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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for stewarding Silent Parade Lajmmoore (talk) 08:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I saw your article on Veiqia on the front page a few days ago, it looked nice there! Noleander (talk) 08:48, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Barnstar

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Thank you for your review Dacrydium cupressinum, also congrats on promoting James Cook to GA! Alexeyevitch(talk) 12:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kitty Marion scheduled for TFA

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Triple Crown

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Special thanks to Noleander, whose incredible and ongoing efforts to improve Wikipedia have earned them the Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown'. Damien Linnane (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]



Bronze W Award

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Bronze W Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Bronze W Award for your contributions to each long-time section of the Main Page: a Featured Article at Today's Featured Article and 5 articles listed at Did You Know. Your contributions to Wikipedia put you in a class of prolific, highly skilled editors. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 00:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Promotion of Silent Parade

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Congratulations, Noleander! The article you nominated, Silent Parade, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for FAC Mentoring

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Hi, Noleander! While looking at the WP:FAM page for a mentor, I came across you. I currently need a mentor to guide me in preparing the Stray Kids article for FAC. One FAC criterion that particularly confuses me is "professional standards of writing, presentation, and sourcing." Would you kindly consider helping as my mentor? — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 04:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Shenaall - Yes, I'd be happy to help.
The FA criteria are at WP:Featured article criteria. In addition to the criteria there, FA articles have to conform to the WP manual of style at WP:MOS, and also all WP polices, such as source-related polices like WP:Verifiability.
Specific guidance I can give is:
  • Read some of the FA reviews that are happening at WP:Featured article candidates. You can see the sorts of issues and problems that reviewers discuss, and how the FA nominators attempt to resolve them.
  • Presentation: - The article should look clean and tidy, with a nice layout. There should be some images, but not too many and not too few. Usually, putting all images on the right side is the safest way. The images in the Stray Kids article now are okay; if you can add one or two more images that would be good (especially lower, for example in "Impact" section). But if you cannot find more "free to use" images, that is okay.
  • Sourcing: - Every fact in the article must have a footnote (citation) that identifies a WP:Reliable source. The footnotes can be at the end of the sentence, or end of the paragraph. Look at other FA articles to see how they do it. The sources are normally books and newspapers; avoid informal blogs or small websites. The most important thing is that the article cannot have your own opinions or ideas (that is called WP:Original research and is prohibited). If the article has a fact, and you cannot find a good, reliable source for the fact, you must remove the fact ... there is no other option.
  • Professional writing - The article must use words and sentences that are very good quality: like writing in a real encyclopedia, or like the New York Times, etc. This can be difficult. It is the hardest part of preparing the article for FA. If you need help you can ask for help in several ways:
    1. Find any WP editor that looks like they are friendly and a good writer, and post a request on their Talk page.
    2. Put the article into the WP:Peer review process: Another editor will review the article (there is a shortage of volunteers there, so sometimes you have to hunt for a reviewer and ask them, much like (1)
    3. Ask for help at WP:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests. Volunteers there will help you with wording. I do not know how active that is or how long the wait time is.
    4. I've heard that some editors use software apps to give them suggestions to re-word an individual sentence. I've never used them, but apparently an editor can input a sentence, and the app will suggest better wording. I've seen ads for "Grammarly" app, but I don't know if it is good or not. Also, I've seen discussions about editors using online AI tools to do the same thing: input a sentence and get a better one. CAUTION: if you do that, you must review the new sentence VERY CAREFULLY. All words and phrases must be consistent with what the source (the citation) says. It is very likely that an app will change some words, and the new words will have slightly different meaning. In other words: if you use a writing/grammar app, and the app gives you new words, and the new words have meanings that are not consistent with the sources, and you put these "wrong" words into the article, and reviewers discover that you did that ... the reviewers may get angry and terminate the review. So, I discourage you from using a writing/grammar app. But WP does not have a policy that prohibits them.
If English is your 2nd or 3rd language, it may take awhile to get the article to FA status. Sometimes it take me 3 or 4 months of working on a single article to get the wording to be "professional" quality ... it takes time. You have to go through the full article again and again and again.
Another option is co-nomination: that is when two editors work together on an article. Example, for Stray Kids article, you can try to find another editor that likes the article, and ask them if they want to co-nominate for FA. I've never done a co-nomination, but it is acceptable for FA: I think about 1% of FA articles are nominated by two editors.
That is all for now. Let me know if you have more questions. Noleander (talk) 13:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also: Would you like me to point out specific areas of the Stray Kids article that need work? Or are you only asking for general guidance and ideas? Noleander (talk) 18:16, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thank you for your general guidance! I'm sorry for the late reply. Can you help me point out the specific areas that need work? Which area I should focus on first? — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 01:02, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be a bit busy for the next couple of weeks. What I can do now is this:
1) A specific example of an issue: In section Stray_Kids#2020:_Japanese_debut,_生_series_and_All_In there are three paragraphs. They start with sentences:
  • On January 24, 2020, Stray Kids released the first...
  • On June 17, Stray Kids released their first studio album...
  • On November 4, Stray Kids released its first Japanese EP, ...
This does not meet the FA "high quality prose" requirement in two ways:
  1. Paragraphs near each other must all start with unique wording. They cannot all start the same way.
  2. When two sentences describe the same kind of action or event, and if the two sentences are near to each other: they must vary the wording so they do not use the exact same wording.
So, an FA article would have the same facts in that section; and probably have the same 3 paragraphs: but the paragraphs would all start with unique wordings. They would still state the exact same facts they say now; but say it in different ways.
It is okay to repeat the wording about 3 or more paragraphs apart.
2) To get more examples of specific improvements: I suggest you use the WP:Peer review process. Follow the instructions at WP:Peer_review/Guidelines. After you do those instructions, the article will be listed at Wikipedia:Peer review. You can then wait until a volunteer comes along and picks the article. That may take up to 3 or 4 months. That is slow, so it is better (after you put the article in the PR list) to find an editor that loves music. Look in WP:FA and find FA articles that are about pop music. Get the name of the editor that nominated the music article and ask them if they will do a peer review of Stray Kids. Most editors, especially editors that post articles at FA, will be happy to help. For example, I know the Cher article was approved for FA about 8 months ago ... you can ask the editor that nominated it to review your article. Or maybe look for an editor that has gotten a K-pop article promoted to FA. Noleander (talk) 01:20, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I understood the example. Thank you so much for the guidance! — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 01:41, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, is it okay to ask you question about the FAC criteria from time to time? — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 01:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you can ask me a question anytime about anything. When I said I was busy, I meant I don't have one hour to go through the article and identify all the issues. Noleander (talk) 02:44, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Silent Parade. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

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Thank you today for Kitty Marion, "about a tough-as-nails activist that always fought the good fight"! - Congrats also to your new FA! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. And thank you for this pretty picture of the flowers!! Noleander (talk) 06:15, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, - did you see the unusual moth - unusual that it shows the bright colour when not flying. - Plenty of them last year, but haven's spotted a single one this year yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes... I thought it was a slice of pizza at first :-) Noleander (talk) 11:45, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... and today I saw one! - A great singer is pictured on my talk twice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your talk page has a list of people with a caption ending "...and others who have just given up"; and User Wehwalt's Talk page has a photo with a caption "To the memory of the scuttled, the banned, and those who have just given up". Both seem to be encompassing both notable people, as well as WP editors ... but in a fuzzy way. Noleander (talk) 21:57, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for noticing. We miss some. - Today's story - short version: ten years ago we had a DYK about a soprano who sang in concerts with me in the choir, - longer: I found today a youtube of an aria she sang with us then, recorded the same year, - if you still have time: our performances were the weekend before the Iraq war ultimatum, and we sang Dona nobis pacem (and the drummer drummed!) as if they could hear us in Washington. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When people leave a performance of uplifting art (music, visual, theater) they are often filled with thoughts of world peace, harmony, fighting for the oppressed ... then the next morning dawns, and they are back to the grind. If only there was a way to make the impact of art last longer in the hearts of the audience. Noleander (talk) 16:57, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. More. Check out my talk for an Independence day, or: the pic of Oksana Lyniv was taken on 24 August. There's listening and reading in today's story, and I like both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On top of my talk: birthday of a great violinist and Requiem for a great friend. We sang Paradisi gloria from the Stabat Mater in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on James Cook

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Promotion of Atlanta Compromise

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Congratulations, Noleander! The article you nominated, Atlanta Compromise, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Atlanta Compromise

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On 3 September 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Atlanta Compromise, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that fistfights broke out at a 1903 meeting of African-American leaders when the appeasement of Southern whites was challenged? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Atlanta Compromise. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Atlanta Compromise), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FA review of Nihilism

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Hello Noleander, thanks for your FA reviews of Value theory and History a while back. I was wondering whether you might also be interested in reviewing the article Nihilism since the nomination hasn't attracted enough attention so far, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nihilism/archive1. Thanks for taking a look and please feel under no obligation if now is not a good time. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:50, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Phlsph7 - I think I'll pass, I'm currently working on the Bridge article, trying to get it to GA status. If you would like some feedback on philosophy articles in general, from an outsider's (my) perspective, it may give some insight as to why they are very hard for me to review. If you don't want my feedback, skip the following text :-)
I am an engineer, not a philosopher, and I find the philosophy articles very dry, almost to the point of being off-putting. That is just because of my own nature. I wonder if the typical WP reader would benefit from the article's containing more popular information to make them more inviting? When I think of "nihilism" I think if suicide, despair, giving up on life, 20 year old bohemians wondering what is the meaning of life, angst and goth, ... and so I would be more likely to read the article if examples of those were PROMINENTLY discussed in the article. Including examples from music, art, film, literature, popular culture. That would make me (and other WP readers?) more likely to read the article.
Of course, I'm aware that the article is focusing on Nihilism as an academic field, with deep historic, intellectual roots. Some WP editors believe that such article should never (or barely) mention cultural (popular) usages/discussions of the field of philosophy.
I remember I once tried to add some material to the atheism article that discussed how many "activist" atheists hated organized religion and viewed atheism as a way to combat the corruption and fallacies of religions (e.g. Dawkins, Hitchens, etc). But my additions were aggressively removed by the purist editors that dominated the article (this was 15+ years ago) and treated it as a very austere, religious, academic topic. I think those purists were wrong then, and are still wrong.
Which is a long-winded way of explaining how I think many philosophy articles can be improved. There is some WP guideline (I can never remember the link) that says that WP's target audience is lay readers, not specialists. Articles should not be targeted at experts in the field. If the articles mentioned a bunch of films, and novels, and suicides, and pop culture, and artworks (maybe 10% to 20% of the article?) I'd find it much more inviting. Random example (and I have ZERO idea if these relate to Nihilism): if The Scream painting or Van Gogh's ear-cutting were related nihilism, then I'd Love to see them in the article. (Again: I am using them as hypothetical examples).
But all the above is just my personal opinion ... I may be in the minority. Your articles are fantastic, and clearly you've put tons of work into them!! Noleander (talk) 16:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the timely response. An outsider's perspective can be helpful to ensure that although an article may not be entertaining, at least the most important points are accessible to a general audience. Relative weight of subtopics is usually determined by how high-quality overview sources treat a topic. I understand that philosophy articles in general, and an article on nihilism in particular, are not everyone's cup of tea. By the way, the article has some information on popular culture and novels, including an image of The Scream. Phlsph7 (talk) 17:13, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Atlanta Compromise. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:31, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

September 2025

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Thanks for the reminder. I added a dummy edit to three articles, identifying the source page/article for the original edit that created the article. Noleander (talk) 12:06, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see these edits? Fram (talk) 12:38, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I'll try again. I guess my dummy edits were ignored since I did not add any text. I'll add a blank space to some line this time. Noleander (talk) 12:40, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yoshi's New Island feedback

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Hello Noleander, I hope all is well. Thank you for providing feedback during the previous FA nomination for Yoshi's New Island. After giving it some time, I'm considering renominating the article (ideally for the last time). In the hopes of saving some time, I wanted to check in with you beforehand and see if you still approve of the article in its current state. To my knowledge, not many changes have actually been made overall, but I just wanted to be certain. Much appreciated! ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 04:24, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@The Green Star Collector - Hi, glad to see you're still working on that article. I don't have time to review it right now, but I'd offer a few ideas:
  • Consider doing a Peer Review before the FA nomination
  • Consider contacting reviewers from the prior FA nom who did not Support it, and ask for their input.
  • A fourth nomination may get ignored by some reviewers (because they may think it is a lost cause) ... so consider creating a list of 2 or 3 major improvements made to the article since the prior nomination. In the fourth nomination, in the introductory text, you could then say: This was archived in nom 3, but since then the following improvements have been made: [list here]. That may help attract reviewers.
Good luck! Noleander (talk) 13:55, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of My Dinner with Adolf for deletion

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WP:GARC: Invitation to review Inazuma (Genshin Impact)

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Your nomination of Bridge is under review

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Unreference passages tool

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Hi Noleander, I was looking at the Featured Article Nominations page recently, and noticed under the Gunpowder Plot review you mentioned "I ran the "show unreferenced passages" tool and it shows two [uncited passages]" . Would you mind pointing me towards the tool you meant? I've recently got into writing larger entries on pages and would definitely find this tool useful to have! RandomEditsForWhenIRemember (talk) 13:50, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RandomEditsForWhenIRemember Hi. The tool is:
Instructions are atUser:Phlsph7/HighlightUnreferencedPassages Some other tools are:
Noleander (talk) 13:58, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow, that's a great list. Thanks Noleander, greatly appreciated! RandomEditsForWhenIRemember (talk) 20:37, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]