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I consider all my AFD closures carefully and I rarely change them based on talk page requests. If you object to any of my AFD closures please refer to Wikipedia:Deletion review. I waive all requirements to discuss with me prior to doing so.

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RFC Notice

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Hello, this notice is for everyone who took part in the March 2024 AfD on lists of airline destinations. I have started a new RfC on the subject. If you would like to participate please follow this link: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not § RfC on WP:NOT and British Airways destinations. Sunnya343 (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Priyanka Choudhary

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Hi because you protected the topic can you tell me what is the problem with this article? I mean there are so many articles of actors in Wikipedia which are not as good as this article and those actors have not done as many roles as Priyanka has done. Iamaninnocentsoul (talk) 05:16, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly, please see wikipedia:Deletion review/Perennial requests#Priyanka_Choudhary. 08:24, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
So a new article on Priyanka Choudhary cannot be created?--Iamaninnocentsoul (talk) 08:52, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus is that there should not be an article about her at the current time. The above link explains what would need to be done if one was to be created. Stifle (talk) 07:57, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Sy Savané AfD note

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Hi, Stifle. Sorry if this is a nuisance, but I sort of... unilaterally overturned your AfD close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamed Sy Savané by turning the page into a redirect? I know there was a consensus to navify, but I was clicking through the listed pages and getting really confused as to why I couldn't find this guy mentioned in 2/3 of them? After going back into article history and looking at the sources, I realized he'd competed under two different names. While I was doing that, given that BLP applies to him, I also had to check the sources to confirm the categories somebody had assigned to him after the close were accurate. They seem to be, which is good, but I couldn't really add information to confirm that to any of the major sporting articles. I then went to check his brother's page, Amadou Sy Savané, and realized that the information I'd been looking for was there all along. So I decided to pull a bit more from the page history, and just BLAR the nav page there instead. Hopefully that's okay? No idea if that's one of the cases you're meant to take to DRV - I thought it would seem a bit silly to, given that I wasn't really questioning the close so much as realized I'd found a good target not previously discussed. If you'd like me to self revert, let me know and... I guess I'll start a new AfD? RfD? Talkpage discussion? No idea! It feels sort of fun to be in these uncharted territories! Anyways, just thought I'd give you a heads up and an update. Thanks for all you do and I hope you're having a nice evening! GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 03:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like you've done the B in WP:BRD. If someone else does the R, then you all do the D. If nobody does, then you've taken an editorial action which nobody disagreed with, and we carry on. All good! Stifle (talk) 07:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: Music Venue Properties

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Hello Stifle. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Music Venue Properties, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Presence of sources about the org is a credible assertion of importance. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 14:07, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Journal of the Indian Academy of Wood Science

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I think this has been improved enough (by another user) to keep as per WP:HEY. If you don't mind, I was bold enough to deprod it. Of course, you are free to take it to WP:AfD. Thank you. Bearian (talk) 01:56, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: Liwa al-Sharqiya

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Hello Stifle. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Liwa al-Sharqiya, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A3 does not apply to articles with an infobox. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 14:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Transgender healthcare and people arbitration case opened

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You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Transgender healthcare and people. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Transgender healthcare and people/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 11, 2025 at 23:59 UTC, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Transgender healthcare and people/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction. For the Arbitration Committee, Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 06:52, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:57, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/John_Fraser_(Canadian_soccer)

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Hi Stifle, while I can see how you get to "no consensus" for a particular outcome, I think it's important to note the overwhelming opposition to retaining the page as a standalone, especially given that the minority of arguments for keeping were all invalidated.

We have 8 !votes to delete or redirect, all citing our guidelines requiring GNG SIGCOV for sportspeople. I do think it is also somewhat telling that two of our most active sportsperson AfD closers, @Vanamonde93 and @Asilvering, opted to voice their preference to delete in the last two days... Then we have two merge !votes, which also oppose retention as a standalone (but don't address how the trivial info in the stub really warrants a merge). Finally, we have just 4 keep !votes: the first cites NOLY as its sole rationale, even though the subject is explicitly disallowed from qualifying for NOLY and, even if he did meet that criterion, the article would still be required to cite an IRS SIGCOV source. The second keep makes the exact same incorrect argument. The third is, literally, ILIKEIT. And the fourth is invalidated by the fact that Olympic gold medals were rejected as notability-presuming by one global consensus and this specific medaling situation was explicitly excluded by unanimous consensus from applying to any considerations of Olympian notability.

In my opinion, there is a clear consensus to remove the article from mainspace, and with the large majority of !voters favoring deletion, coupled with the strong arguments against redirection/merging, a delete outcome would be the best outcome. I would also like to point to this DRV on an AfD with a similar !voting pattern.
Thanks! JoelleJay (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just on the numbers, I count 5 keep, 2 merge, 2 redirect, and 5 delete, which really is balanced quite finely on "no consensus". Of course, I participated in the end, but I'd expect a closer who weighted the arguments to come to a conclusion of "redirect", and additionally I'd expect someone who peeked at the article first to come to the same mildly exasperated conclusion as the two closers who evidently did attempt to close the AfD, gave up, and !voted instead. -- asilvering (talk) 20:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The deletes are: the nom, FOARP, me, Let'srun, Vanamonde, and you; redirects: GiantSnowman and Devonian Wombat; merges: Govvy and Geschichte; and keeps: Svartner, Namiba, Ortizesp, and 4meter4. That's 6:2:2:4, which is 10 !votes in favor of removing the page. I would think that would be a solid consensus to at least redirect even before discounting the !votes that 100% relied on meeting a guideline that the subject objectively does not meet (NOLY)... JoelleJay (talk) 22:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm biased here, obviously, but this isn't exactly your typical no consensus closure of participants disagreeing on what the "significant" in SIGCOV means. The keeps are relying to an extent on a guideline we've given less weight to over the years, and the merges in this case are clearly in substantive agreement that a standalone isn't appropriate. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not even that they're relying on a guideline that we don't give as much weight to -- the guideline itself explicitly says it excludes medalists in competitions with <4 teams. Those !votes would have been invalid even if NSPORT2022 didn't pass. JoelleJay (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there. As is noted at the top of the page and in my talk page edit notice, I carefully consider all deletion decisions before closing and do not reconsider them based on talk page requests, so feel free to list a deletion review if you feel I have not followed deletion process properly.
I don't believe your methodology of classing merge and redirect as delete !votes, then discarding the keep !votes and reassessing which of merge, redirect, or delete to do, corresponds with WP:DPR. The numbers you have given correspond with a no-consensus closure, and it does not seem to me that any arguments were discernibly weaker than others. Absent a consensus to change a guideline, it is for each individual debate to determine how to apply that guideline to the specific debate.
I consider myself to be well towards the deletionist end of the spectrum, and I assure you that if I could have found a consensus to remove the article, I would. Stifle (talk) 20:52, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok...I'll bring this to DRV, I guess. JoelleJay (talk) 21:49, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am still really curious how you can consider the keep !votes "not weaker" than the other arguments? Meeting NOLY is voided if the article doesn't meet SPORTCRIT, and the subject didn't even meet NOLY... JoelleJay (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is for each contributor to an AFD to interpret and apply the relevant policies and guidelines to the discussion at hand. Other users don't get to declare people's arguments "void" if they interpret them differently. Stifle (talk) 08:08, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But...the criterion in question is objective: there is no "different" interpretation of "medalists meet NOLY unless the athlete competed in an event with fewer than four competitors or teams (i.e., when all participants received a medal)." A keep based entirely on the assertion the subject "meets NOLY" for an Olympian who objectively does not should always be discounted, just as we would do for a !vote on an academic based wholly on an assertion that they meet NPROF #6 through being a dean of arts and sciences. And this isn't even addressing the other objective criterion in SPORTCRIT that would require this article to cite a source of IRS SIGCOV even if the subject met NOLY, something not a single keep !voter even addressed. JoelleJay (talk) 15:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Stifle/Design and production of The Crystal Maze

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User:Stifle/Design and production of The Crystal Maze, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Stifle/Design and production of The Crystal Maze and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Stifle/Design and production of The Crystal Maze during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Paradoctor (talk) 09:28, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comparison of Dewey and Library of Congress subject classification

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Rublamb is claiming your closure also means that the table has to be retained. From what I understand: the article wasn't deleted as is the purpose of the AfD. It was kept based on WP:N. Removing the table is normal editing. What are the next steps? Logoshimpo (talk) 17:01, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm my closure only relates to the retention or deletion of the article. It does not prevent editing of the article in line with normal processes. Stifle (talk) 07:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1310691243

Just trying to follow this advice Trade (talk) 08:41, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pinye Malaibi

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So you're saying the article can be restored if I am able to add a decent amount of content on him? Since I can certainly do that. BeanieFan11 (talk) 13:47, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. That can be done as a normal editorial action, subject to WP:BRD and WP:CON. Stifle (talk) 14:05, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at WP:MCQ § PD-MAGov

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 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:MCQ § PD-MAGov. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:53, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stife. I'm notifying you of this discussion because you're an administrator on both Wikipedia and Commons and thought you might be able to provide some insight into how to best resolve things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:54, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll have a look. Stifle (talk) 08:03, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 September 18 § Template:Digwuren enforcement

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Templates you have created have been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 20:22, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion review for Anthony T. DiPietro

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Anthony T. DiPietro. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 13:09, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed decision for Transgender healthcare and people posted

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Happy First Edit Day!

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Wikiproject Magic: The Gathering

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Hi! I was wondering if you are still interested in WikiProject M:TG. Please respond to this within a week if you are still interested in helping out. If you do not respond within a week you will be classified as inactive on the WikiProject member list. Thanks! Snuggle 🖤 (talk) 21:13, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Realistically I will not have time in the foreseeable future. Stifle (talk) 07:45, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]