this isn't to create a good article, rather a WP:Good enough article. If you have any other questions, just let me know. I really believe we need to get a handle on positive uses for LLMs before Wikipedia cuts off most of another generation of potential editors, like what happened with failing to make a somewhat passable mobile experience for new editors. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I appreciate the level of detail you provided. I definitely agree that there’s a lot of untapped recruitment potential out there being wasted by the lack of a clear and viable framework for responsible machine-assisted editing. Ideally such a framework would be published to project space and relatively visible via linking and infoboxes. In particular, I’m surprised at the relative disinterest in both the pitfalls and opportunities of LLMs from WMF.
Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 18:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Black Japanese

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Your RFC takes precedence over DRN. I have closed the DRN by encouraging the editors to take part in the RFC. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation Limited

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Regarding Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation Limited and powerlocus1, is there a reason you chose not to block or admonish the puppet master powerlocus? Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:29, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because I saw they were already blocked, didn't notice it wasn't indef and was partial. Rectified. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:51, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha! No worries at all. I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something... Cheers! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:53, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sound file vandal

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Thank you for blocking User:JXPLS10. He had replaced the sound file SpandauBalletTrue.ogg with a modernized version. Now he's done it again as User:JXPLS1. The first time I was able to revert it, but now I get a message that says:

The edit appears to have already been undone. You may have attempted to undo a page move, protection action or import action; these cannot be undone this way. Any autoconfirmed user can move the page back to its previous location, and any administrator can modify or remove protection.

Do you know how this can be addressed? Thanks! Danaphile (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked and fixed. I had an option on the file version table on that page to revert to a prior version. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:00, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal

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Hello, if ~2025-37405-16 is block evading can you reset their block when you get a chance? They've been using a large amount of TAs to be extremely disruptive and based on their behavior I fear that will continue when the current one expires. Thank you. Koriodan (talk) 17:34, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI I'm referring to this Block evasion tag on their edit.[12] Koriodan (talk) 08:37, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's a range block in place that addresses this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:56, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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(not) sock of LAyub12 but adding unsourced content

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You blocked User:LAyub12 and 2 socks a few days ago so can you also block User:MetalGod80's for making the same false and unsourced death edits? they don't seem to edit that many other pages. (also possibly WP:MEAT) 77qq 💬 contributions 01:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't look related to me. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the original block on LAyub12 was for unsourced content so either way MetalGod80's edits feel block-worthy. 77qq 💬 contributions 15:30, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Might need to protect both pages to prevent edit-warring. –LDM2003 talk to me! 15:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Admin's Barnstar
Just want to say I appreciate you so quickly jumping on that case I filed at WP:AIV. Appreciate you doing your admin thang. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:23, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I appreciate it. Glad, as always, to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Iskandar323

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You blocked Iskandar323 recently, and it looks like similar is happening again here. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 19:03, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please bring this to AE if you believe there has been a violation. I don't have the bandwidth to handle it right now. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:26, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]