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Welcome to the drive

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Geno (Mario) (January 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Vrxces were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
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The comment the reviewer left was:

The article unfortunately features a few major issues. Firstly, the 'reception' section has significant problems with WP:NPOV - the article overstates fan reaction in a way that reads as a petition for Nintendo to put the character in Smash. In fact, in terms of notability, the entire secondary reception of Geno as a character is presented only really as fans really badly wanting Geno to be in Smash. This lacks the sort of depth and significant coverage ordinarily required under WP:GNG for a fictional character. Whilst not relevant to AFC, the article does have some issues with its wording that I assume may be the result of translation and require a copyedit if approved. Happy to chat on my talk page if you have any questions or would like some help.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 08:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome NatwonTSG2! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Your draft article, Draft:List of Minecraft characters

Hello, NatwonTSG2. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of Minecraft characters".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I apologise for not responding to you sooner, I'm not sure why I didn't. I just wanted to thank you for complementing my Geno draft, even though you already made your own. I am sorry for the overlap, I had no idea. I wish you luck in your future endeavours in your future here in creating Wikipedia articles. Best wishes, Captain Galaxy 23:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay and I got it that you have no idea that I'm working Geno draft and hopefully in the future, more characters and that including video game characters will be notably enough to have it own article.🙂 NatwonTSG2 (talk) 00:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Flower (arcade game) for deletion

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* Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Shantae (disambiguation)

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Nomination of Matt (Wii Sports) for deletion

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 11:56, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Just a heads up that I know that article deletion discussions can be very unmotivating. I thought the article itself and your efforts were of very good quality, just the sourcing maybe wasn't enough for notability. I'm hoping that the consensus can be to merge the article with one of the Wii Sports ones so that your work isn't lost. Appreciate your understanding. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:00, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Rayman (video game)

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Sonic characters

Why do the film characters not fit the list of sonic the hedgehog characters section "characters from other media". They are characters from other media. Should an additional page be created for characters in the Sonic film franchise? Anonymous29345 (talk) 14:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why I didn't featured the film characters are because of the inclusion of the article's talk page that characters from other media who didn't make any major game appearances will not be listed. And also no, I don't think an additional page for characters of the Sonic film series won't be created so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 22:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Big the Cat for deletion

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Re: Big the Cat

For what it's worth, I've been trying to find sources for it, and while there is some discussion it'd be hard to push. I don't think you should be discouraged by the AfD though, we've had many subjects on the verge that only blossom after a particular version gets enough reaction (case in point, Rayman). Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had kinda decided to not get too discouraged just because a few articles that I created got AFD. Creating an article based around a character is no easy thing. That Rayman article which you pointed out took over a year of losing hopes of the creation of the article due of many rejections to be finally created on February 2024 and since then, it like "I know what I'm doing but no matter what, it get redirected." Maybe it would be best if I tried at least some feedback with other users or started it as a draft article instead of a sandbox but as this one user described my writing is just unpleasant. That the reason why I decided to quit Wikipedia however, due of upcoming tasks and a good article nominations, I decided to stay in and not argue over. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 23:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for The Sims Online

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Rayman M

While I was perusing this article, I had noticed you left an edit summary stating that a user was “probably unsure what they are contributing.” However, taking a look at what has changed, you seem to have removed several clarification tags that an IP user has placed. Normally, these tags are used when there is unclear content, so the user must have found some parts of the article confusing. With all due respect, all you did was remove the tags without rephrasing any content. 195.55.86.146 (talk) 17:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fusajiro Yamauchi GAN review

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Your GA nomination of Rayman (video game)

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Tips for future articles

CC-BY-SA declaration; this section was copied from the Requests page here by me; see that page's history for full attribution. Mox Eden (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have completed your request for Rayman (video game) on WP:GOCER. Here are some tips for future articles:

The summary of a work's plot should be written in historical present tense rather than past tense.
You should not put quote marks over just all subjective-sounding adjectives said in the source; you should put them over the full relevant fragment of the sentence unless the source text is in some way different from the article text, lest it implies doubt. (e.g., "plain irritating" and difficult to "plain irritating and damned difficult" and "wonderfully clever" gaming elements, "engaging and humorous" characters and "terrific" music to "wonderfully clever gaming elements, engaging and humorous characters, terrific music, and heaps of whimsy".) MOS:QUOTEPOV explains it better.
Do not use contractions in the article unless they are present in a quote.
Linking to adolescence in the quote "ennobles the adolescence world of video games" (for which I changed "adolescence" to "adolescent", as that is what the source said) was not necessary, as the concept of adolescence has otherwise nothing to do with the article.
"Difficultly" means done with difficulty, not make things difficult.
"Probably" and "maybe" should not be used in the same sentence to describe the same thing, as that would be redundant.
"Venturing" means that a question or statement was said in an uncertain way. Since there is no indication that Next Generation was uncertain about the quality of the Atari Jungle version, I have changed "venturing" to "saying that".

Mox Eden (talk) 05:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bendy and the Dark Revival (June 30)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Zxcvbnm was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Remains failing GNG and there is a lack of reception to pass WP:INDISCRIMINATE. I would suggest discussing it on the series page only.

ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Rayman (video game)

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2nd Opinion

Hey Natwon, just wanted to let you know about some goings on regarding the GA review for Geno. I appreciate your willingness to take on such a task, and hope to hear back with more of the critiques you have regarding the article. However, I also think it is best if I ask for an additional reviewer as I just want some oversight from an editor with more expertise on the subject to just give some feedback on the article. This second opinion will show up in due course, whenever an editor is willing to take up the challenge. I just think some extra help here would be best. In regards, Captain Galaxy 17:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Captain Galaxy for notifying me about your opinion of adding an extra reviewer. NatwonTSG^TALK 17:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Rayman (video game)

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Hello! ;) Vitorperrut555 (talk) 02:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

uh hello there? NatwonTSG^TALK 03:25, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonic fandom (January 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Vrxces were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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The comment the reviewer left was:

Apologies mate, there's just way too many unsourced statements and non-neutral assertions about the fandom that suggest WP:SYNTH and WP:OR, that the fandom is "eccentric and passionate", "resilient against all odds", and so on. The sourcing for the analysis is not strong.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 01:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding Draft:Bendy and the Dark Revival

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Regarding Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog fandom

Hello @Plantcoal! I am writing regarding your AfC submission Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog fandom. You will see that I have made some wording edits, for example contractions like 'aren't' are not encyclopaedic. There were also some other sentences that did not meet WP:NPOV. These have been reworded! It has been a while since the draft was last declined, and the issues which that review raised I feel have been addressed adequately. I will therefore be accepting the draft! Unfortunately, as of right now I am unable to accept the draft as a redirect page already exists with the same name. I have requested this be deleted. This should hopefully take place soon! My recommendation now would be to go over the draft one last time checking for any typos and suchlike. Thank you for submitting this draft and happy editing! 11WB (talk) 17:26, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just as an aside, whilst Wikipedia is not censored, the fourth paragraph in the Fan base section was a bit problematic for Wikipedia. Specifically under WP:TONE and WP:UNDUE. 'Generally, the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all, except perhaps in a "see also" to an article about those specific views. For example, the article on the Earth does not directly mention modern support for the flat Earth concept, the view of a distinct (and minuscule) minority; to do so would give undue weight to it.' However, 'How much detail is required depends on the subject.' To maintain a fair balance of both of these points, I did not remove the paragraph entirely, instead I reworded it so that less detail was required but was still relevant to the article as a whole. I hope this makes sense! 11WB (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog fandom has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog fandom. Thanks! 11WB (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonic the Hedgehog fandom has been accepted

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11WB (talk) 21:24, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies.

Hello @Plantcoal. Unfortunately, administrator @Sergecross73 has disapproved of my AfC acceptance of your article. The reason for this being prose related. I have returned it to draft until copy-editing takes place to resolve this: Draft:Sonic the Hedgehog fandom. I apologise profusely for this and I express sadness at my failing to properly review your draft according to AfC procedure. I will try my hardest not to repeat this mistake in future. This is not your fault in any way, this is entirely on me. 11WB (talk) 01:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Really, that was the best writing that I can do and yet, some administrator just pushes it back to draft mode because of too many issues despite me not seeing any. Not going to argue, just learn some stuff and go back next year. plant COAL 01:15, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I returned it to draft. Sergecross added the prose template. I acted on a clear signal of disapproval. I should mention I've only been an AfC reviewer since Aug 4, I am very, very new. I am also still progressing through WP:NPP/S. I've left a message on their talk page explaining what I've done to alleviate their disapproval. Thank you for submitting your draft to AfC, I still believe it is able to be in mainspace once copy-editing has taken place. Definitely do not beat yourself up over this, this is 100% my fault! 11WB (talk) 01:19, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping for @SleepyRedHair so they are aware of what has happened! 11WB (talk) 01:22, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Plantcoal, I should mention here my decision to return the article to draft may not actually be something I'm authorised to do (I think only new page reviewers and admins are authorised). In the event that is the case, I will put my reasoning as being under WP:DRAFTONCE. It's my recommendation to not move the draft back until Sergecross has seen these talk page messages, as they may have a different opinion here. 11WB (talk) 01:35, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't doubt that there's the sourcing needed to be notable, it's just that...it's still in pretty rough shape when it comes to the actual writing of the article. I mean, read the opening sentence of the article outside of the lead.

Sonic the Hedgehog is known for being built around the notion that, contrary to the Mario franchise, Sonic is a character who directs the player by breaking the fourth wall.

I mean, read that out loud to yourself. Does that really sound good to you? "Being known for being built around the notion" is extremely awkward wording. I wanted to try to fix it myself, but the article is filled with sentences like this. And filled with these sentences with no real flow between them. It's a fine rough draft, but it's not ready to be read by the general public. Sergecross73 msg me 01:50, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did read that back yesterday and felt it was not encyclopaedic, however I have a habit of doubting myself. The sources were fine from my review, as I left in my feedback above on this talk page from Aug 10, my issues were with how it read. I do agree with @Sergecross73 on this one. I should not have accepted the draft yet, and for that I apologise. 11WB (talk) 01:56, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine. It happens. No one should be upset here. I think you'll get there. It's just not ready quite yet. Sergecross73 msg me 01:57, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sergecross, I am currently enrolled in NPP/S. I am concerned that with this disapproval and the recent Enderman situation (you can find those discussions in my user edit history) - I feel I may not be suitable for AfC reviewing yet, let alone NPP rights. At your discretion, I would accept being removed from AfC at this time until my experience has shown to improve. 11WB (talk) 01:58, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If no one's pushing for your removal (I'm not) I'd just take a pause from it and jump back in when you feel comfortable with it again. Sergecross73 msg me 02:03, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this. Seeing your edit did initially set off some alarm bells for me, I must admit. I will absolutely act on your advice and take a short reflective break from reviewing AfC drafts for the moment. I will get back onto completing NPP/S which I have admittedly neglected this week. I really appreciate your feedback and I'll take this as a soft warning that I really need to take more time and care when doing things on the project! 11WB (talk) 02:09, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Plantcoal, I have readded the AfC submission banner to the draft! This will allow you to submit the draft to AfC again once copyediting has taken place. I encourage you to collaborate with SleepyRedHair on this, as I know they've done a lot of copyediting prior to this also! I'll also commit to checking in and if I see anything that reads a bit weirdly, I'll see about making some rewording edits! Mission: get this draft back to mainspace! 11WB (talk) 02:19, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, I will collaborate with SleepyRedHair in order to get this draft back to mainspace, with some learning on copy editing, neutral point of view and plenty of more stuff (seriously, look at my contributions). plant COAL 02:31, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Plantcoal. Per policy, administrator Liz has moved the draft back to mainspace. 11WB (talk) 04:37, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, wasn't expecting that coming so quickly. plant COAL 05:27, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was due to technicality reasons, not quality reasons. Sergecross73 msg me 13:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not ready for mainspace as we have established. As the admin who initiated the move back to mainspace @Liz, I would appreciate a quick explanation on the correct procedure to return a previous AfC draft back to draft! Either here or over on the discussion you started on my talk page will be fine. Thank you. 11WB (talk) 15:01, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have spent about 45 minutes performing some copyedits to the article. Particularly the lead paragraph which was not encyclopaedic in its previous form. I have gone through multiple sections to make improvements I feel are necessary to address the issues Sergecross has highlighted. This is considerably more important now that the article is in mainspace and not in draft. I accept responsibility for accepting the draft before it was ready and for moving it back to draft without authorisation, I apologise for both of these errors on my part. I am not expecting Liz to respond here directly, so I think instead of trying to move the article back to draft, it is important to take care of the prose issues as quickly as possible seeing as the public is now able to view the article. 11WB (talk) 17:19, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Natlan peer review request

Hi there @Plantcoal,

I noticed your name under the video games section at WP:PR/V and was wondering if you would be willing to take a look at Natlan. It just recently gained GA status and I'm looking to get it to FAC soon. I have no experience with FAC so it would mean a lot to me if you could review it or point me in the right direction. You can find the peer review for that article at Wikipedia:Peer review/Natlan (Genshin Impact)/archive1.

Thanks! Gommeh 📖/🎮 15:12, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm not that experience toward FAC since I have been intermediate in GAN so. plant COAL 22:57, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

L Is for Love (The Loud House)

Hello there, @Plantcoal,

I am proud of the collaboration we made to get the Luna Loud article public. I decided to follow it up by drafting an article on the episode that introduced her LGBTQ status, "L Is for Love," since many of the sources we used on that article could also work well in a page about the episode. You can view it at Draft:L Is for Love (The Loud House). I would appreciate it if you got on board to help develop the article.

Uptherial (talk) 04:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh cool, I wasn't expecting the Luna Loud article to immediately passed AFC. plant COAL 13:52, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]