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TFL notification for January 2025

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Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of pilosans – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for January 27, 2025. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

added Sennecaster
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CheckUser changes

added
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removed Ferret

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Promotion of List of kerivoulines

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of kerivoulines, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sea of Stars

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sea of Stars you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Video Game Barnstar
For keeping the new article announcements running. Thank you for your hard work! QuicoleJR (talk) 15:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sea of Stars

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The article Sea of Stars you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sea of Stars for comments about the article, and Talk:Sea of Stars/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 00:43, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"you can't just declare that it wasn't released for the PS2 because you don't like it..."

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But my edit desc is: "first non exclusive was beautiful katamari. That's X360. That was... 10 years ago? 15? This game is for the people".

You being the editor that created that page doesn't give you a privilege to undo works of others, even if you don't like the edit. the edit is valid. The game was developed for PS2 for 2 games, and it says so in their entry, but saying the entire series is for it is plain wrong. please read WP:OWN. 85.250.17.30 (talk) 09:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on talk page, you don't need to start the same discussion in two places. --PresN 12:53, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Crystal Dynamics video games 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Heyo, you may or may not remeber that we briefly talked about what to do with List of Crystal Dynamics video games some time back. While the main article is now a GA, the listicle remains in very poor shape. Since I currently do not (and likely won't soon) have the time for big rewriting projects, are you still interested in taking this one on? Regards, IceWelder [✉] 21:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@IceWelder: Probably not, to be honest. I made it more clear last year what games they had been a publisher for in the 90s, and I just replaced one odd ref, but I don't think I've ever played any of their games so I'm not that invested in the list. I'd be willing to swap it over from the current template structure to something more like List of Blizzard Entertainment games if you want, but I'm not interested at the moment in tracking down refs for exact release dates and collections/compilations releases which would be the next, lengthy step to bring it in line with that list. --PresN 01:41, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, I figured this would be the case. Thanks anyway! Perhaps I'll slog through it eventually. If the article is irreperable, though, I will retain a redirect as a last-resort option. IceWelder [✉] 17:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Mustard

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Hi PresN, I noticed that you work on many gaming-related articles, including Infinity Blade. I have created a draft about Donald Mustard, video game industry veteran and creative director behind the Infinity Blade trilogy. Since I work for AGBO, where Mustard is now a partner, I'm not publishing the article directly. Would you please review the draft in my userspace (User:SarahCaruso/Donald Mustard), editing as you see fit, and move it to mainspace? I'd appreciate it, thanks! SarahCaruso (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SarahCaruso: Hi, unfortunately I'm not comfortable moving the article to mainspace; the way it's written right now is like an advertisement for Mustard, with puffed up phrases like "led the game to its iconic status within pop culture". It manages simultaneously to not give details on what he actually did in the games he had a direct hand in, but also ascribe everything in Fortnite to him, and I can't trust the sources you used to back that up- you said "He also initiated the creation of live events in the game", which first of all is awful corporate-speak, but the source you used never says he did that, just that he was the CCO of Epic and that also Fortnite "became known for cultural crossovers". So, in order to feel comfortable moving it to mainspace, I'd have to rewrite half of it and check every source, and that's too much. Mustard is notable enough for an article, but I don't think this is the one. --PresN 13:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for your feedback, PresN. I've noted your points and will rethink the approach to the draft and rewrite accordingly, to the best of my ability. I hope you'll be willing to take another look once I'm finished.
To relate to some of your comments, I ran into two challenges when creating the draft and wonder if you may have any guidance: First, much of the details of Mustard's specific roles in the games can only be found in RS in interviews, which I intentionally avoided as I know it's frowned upon to reference too many non-independent sources. Would you suggest including some and noting in the text that it's a personal account (e.g., "According to Mustard...")? And second, many of the articles about Mustard tend to take a hagiographic tone, so I tried to walk a fine line of avoiding excessive praise while keeping as close as possible to what's expressed in the sources. I realize that I need to work harder to avoid the puffed up tone even if the RS frames him that way.
Regarding the sentence in the draft about his creation of live events, I want to point out that the Axios reference does cover this ("Mustard also led work on building dramatic, live events in Fortnite that all players would witness at the same time"). I feel it's important to note this because, while I accept your point about "corporate-speak," I put a lot of effort into checking that all the content passes verification, and I want to make sure you and others here recognize that I'm editing in good faith.
I'd appreciate any input and will be back in touch once I've updated the draft. Thanks again. SarahCaruso (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SarahCaruso: Alright, I felt bad about it because he really should have an article and you did a very good job of one overall, and I appreciate that you tried to tone it down (and that articles about him are pretty hagiographic, as you say), so I did some editing on it and moved it to mainspace. What you proposed about sourcing his specific roles to interviews and attributing it to him in the text is perfectly fine; I've watchlisted the article so if you have any proposals just put them on the talk page and I'll add them in without you having to wait around forever. --PresN 02:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, PresN! I appreciate your time and continued guidance. I will post any future suggestions at the article's talk page. SarahCaruso (talk) 01:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of emballonurids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of emballonurids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

Administrator changes

readded
removed Euryalus

CheckUser changes

removed

Oversighter changes

removed

Technical news

  • Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
  • A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145

Arbitration

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Promotion of List of nycterids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of nycterids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ángel (The King of Fighters)

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With help from KungFuman I managed to create an article for Ángel (The King of Fighters). Sadly, I am having problems with my monitor and the old one I am using can't let me upload nonfree images in Wikipedia for some reason. If possible, could you upload the infobox image for the character? This might be the best image for the character since it's a concept art made by the most famous SNK artist, Eisuke Ogura, and can easily be found in the wiki or an artbook. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Not clear on how a monitor could affect uploading non-free images? But done in any case. --PresN 19:56, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. You see, two weeks ago my monitor was nearly burning and I sent it to repair. When I found the older monitor, I found that for some reason Wikipedia doesn't allow me to upload images for some reason so I also asked in Discord a user to upload a picture of Ryu Hayabusa as I was trying to expand on his notability. Tintor2 (talk) 20:58, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2025 March newsletter

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The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.

Round 1 was very competitive compared with previous years; two contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 500 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:

The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2, which begins on 1 March. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2025).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

removed

Oversighter changes

removed AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
  • Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378

Miscellaneous

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Invitation to participate in research

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Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of a group of Wikipedians to better understand their experiences! We are also looking to interview some survey respondents in more detail, and you will be eligible to receive a thank-you gift for the completion of an interview. The outcomes of this research will shape future work designed to improve on-wiki experiences.

We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this survey, which shouldn’t take more than 2-3 minutes. You may view its privacy statement here. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns. Kind regards, Sam Walton (talk) 16:34, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doom 1993 budget

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Hi! :) Found this [1]

Not sure where to put this though. Timur9008 (talk) 11:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Timur9008: Found a spot, thanks! --PresN 12:40, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:FLR link has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Animal Well

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Animal Well you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Angela Russo-Otstot

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Hi PresN, would you mind taking a look at another draft I created, for screenwriter and producer Angela Russo-Otstot (User:SarahCaruso/Angela Russo-Otstot)? While I realize that your primary interest is video games, I appreciated your perspective in our discussion about Donald Mustard and thought it would be a good idea to run this draft by you as well. Thank you! SarahCaruso (talk) 19:26, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SarahCaruso: Sure, why not. Made some tweaks and moved to Angela Russo-Otstot. --PresN 01:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Turochamp

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This is a Good Article, but I do not see it in Wikipedia:Good articles/all. Am I missing something? I would be happy to add it to that list, if you can't or don't want to add it yourself. Do you think it would be better under Chess or under Engineering technology (or Software, or some other category)? Bruce leverett (talk) 01:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruce leverett: It's in Wikipedia:Good articles/all2. --PresN 01:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, don't know how I missed that. Bruce leverett (talk) 02:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 2025

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Hello, PresN. I noticed your recent contributions, especially your featured list articles. I invite you to help me on my quest to improve the coverage of Wii U-related articles. Currently, i have Wii U GamePad nominated for GA, but could you help get List of Wii U games for featured list? Thanks. TzarN64 (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TzarN64: I did some accessibility fixes on the table since I'm well-versed in them, but I'm not going to work on the list beyond that. It's going to be a massive amount of work to find sources for the release dates for ~800 games in 4 regions, and I'm not particularly interested in the Wii U. --PresN 02:05, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, nonetheless. Please give me your thoughts on the article and how it can be improved. Thanks. TzarN64 (talk) 02:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Animal Well

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The article Animal Well you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article needs changes or clarifications to meet the good article criteria. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Animal Well and Talk:Animal Well/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 00:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Animal Well

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The article Animal Well you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Animal Well for comments about the article, and Talk:Animal Well/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 01:23, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification for April 2025

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Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of emballonurids – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for April 21. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 02:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2025).

Administrator changes

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readded Dennis Brown
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Bureaucrat changes

added Barkeep49

CheckUser changes

added 0xDeadbeef

Oversighter changes

removed GB fan
readded Moneytrees

Miscellaneous

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Election box candidate no party no change

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Hello, I noticed that you changed a part of {{Election box candidate no party no change}} to include a missing rowscope. I'm not sure if this is what is causing a massive change in the template, but I've noticed that the election box now doesn't match with other types of election boxes, as it now has a dark grey and bolded part instead of having a lighter grey and non-bolded part with the rest of it. Compare these two:

Begin no party no change
Candidate Votes %
Firstname Lastname 00 00.00
Firstname Lastname 00 00.00
Total votes 00 00.00
Begin no change
Party Candidate Votes %
Independent Firstname Lastname 00 00.00
Independent Firstname Lastname 00 00.00
Total votes 00 00.00

I'm not sure if this was the intended result, but I personally don't think it should be different for these two. Especially since the "winning candidate" isn't differentiated anymore. reppoptalk 20:49, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reppop: Sorry about that, I don't think I realized how many variations of election boxes there were last night. I've added a bit more to ensure there's no visual change; I don't think that's ideal but it's way better than a mishmash of visual styles. --PresN 22:13, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It being centered is still bothering me since it still visually doesn't match with the other election box, I think you should also fix that to be flush left. reppoptalk 22:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reppop: Done. Really obnoxious that wikimedia applies extra styles to row headers, and also different ones depending on if it's the "first" cell in the row. --PresN 23:02, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you take a look at your other changes for the other election box templates? I noticed on this page that {{Election box candidate with party link no change}} is now centered, and doesn't match with the other templates above. reppoptalk 18:24, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Reppop: Fixed- the template pages had them as left-aligned, but the article didn't. Now forced left. --PresN 19:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of phyllostomids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of phyllostomids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomura's 20s

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Hi there. I was editing Laguna's draft here but I was wondering what article does this site have the article from Flaregamer has it in order to find the original reliable sources to see if we can I create and then nominate it due to the GA topic need. If possible, could you lend me a hand with Laguna? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: I'm not clear on what you're asking here. I'm also not sure that FFOnline or FlareGamer are RSs. I'm not available to work on Laguna's article, sorry. --PresN 16:07, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I understand Tintor2 (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of natalids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of natalids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification for May 2025

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Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that Nebula Award for Best Game Writing – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for May 5. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 00:33, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review request

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Hey PresN. I hope whatever you're doing is going great. Perhaps this message will be a little corny, but with your experience with FA indie games, I think it'd be great to send this to you.

For over a year now, by the time I had only garnered a couple hundred edits, I've been working on the article Rain World, an indie game very special to me, as it's now my favorite video game of all time. I've never played Outer Wilds and don't know much about it, but I can tell from the passionate introductory paragraph in your FAC for the game, it is likely I feel very similar feelings to Rain World.

Though I've been making gradual edits on the page for a while, around January 2025, I had read your FAC for Outer Wilds, then Super Meat Boy, Tunic, and Doom 1993. I think your work on those articles had inspired me, because I started reading up on FA articles and essays about the criteria. I hadn't edited Rain World in a while at that point, but I started having some ambitions. I have been reworking the article for over a month now. I've done my best to find the most sourcing I can and making great prose. I don't want to say the article is ready for FAC in case I manage to jinx myself (especially considering I have never nominated even a GA before), yet I have already asked a few other editors to look over it, and they haven't brought many objections so far.

Now, I'm starting to have hopes that this will appear on the main page one day as my first high-quality work on an article. I've opened up a peer review here for further comments and it has yet to receive feedback. Considering the absolutely baffling amounts of FA's and FAL's you've written, I think your advice would help me out a lot. Of course, if you don't want you, you don't have to review this.

Thanks for reading. Good luck with your future content. Tarlby (t) (c) 05:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tarlby: Thanks for the compliments! I'm glad my work inspired yours in some part. I'll take a look at the article/PR. --PresN 16:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting that I've seen your pr review and will respond later. Thank you! Tarlby (t) (c) 17:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2025 May newsletter

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The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:

In addition, we would like to recognize Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.

The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

World Figure Skating Championships

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Good Evening... I'm sorry to bother you. I noticed that you have promoted some articles to FL status tonight. Any chance World Figure Skating Championships will be among them? I just garnered what I believe to be a third support this morning. Thank you so much for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Still needs a source review, and you said you were going to get to the points that Toadspike raised, so it'll probably get promoted in the next pass through. --PresN 03:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the response. I address Toadspike's points. I have seen where other articles need a source review; what is involved in that? Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:34, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgsu98: Someone goes through and checks that the sources are reliable, that the citations are formatted correctly, and spotchecks a few to make sure that they back up what the list is citing them for. --PresN 11:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds simple enough. I will try to help out with some of those this evening after work. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2025).

Administrator changes

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readded NaomiAmethyst (overlooked last month)
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May 2025

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Information icon Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia, and articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to Outer Wilds. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, please use your sandbox instead, where you are given a certain degree of freedom in what you write. Nice Easter egg. MimirIsSmart (talk) 09:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may not realize this, having only been here for a year, but it is considered pretty rude to slap template messages on established editors. --PresN 11:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for this, but I intended this to be humorous and something to be laugh about. MimirIsSmart (talk) 11:55, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extracting parts of free images

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Hi there. I've been trying to tone down nonfree images of some articles and noticed this free image of Kyo Kusanagi (the character's design has changed several times since his introduction) used to promote a game here. I want to extract Shinkiro's illustration (heavily discussed in promotion) in a similar example to what people did with Hideki Kamiya's free image but I have no idea how I can do it or if I am capable of to begin with. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Eh, that's a free image only because the cover of the game isn't the central subject of the photo (though that's pretty subjective). Cropping it to just the cover removes that, and you just have an angled photo of a non-free image. --PresN 19:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Also, there is a doubt I had about Kyo's article. Do you think some parts from reception are worth removing? I tried removing reviews but I can't tell if some sources are kinda useless or pointless. The fact that the article uses 191 references bugs me similar to when I revised Dante from Devil May Cry with another user. Cheers. Tintor2 (talk) 21:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tintor2: Ah, I think you misunderstood- there's no way that crop can be a free-use photo on commons. Taking a photograph specifically of a copyrighted artwork doesn't transform it into a non-copyrighted thing.
As to the reception, I don't have an opinion. It's not too long so it wouldn't be my priority to change. I'm baffled as to how that article has 191 references as well- somehow every references is used only once or twice? Like, every single fact is cited to a different source. That feels like bad editing- if there's a good source that covers a bunch of stuff, why would you limit it to one sentence and then base the rest on tweets and weaker sources? I'm more concerned that there's things cited to non-RSs that could have been cited to an RS already used in the article. --PresN 22:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I removed the image and tried toning down the weakest sources. The only tweet I left involved a related artist who often worked for the series. It's one of the first articles I edited so I'm trying to polish it especially due to recent changes about notability guidelines. Cheers Tintor2 (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Followed your advice and toned down references to 180 by using some third party sources in appearances and combining two articles. Tintor2 (talk) 03:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of chiropterans

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of chiropterans, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of mormoopids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of mormoopids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

British Figure Skating Championships

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Good Evening... I'm sorry to bother you. I noticed that you have promoted some articles to FL status this afternoon. Any chance British Figure Skating Championships will be among them? It has garnered three supports, including the source review, and it has been over a month. Thank you for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:43, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Sure, did a couple more, including your list. --PresN 17:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw; thank you so much, as always, for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hola!

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Would you be so kind to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/File mover? Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 16:54, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: Sure, why not. Don't know what took you to me specifically, but I don't see any problems. --PresN 17:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I used https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins Polygnotus (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Polygnotus: Ah, neat, that makes sense, and that's a handy tool. Thanks! --PresN 17:32, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2025).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

added 0xDeadbeef

CheckUser changes

readded L235

Oversight changes

readded L235

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to determine whether the English Wikipedia community should adopt a position on AI development by the WMF and its affiliates.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • An arbitration case named Indian military history has been opened. Evidence submissions for this case close on 8 June.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FAC bot notification

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Hey PresN! I saw the bot sent me the usual promotion talkpage message but didn't message Shwabb yet so wanted to reach out in case it was a technical mistake. I remember getting my first FL promotion message was encouraging and think Shwabb definitely more than deserves the credit for this FL. Many thanks in advance about it and for the promotion! (also, an aside but I promise my next FLN won't take as long) ;) Dan the Animator 00:55, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dantheanimator Thanks, don't know why the bot skipped them but glad to fix the problem. --PresN 13:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The King of Fighters: Kyo (1998 video game)

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Hi. I recently created The King of Fighters: Kyo (1998 video game) but possibly due to the lack of Western release only 12 references. By any chance, do you know if there are old Famitsu reviews or other magazines to expand more the reception section? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 01:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Sorry for the delay, I was out of town. I do not know of any. --PresN 00:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TFL notification for July 2025

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Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of kerivoulines – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 18. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2025 July newsletter

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The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar for you!

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The Invisible Barnstar
Thank you so much for fixing the references on BG3. — ImaginesTigers (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very, very sorry for effectively wasting a bunch of your time. Without you doing that work, it would have taken me much longer to move them back off Sfn. Thank you again — ImaginesTigers (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Lost in Play

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The article Lost in Play you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lost in Play for comments about the article, and Talk:Lost in Play/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of ImaginesTigers -- ImaginesTigers (talk) 09:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explanatory sentence at List of chiropterans

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Your edit at List of chiropterans really caught my eye. I think a similar sentence should probably be on every list of species. I'm less active on Wikipedia than I once was, but at User:SchreiberBike/sandbox#Inclusion criteria for List of organisms of Place I've got a list of things I was working on along those lines. If you've got other ideas or would like help implementing them, I'd love to work with you. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SchreiberBike: I agree- I added it to there (and every mammal list I've done) because a reviewer suggested it at the FLC for List of glirids, as they didn't understand how the parentheses worked, but I also saw someone else ask for the same thing at their List of insect orders nomination, so I think most readers have no idea why some authorities get parentheses and others don't. --PresN 22:34, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of glirids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of glirids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2025).

Administrator changes

removed NuclearWarfare

Interface administrator changes

added L235

Guideline and policy news

Miscellaneous

  • The 2025 Developing Countries WikiContest will run from 1 July to 30 September. Sign up now!
  • Administrator elections will take place this month. Administrator elections are an alternative to RFA that is a gentler process for candidates due to secret voting and multiple people running together. The call for candidates is July 9–15, the discussion phase is July 18–22, and the voting phase is July 23–29. Get ready to submit your candidacy, or (with their consent) to nominate a talented candidate!
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:49, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for VVVVVV

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VVVVVV has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:03, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of geomyids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of geomyids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 04:58, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of sciurids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of sciurids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for discussion of Template:Plant species table

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Template:Plant species table has been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for discussion of Template:Plant species table/row

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Template:Plant species table/row has been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
  • Following a request for comment, there is a new policy outlining the granting of permissions to view the IP addresses of temporary accounts. Temporary account deployment on the English Wikipedia is currently scheduled for September 2025, and editors can request access to the permission ahead of time. Admins are encouraged to keep an eye on the request page; there will likely be a flood of editors requesting the permission when they realize they can no longer see IP addresses.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case Indian military history has been closed.
    • South Asia (WP:CT/SA) is designated a contentious topic. The topic area is specifically defined as All pages related to the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups.
    • The contentious topic designations for Sri Lanka (SL) and India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan (IPA) are folded into this new contentious topic.
    • The community-authorized general sanctions regarding South Asian social groups (GS/CASTE) are rescinded and folded into this new contentious topic.
  • The arbitration case Article titles and capitalisation 2 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case closed on 31 July.
  • The arbitration case Transgender healthcare and people has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 11 August.

Miscellaneous

  • Wikimania 2025 is happening in Nairobi, Kenya, and online from August 6 to August 9. This year marks 20 years of Wikimania. Interested users can join the online event. Registration for the virtual event is free and will remain open throughout Wikimania. You can register here now.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Buster Sword

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After seeing the Master Swords I wondered if I could make for the Buster Sword since there is a bout its creating and marketing. However, when it comes to critical response I cannot find much. I found one or two sources calling it the Best weapon of versión but even when googling articles containing its are just mere mentions. If you find anything notable, could you link it? Cheers Tintor2 (talk) 02:28, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: I'll keep an eye out, but I really doubt that the sword is notable beyond Cloud Strife. --PresN 02:37, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. I've been googling for a while but the only notable sources involve marketing, real life copies and few best weapons lists. Not much commentary for a reception section. I also considered a One Wing Angel article but I suck when it comes to music. Tintor2 (talk) 11:59, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2025 September newsletter

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The fourth round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 29 August. The penultimate round saw three contestants score more than 800 points:

Everyone who competed in Round 4 will advance to Round 5 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for Round 4 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 9 featured articles, 12 featured lists, 98 good articles, 9 good topic articles, more than 150 reviews, nearly 100 did you know articles, and 18 in the news articles.

In advance of the fifth and final round, the judges would like to thank every contestant for their hard work. As a reminder, any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed in Round 5. In addition, note that Round 5 will end on 31 October at 23:59 UTC. Awards at the end of Round 5 will be distributed based on who has the most tournament points over all five rounds, and special awards will be distributed based on high performance in particular areas of content creation (e.g., most featured articles in a single round).

Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges – Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), Frostly (talk · contribs), Guerillero (talk · contribs) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) – are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2025).

Administrator changes

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removed

Interface administrator changes

readded Ragesoss

CheckUser changes

readded AmandaNP
removed SQL

Oversight changes

readded AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open on whether use of emojis with no encyclopedic value in mainspace and draftspace (e.g., at the start of paragraphs or in place of bullet points) should be added as a criterion under G15.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case Article titles and capitalisation 2 has been closed.
  • An RfC is in progress to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:16, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your nomination of Thank Goodness You're Here! is under review

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Your good article nomination of the article Thank Goodness You're Here! is under review. See the review page for more information. This may take up to 7 days; feel free to contact the reviewer with any questions you might have. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Pokelego999 -- Pokelego999 (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Four Continents Figure Skating Championships/archive1

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Good Afternoon! The source review for this FLC was already done on August 1. In fact, it was the very first review done for this submission. 😀 Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Whoops, lol. I literally was thinking to myself "well, the Adichie list has a source review, so lets go up one more" and completely missed that. Thanks! --PresN 17:45, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is there sufficient support to promote it? Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:46, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer one more support vote first, though given the level of reviewer participation this past month I may end up taking a day in a week or two and serve as the third reviewer for this and several other nominations just to get them closed. --PresN 17:49, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Interest in reviewing seems to have stalled, but I'm just as guilty as anyone else. But it's all over the place, too: FL, FA, and GA. I see you have another rodent list that I somehow missed; I'll take a look at it this weekend. 😀 Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:52, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your nomination of Thank Goodness You're Here! has passed

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Your good article nomination of the article Thank Goodness You're Here! has passed; congratulations! See the review page for more information. If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Pokelego999 -- Pokelego999 (talk) 18:43, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Technical Barnstar
I am awarding this to you to thank you for your repair on Template:WPVG announcements. I always liked fixing the articles that lacked an importance rating, so I was a bit confused why the tracker wasn't working. Thanks again for fixing the issue. CaptainGalaxy 19:06, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of heteromyids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of heteromyids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of caviids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of caviids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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How is mecc.co a only hobbyist fan site when it has a strong connection and has worked with MECC staff members, as seen in their about info. [2]: "This website is a production of the Apple Pugetsound Program Library Exchange (A.P.P.L.E.) User Group in coordination with the original CEO of MECC, staff", doesn't it lean towards reliability? Despite that, not only mecc.co but the journal Call-A.P.P.L.E also reported 80 million copies of The Oregon Trail. [3] Kazama16 (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kazama16: The Apple Pugetsound Program Library Exchange is a hobby group, not a publication with editorial policies. Mecc.co is a hobby site run by Bill Martens, again not a publication with editorial policies. Call-A.P.P.L.E. is a fanzine, not a journal; it's a pdf Bill Martens puts out monthly, not a magazine with independent journalists and editors and fact-checking, much less an academic journal with expert oversight, no matter what the wikipedia article on it says. If the source had been an interview with the original CEO of MECC where the CEO said that the 1985 version of The Oregon Trail sold 80 million copies, I'd accept it. I'd think it was pretty far-fetched, but I'd accept it. Even if it was an interview in a hobby blog/fanzine. But that's not what this is- this is one dude out in Seattle, who is friends with a guy who maybe could remember what the sales numbers were, saying offhand in a blog post a number that no one else has ever said for the sales of a game he had nothing to do with and not saying where he got that number from. That's just not a reliable source. --PresN 01:28, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – October 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2025).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

removed Vanamonde93

Arbitration

  • After a motion, arbitration enforcement page protections no longer need to be logged in the AELOG. A bot now automatically posts protections at WP:AELOG/P. To facilitate this bot, protection summaries must include a link to the relevant CT page (e.g. [[WP:CT/BLP]]), and you will receive talk page reminders if you forget to specify the contentious topic but otherwise indicate it is an AE action.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject markup advice

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Hi PresN, many thanks for all the help with everything yesterday! Wanted to double check this with you to make sure before changing anything. Currently I use the markup on WP:Ukraine SIA-Class talkpages:
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=SI|1= {{WikiProject Disambiguation}} {{WikiProject Ukraine|importance=low}} {{WikiProject Cities}} }}
I based using "SI" on how WP:Military history does it, though I noticed that they add the class param twice: (example from Talk:Battle of Oslo)
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=SI| {{WikiProject Military history|class=SI|Nordic=yes}} }}
For WP:VG, the markup has List-Class for the banner and "SIA" instead of SI for the WP:VG template. I was thinking of having it so WP:Ukraine also uses "SIA" though wondering if you'd have any recommendations or insight about this. Guessing it doesn't make too much a difference but thought it would be good to check in case. Dan the Animator 17:34, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also wondering if the |1= markup is necessary since I noticed WP:VG has it but WP:Military history doesn't. Dan the Animator 17:35, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
1) @Dantheanimator: I don't think it matters too much about SI vs. SIA, though I've mostly seen it abbreviated SIA so that's what I went with for video games. Note that your Ukraine classmask right now only supports "SIA" as a value; if you want to support other forms you need to add e.g. |SI=SIA or |SETINDEX=SIA.
2) 1= is not necessary; by default for any template the first "unnamed" parameter is considered "1". That's not a wpvg thing to use an explicit |1, I think some people just write template calls oddly.
3) Your markup above doesn't work, which is why you're having to manually add Category:SIA-Class Ukraine articles. Putting "{{WikiProject banner shell|class=SI" is treated exactly the same as if you had put "{{WikiProject banner shell|class=List" - bannershell just treats SI or SIA as synonyms for list, and it passes it through as List to the wikiproject category. The Milhist example is right- you need to have "{{WikiProject banner shell|class=SI|{{WikiProject Ukraine|class=SIA|importance=low}}}}", e.g. give the WikiProject Ukraine specifically the SIA class parameter. See Talk:Adamivka for an example. --PresN 19:30, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks PresN! Just to confirm, this is the markup I'll use for all the Ukraine SIAs: (using "SIA" instead of SI in the banner just to keep it standardized since it doesn't matter much and would be less confusing for other editors)


{{WikiProject banner shell|class=SIA| {{WikiProject Disambiguation}} {{WikiProject Ukraine|class=SIA|importance=low}} {{WikiProject Cities}} }}

Also all the SIAs I've seen use low-importance ratings instead of NA though wondering if NA would be better maybe? Dan the Animator 19:38, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For VG I went with NA-class, though that was partially to distinguish it from Lists; I think either has an argument to be made for it. --PresN 20:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was hoping to class them as NA for the same reason so that helps. I'll go ahead and modify the markup based on the above, with a NA importance rating. Also, would it be alright if I messaged you in the future if there's other WikiProject technical questions that come up? Not expecting much of any though there's a few more edits to the WP:Ukraine template I thought of and in general your advice and experience is really helpful. Dan the Animator 20:24, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free any time, I don't mind! --PresN 21:04, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

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The edit notice for the list of best-selling video games has become outdated and hasn't been updated for like 8 years to reflect the current situation. I want to request you to edit Template:Editnotices/Page/List of best-selling video games since I'm unable to because I lack the rights to do so.

This is my proposed text = "This is a data-based article and should be supported by trustworthy sources to ensure accuracy. Sales estimation sites such as VGChartz and Steam Spy are not considered valid sources for this list, as they do not provide verified sales figures or professional estimates. Care should also be taken when citing secondary sources; if they reference a questionable source or an internet leak rather than the official one or themselves, the credibility of the source in question should be evaluated before inclusion." Kazama16 (talk) 21:47, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kazama16: I tweaked the wording a bit, but done. --PresN 22:15, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your nomination of Paper Trail (video game) is under review

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Your good article nomination of the article Paper Trail (video game) is under review. See the review page for more information. This may take up to 7 days; feel free to contact the reviewer with any questions you might have. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 14:04, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of List of erethizontids

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of erethizontids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 23:49, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guide to temporary accounts

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Hello, PresN. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.

Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.

How do temporary accounts work?

Editing from a temporary account
  • When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern: ~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
  • All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
  • A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
  • As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
    • There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
    • There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.

Temporary account IP viewer user right

How to enable IP Reveal

Impact for administrators

  • It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
  • It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
  • Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).

Rules about IP information disclosure

  • Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally not allowed (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1 or ~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1).
  • Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR, but not Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67)
  • See Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer § What can and can't be said for more detailed guidelines.

Useful tools for patrollers

  • It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card, available in Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options → Tick Enable the user info card
    • This feature also makes it possible for anyone to see the approximate count of temporary accounts active on the same IP address range.
  • Special:IPContributions allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
  • Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
  • The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.

Videos

  • How to use Special:IPContributions
  • How automatic IP reveal works
  • How to use IP Info
  • How to use User Info

Further information and discussion

Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2025 November newsletter

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The 2025 WikiCup has come to an end. Our top scorers, based on the tournament point rankings (which can be seen here), are:

  1. Delaware BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,604 tournament points, will receive the 1st place award.
  2. English Island, South Australia Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,075 tournament points, will receive the 2nd place award.
  3. Arconning (submissions) with 860 tournament points, will receive the 3rd place award.
  4. Canada History6042 (submissions) with 804 tournament points
  5. Sammi Brie (submissions) with 635 tournament points
  6. Oklahoma TheDoctorWho (submissions) with 386 tournament points
  7. AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 373 tournament points
  8. Thebiguglyalien (submissions) with 362 tournament points

Our high scorers in the final round were:

  • Delaware BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,035 round points, mostly from 19 good articles and 21 did you know articles about athletes
  • vigilantcosmicpenguin (submissions) with 819 round points, mostly from 13 good articles and 11 did you know articles about a wide range of topics from abortion topics to African cities
  • TheNuggeteer (submissions) with 508 round points from 9 good articles, 4 good topic articles and 6 did you know articles mainly about Philippines topics, along with 19 good article reviews

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 2 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 106 good articles, 5 good topic articles, 178 article reviews, 76 did you know articles, and 9 in the news articles. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

The top eight scorers will receive awards shortly. The following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. These prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field during the competition.

  • English Island, South Australia Gog the Mild (submissions) wins the featured article prize, with 12 featured articles total, and the featured topic prize, with 9 featured topic articles in total
  • Canada Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize, with 10 featured lists total
  • AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) wins the featured picture prize, submitting the only featured picture in the entire contest during round 3
  • Canada History6042 (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize, with 127 featured content reviews. He will also share the ITN prize, with 20 in the news articles in total.
  • Delaware BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize, with 100 good articles total, and the DYK prize, with 147 did you know articles in total. He will also share the ITN prize, with 20 in the news articles in total.
  • Oklahoma TheDoctorWho (submissions) wins the good topic prize, with 16 good topic entries in total
  • Arconning (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize, with 68 good article reviews in total

A special mention also goes to these users who scored the highest in a particular category in a single round:

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate. The WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2026 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!

On behalf of the judges, Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email):

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Village pump (proposal) has an RfC

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Wikipedia:Village pump (proposal) has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:24, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2025).

Administrator changes

added Toadspike
removed

CheckUser changes

added asilvering

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with FAC bot

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I saw where you promoted my article yesterday (thank you!), but it is the only one of the whole batch you promoted to have been processed by the bot. Not sure what the problem is, but all of those other articles are still sitting at FLC. Just FYI. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:22, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've reported it to the bot owner. --PresN 12:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]