User talk:Polygnotus

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Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

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Holy_Trinity_Lock_II "leading" in phrase "leading to/leading from” is not promotional Plutus 💬 mess Fortune favors the curious 05:39, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Plutus, Polygnotus is currently on a wikibreak; they've also requested to be blocked for a month and, so, can't respond. Salvio giuliano 06:20, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noted Plutus 💬 mess Fortune favors the curious 06:24, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting DuplicateReferences false-positive

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Genetic representation http://link.springer.com/10.1007/978-3-662-44874-8 Naruyoko (talk) 10:55, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

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ALM_Flight_980 "massive" in phrase "massive de-acceleration" is not promotional birdn4t0r (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-referencing: News and request for feedback

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Greetings from WMDE's Technical Wishes team. Today we've deployed sub-referencing to German Wikipedia, our first pilot wiki. A great milestone after so many years of work!

We'll continue to improve the feature based on community feedback and want to deploy to other pilot wikis in the upcoming months, once we've solved a couple of issues affecting many non-dewiki projects. You are invited to try sub-referencing on betawiki in the meantime.

We are currently thinking about how we could improve VisualEditor support for templates in sub-references if that's desired by the community. Read more about it on our talk page and share your feedback!

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Block

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Hi Polygnotus, I thought you were indef blocked and couldn't see the standard message. Got a fright, but everything is ok. See you in a month. scope_creepTalk 06:17, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep No worries, I just had to do some things in real life so I asked User:Salvio giuliano to block me for a bit so I could focus on 'em. Taking a break once in a while is good for my health. Polygnotus (talk) 18:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back and happy editing! Salvio giuliano 19:09, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A cat for you!

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This cat likes goats.

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Barnstar and Questions

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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For talk page stalking on User talk:Oshwah and helping me write an entire script! HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 17:09, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve a fat barnstar. Also, is there any way to, like, invoke the script, or is it automatically invoked? HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 17:09, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HwyNerd Mike Thanks! JavaScript runs when the page is loaded. https://claude.ai/ is an LLM that can help with JavaScript.
You should add
importScript('User:HwyNerd Mike/Polygnotus.js');
to
User:HwyNerd Mike/common.js
to actually load the file.
Note that the output (HwyNerd Mike has edited in last 3 days: true) will be put in the browser console. To open it press F12, then click Console.
If you can't find the browser console, you can change
console.log(`${username} has edited in last ${days} days: ${result}`);
to
alert(`${username} has edited in last ${days} days: ${result}`);
in User:HwyNerd Mike/Polygnotus.js. Polygnotus (talk) 19:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some more links that may be useful:
Polygnotus (talk) 01:46, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 01:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #702

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The Signpost: 20 October 2025

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And the "Global Resource Distribution Committee" emerges.
Two shortlisted WMF Board candidates removed from the ballot.
Who was bumped and why?
...while Musk prepares to launch "Grokipedia".
Serial-killer miniseries, deceased scientist, government shutdowns and Sandalwood hit "Kantara" crowd the tubes.
Don't get too excited before you read this.

Comparing thoughts on WMF issues

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Hello! I wanted to pick your brain about the Board election issue, specifically about how it compares to the censorship issue from a couple months ago where we disagreed. I have to conclude that I'm misunderstanding or missing something on my end. At that time, you were one of the main proponents of supporting the WMF's decision to accept the ruling and you said I am also not a lawyer, and I only have access to the publicly available information linked on this page. Which is why I find it difficult to judge if the WMF is doing the right thing. And since they have a legal department, and hire external lawyers, it seems reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt, right? and a few other statements to this effect. In my mind, the concerns of non-public information and institutional and legal expertise would also apply to the WMF's selection of Board members. But you're one of the main people standing against their removal from the ballot. I was wondering if you see this as applying to one and not the other on a fundamental level, or if it's a more practical matter like weighing pros and cons. For reference, your reaction to the Board issue is how I see both situations, except that I consider the censorship issue to be more existential in the long-term.

I was originally going to leave this as a comment under the Signpost article, but I worried it would cause drama or derail the conversation. I also get it if you don't want to drudge this up again. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:08, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thebiguglyalien: Hi!
In general I try to give everyone, including the WMF, the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes I fail, but that is because I am a flawed human and not a perfect alien like you. Most people, generally speaking, are trying to do the right thing. I hope.
I think these cases are quite different (although I of course happily accept that I am a hypocrite, which in my view is not a bad thing to be). Which of my many hypocritical actions and statements confused you?
To give an example of the differences: Lane asked the WMF to publicly post their reasoning, and the WMF asked Lane to not disclose what they had told Lane. Which puts Lane in an awkward position; how can Lane refuse?
In the case of that office action we don't want the WMF to openly discuss their legal strategy (which could harm them and us in the future). We also want them to keep a bunch of secrets for privacy reasons. Being transparent is cool, but loose lips sink ships.
In that Office action case I felt a lot of the more extreme criticism of the WMF was unfair and based upon faulty reasoning, incorrect assumptions and a lack of understanding how the real world works (even if you are right you don't always get your way on this planet).
But you're one of the main people standing against their removal from the ballot. I objected to the removal of one of them (Lane), because the grounds upon which that decision was made were incomprehensible and/or incorrect. On the other hand I also wrote that I would've accepted "we don't like him, we don't want to work with him" as a valid reason, so the bar is REALLY low and they failed to clear even that.
In the other case I find it weird that they hadn't discovered these alleged social media posts (if they exist) because that is a normal part of due diligence and they probably could've handled it better, but I don't think they did enough wrong to be really mad about it, you know? It is just sad that we live in a world where such things happen.
I don't think the board of trustees thing has much to do with legal, as far as I know. I think its more about reducing the attack surface; the far right is gonna far right anyway.
So in my mind these are 2 rather different situations with little in common. I strongly believe the WMF was attempting to do the right thing in both cases.
As an alien, you have observed humans for a long time. You know how much we suck.
Hope that helps, if you give more specific examples of contradictory statements I can try to explain how my alleged brain works. Polygnotus (talk) 22:41, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cool! I just wanted to get your thoughts since we agreed on one issue but not the other. I don't think it's hypocritical, more that I was wondering where the divergence was. It helps to see the more specific aspects you're considering, so thanks for taking the time to reply. I do get that legal strategy can't be disclosed (that was the part I was okay with at the time), and I also believe that most people see themselves as trying to do the right thing. And trust me, Martian society isn't much better... they're the ones who stranded me on Earth after all! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:50, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! Stranded! We both know you can leave any time you want. And you will once you've synthesized the tyridiam crystals, leaving chaos and destruction in your wake. Polygnotus (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the WMF does the right thing I will defend them, even if we don't get the result we want. If the WMF does something stupid I might criticize it.
I think that in both cases I criticized faulty reasoning, and I don't really care if the source is the WMF or the alleged community.
We desperately need the WMF to be on our team, and they don't really need us as much. Polygnotus (talk) 00:50, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editsummaries

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Information icon Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:56, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Zackmann08 I was actually thinking of making a script that autogenerates editsummaries based on context clues. E.g. if someone is on a talkpage or noticeboard they are usually adding or revising a comment, and a script could handle that automatically. Polygnotus (talk) 22:47, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I 100% support that! I have a number of scripts that autogenerate edit summaries when coming from a category page (see User:Zackmann08/category-links.js).
I have reverted a few of your edits because you didn't provide ANY indication of why content was removed... It looks like you are bulk removing Award sections... Is there a specific reason? To be clear, I'm not saying that material belongs on the page... Honestly I'm indifferent to that... But with I see a large red number in the edit history with zero explanation, it is a definite red flag. If you can link to some WP:MOS doc or something in your edit summary or at least say removing awards section that is purely WP:PROMO that would be very helpful. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:52, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Zackmann08 I used to have this canned editsummary script thing but I lost it. Have to look in to that again.
I assume you do that manually? Modern vandalfighting scripts use ORES so people don't really have to deal with that.
Yeah companies can pay to be part of an award program, and then they get an award. See for example https://bestinbizawards.com/entry-fees/ and https://wcwawards.com/registration/ and https://stevieawards.com/sales/entry-fees?from=mobile In the case of the Best in Biz thing its founded by someone with a background in "corporate communications". Its a win-win, the company pays a couple hundred dollar and then you can claim you are the exemplary best super person of the year, which might impress some people.
Gimme a sec I may be able to find it. Polygnotus (talk) 22:55, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again to be clear, I'm not objecting to WHAT you removed, but the way in which you are removing it. The process maters which is why edit summaries are so important. I use WP:JWB a LOT and do thousands of tiny edits that are clearly uncontroversial. But I still need to provide an edit summary.
I'm not going to go through your edit history and revert any more, but moving forward, PLEASE put an edit summary. Whether you are editing manually, using a tool like WP:AWB/WP:JWB or whatever the case may be. Please put a summary, especially when your edits are thousands of bytes. Even just saying copyvio as you did here is better than nothing. I see that and I assume you are removing WP:COPYVIO. If I see 8,000+ bytes removed from an article on my watchlist with ZERO edit summary, that is going to get reverted with a summary of unexplained content removal. I'm not alone in this camp (it's why {{uw-delete1}} through {{uw-delete4}} exist). And to be clear, I would do that if it was an Admin with 2 million edits to their name... This absolutely is not personal. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:07, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I need to find a way to conveniently automate that. I am not a big fan of editsummaries because they slow me down and I always forget, but this is a problem that is fixable with a script. I wish we could add editsummaries in retrospect, via the API. And yes that edit was a little too close for comfort. Polygnotus (talk) 23:09, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you considered using WP:JWB or WP:AWB?? If you are removing awards sections from multiple pages, you can just load a list of pages, enter a single edit summary and then edit away... It is MUCH faster.... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I considered making my own. So for example User:Polygnotus/Scripts/ListGenerator.js and User:Polygnotus/Scripts/ListGenerator2.js are me exploring in that direction. I am on Linux, and AWB has some weird WINE bugs. Someone should port that now that Micro$oft is dying. I should look into JWB, but I am not so sure it fits my workflow. Maybe I can tweak it a bit. In this case I started specifically with the Best in Biz awards, because its just a promotional tool, and then I discovered that those others are also promotional tools and not real awards. Capitalism is making me communist. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey I'm on a freaking iPad and JWB works really well. I highly encourage you to give it a try... And yes, capitalism SUCKS. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:25, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
AI editsummary
@Zackmann08 Perhaps User:Polygnotus/Scripts/AI Editsummary.js is a step in the right direction. Not a finished product ofcourse, just an experiment. Polygnotus (talk) 10:46, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Samsung Electronics discussed a wide-ranging deal to invest in [[Perplexity AI|Perplexity AI Inc.]] and put search technology from the artificial intelligence startup. The two companies are in talks to preload Perplexity’s app and assistant on upcoming Samsung devices and integrate the startup’s search features into the Samsung web browser.
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Samsung Electronics Co. is nearing a wide-ranging deal to invest in Perplexity AI Inc. and put search technology from the artificial intelligence startup at the forefront of the South Korean company’s devices. The two companies are in talks to preload Perplexity’s app and assistant on upcoming Samsung devices and integrate the startup’s search features into the Samsung web browser

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