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Notice Coming here to ask why I deleted your article? Read this page first...

If that doesn't help, read these FAQs.

1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?

Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.

2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!

Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.

3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!

Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.

4. Why did you delete my article without warning?

Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.

5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?

Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.

6. You have a very interesting view of neutrality. The authors you give credence to have a definite point of view and you discount those that disagree.

Answer: There is of course no answer because this is not a question. It's a snide comment added by someone who doesn't understand the NPOV rule. Possibly a Ricardian revisionist.

And please SIGN YOUR POSTS, otherwise I don't know who is asking me the question!


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Administrators' newsletter – October 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2025).

Administrator changes

removed

CheckUser changes

removed Vanamonde93

Arbitration

  • After a motion, arbitration enforcement page protections no longer need to be logged in the AELOG. A bot now automatically posts protections at WP:AELOG/P. To facilitate this bot, protection summaries must include a link to the relevant CT page (e.g. [[WP:CT/BLP]]), and you will receive talk page reminders if you forget to specify the contentious topic but otherwise indicate it is an AE action.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:56, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Block evasion

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Hi Deb. I just noticed evidence of block evasion with an account you blocked, Tzmediahouse. They created Draft:Ebonny Musik, which you deleted as G11 and blocked them. The next day, another account popped up - TzolaTz - and recreated the same draft. Hardly coincidence, I think. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:37, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've been away on holiday and once again I wasn't able to log in on my phone. I'll have a look. Deb (talk) 14:07, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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Precious
Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting Speedy Deletion

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Deb I want to challenge your speedy deletion here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghulam_Rasool_Dehlvi as I beleive that subject atleast passes; WP: Basic ; and A4 does not applicable here as it was significantly different from the deleted version, as far as I can see from Wikipedia mirror website. Please undelete it per contested Deletion and allow me to work there; and will be happy if you allow independent adminstrator to make their judgement. 121.46.87.82 (talk) 13:38, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was completely different from the decade old 2016 version. So A4 no longer applies there. 121.46.87.82 (talk) 14:08, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In a way you're correct in saying that it was significantly different from the deleted version. In fact, it was shorter than the original version, with fewer references, so it's very unlikely to meet the inclusion criteria. However, I could restore it to draft. You don't seem to have edited previously, so you should practise before you start trying to create articles. Deb (talk) 14:09, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure; 121.46.87.82 (talk) 14:29, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this way I will also get enough time to improve it in draft space. 121.46.87.82 (talk) 14:30, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Deb Hey, it seems you forgot to restore the requested draft? 121.46.87.82 (talk) 12:44, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have you done any practice yet? Deb (talk) 12:46, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What? I don't need any practice to make edits in the draft space. You are unnecessarily extending the process? 121.46.87.82 (talk) 12:47, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What's the great rush? Do you have a conflict of interest? Deb (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No great rush? My request is idle for the past 25 hours? 121.46.87.82 (talk) 12:52, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You may be under the impression that I have nothing else to do but respond to your requests. I consider this to be low priority, and you could be doing something useful while you are waiting. Deb (talk) 12:56, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Deb; I have tried to improve the draft following your advice above; I think that things have changed in the decade and Subject do pass WP:Basic at the moment. Requesting you to send this back to main space per WP:DRAFTOBJECT. Thanks.121.46.87.246 (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will be happy if you will allow independent new page patroller or admin to patrol this in main space. Regards 121.46.87.246 (talk) 08:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not in mainspace, in draft. Follow the instructions to submit it for review. Deb (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Deb You Can't force me to bound with AFC; as it is not a compulsory process; if you think it still needs significant improvements then please let me know so that I can improve a bit more before it is moved to main space. Just wanted to say you that I am skipping AFC here. Thanks 121.46.87.246 (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're a brand-new user and you should go through the normal process. You've flatly refused to practise editing, which leads me to the conclusion that you do have a connection with the subject that you haven't declared; nevertheless I've given you a second chance, so use it wisely. Deb (talk) 08:35, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:BUREAUCRACY . I have no connection with the subject hence declaring no conflict of interest. Although you can assume anything you like but you can't impose your wishes on others. See What Wikipedia is not. 121.46.87.246 (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please follow the correct procedure as instructed. Deb (talk) 08:45, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not bound to AFC. Either send this to main space or recommend changes to improve the draft. 121.46.87.246 (talk) 08:46, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red - November 2025

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Women in Red | November 2025, Vol 11, Issue 11, Nos. 326, 327, 353, 354

Recognized as the most active topic-based WikiProject by human changes.

Online events:

Announcements:

Tip of the Month:

  • Verifiability is increasingly important as AI evolves. You should ensure that every statement made
    is adequately sourced. There should be no less than three independent reliable sources for each
    biography, including at least one source for each paragraph.

Progress ("moving the needle"):

  • Statistics available via various tools: previously, Humaniki tool; currently, QLever. Thank you if
    you contributed one or more of the 20,473 articles created in the past year.
  • 21 Oct 2024, 19.963% of biographies on EN-WP were about women (2,030,245 biographies; 405,305 women)
  • 28 Oct 2025: 20.23% of biographies on EN-WP were about women (2,094,677 biographies; 423,778 women)

Other ways to participate:

--Rosiestep (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Guide to temporary accounts

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Hello, Deb. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.

Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.

How do temporary accounts work?

Editing from a temporary account
  • When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern: ~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
  • All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
  • A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
  • As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
    • There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
    • There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.

Temporary account IP viewer user right

How to enable IP Reveal

Impact for administrators

  • It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
  • It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
  • Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).

Rules about IP information disclosure

  • Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally not allowed (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1 or ~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1).
  • Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR, but not Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67)
  • See Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer § What can and can't be said for more detailed guidelines.

Useful tools for patrollers

  • It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card, available in Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options → Tick Enable the user info card
    • This feature also makes it possible for anyone to see the approximate count of temporary accounts active on the same IP address range.
  • Special:IPContributions allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
  • Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
  • The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.

Videos

  • How to use Special:IPContributions
  • How automatic IP reveal works
  • How to use IP Info
  • How to use User Info

Further information and discussion

Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:U7

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I think they need to have been created more than six months to meet current criteria. I think it sucks, but no one asked me. Maybe WP:MFD? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:59, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, i'll find another way. Deb (talk) 12:12, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And also U7 only applies to user subpages, not top-level userpages. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:31, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a bit weird that, isn't it? Deb (talk) 08:28, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have WP:U7BLANK, which allows you to blank top-level userpages (instead of completely deleting them) if they fall under U7 otherwise. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:36, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but sometimes you need the history to be deleted so they can't just bring back the previous version. Deb (talk) 08:35, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We really need WP:U7BLANKANDREVDEL... Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:12, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2025).

Administrator changes

added Toadspike
removed

CheckUser changes

added asilvering

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:34, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for George Martin

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George Martin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 03:14, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]