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[edit]Hello, Patapsco913,
I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Isaac Hager should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at [1].
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GCatholic.org article
[edit]Type of site | Religious |
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| Available in | English |
| Created by | Gabriel Chow |
| URL | http://www.gcatholic.org/ |
| Commercial | No |
| Launched | December 8, 1997 |
| Current status | Active |
GCatholic.org is an nonprofit organization the provides comprehensive information about the Catholic Church[2][3][4] via its online database of bishops and dioceses of the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Catholic Churches. The website is not officially sanctioned by the Church. It is run as a private project by Gabriel Chow, journalist for Salt + Light Television, in Toronto. It also provides information about the performance of the Catholic Church itself in different countries and territories and provides biographical information on current and former bishops of each diocese, such as dates of birth, ordination, and (where applicable) death. When created, the site name was Giga-Catholic Information due to the fact that there are around 1 billion Catholics in the world (billion = giga).[5] It is used as a source for information on Catholic bishops and diocese, current and historical, by various news organizations[6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16] and authors.
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[edit]- ^ "gcatholic.org Site Info". Alexa Internet. Retrieved October 4, 2019.
- ^ Smith, Cara (August 20, 2019). "Priest returns to country he loves that's now grappling with 'economic apartheid'". The Hawk (newspaper) .
- ^ "David Cheney – człowiek, który stworzył światowy katalog biskupów". pl:Katolicka Agencja Informacyjna (in Polish). 29 October 2016.
Należy dodać, że Catholic Hierarchy nie jest jedynym portalem internetowym, przynoszącym ogół wiadomości o biskupach katolickich – żyjących i zmarłych – na świecie. Istnieją jeszcze co najmniej dwie podobne strony: anglojęzyczna GigaCatholic (gcatholic.org ) i niemieckojezyczna Apostolische Nachfolge (apostolische-nachfolge.de).
- ^ "GCatholic.org provides extensive info regarding the Roman Catholic instituton including Documents". Call to Action. October 23, 2020.
GCatholic.org (formerly Giga-Catholic Information) is a non-profit website aimed at providing comprehensive and useful information of the Universal Catholic Church for all Catholics in the world. The site is maintained and owned by Gabriel Chow, who resides in Toronto, Canada
- ^ Chow, Gabriel. "About Us". GCatholic.org. Retrieved October 4, 2019. [self-published]
- ^ Brockhaus, Hannah (September 12, 2018). "Pope convokes world-wide meeting of bishops on abuse crisis". Catholic News Agency.
- ^ Zorraquin i Calaytayud, Jorge (February 26, 2020). "La Colegiata del Santo Sepulcro de Calatayud se postula para ser basílica". Heraldo de Aragón (in Spanish).
- ^ "Ksiądz z Dolnego Śląska zostanie biskupem w Australii. "To wielkie wyzwanie"". Gazeta Wyborcza (in Polish). September 3, 2020.
- ^ Brenner, Lisa (March 5, 2013). "Cardinal Mahony defends handling of pedophile priests; Former Pope Benedict's legal immunity examined". KPCC.
- ^ "Apostolic Nuncio: Vatican appoints Julio Murat to Cameroon". Cameroon Radio Television. March 24, 2018.
- ^ Fernandez Sanabria, Alejandro; Cucho, Antonio (November 23, 2016). "Mientras pierde seguidores, la Iglesia Católica dispara su producción de santos". Univision (in Spanish).
- ^ Bate, Sturmius Teofanus (April 8, 2019). "Sejarah 4 Basilika Kepausan di Kota Roma, Italia". kumparan.com (in Indonesian).
- ^ Nkurunziza, Michel (January 14, 2020). "Inside proposed Kibeho Basilica". The New Times.
- ^ Brockhaus, Hannah (September 12, 2019). "Pope Francis Convokes Worldwide Meeting of Bishops on Abuse Crisis". The Irish Catholic.
- ^ Mares, Courtney (November 23, 2020). "Franciscan friar named cardinal says he is taking a leap into the deep". Catholic News Agency.
- ^ Diamant, Jeff (November 23, 2020). "Under Pope Francis, the College of Cardinals has become less European". Pew Research Center.
Data on cardinals from Press Office of the Holy See, catholic-hierarchy.org, and gcatholic.org,
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[edit]Can you please review my suggested edit on the pierre kory talk page?
[edit]I am looking for other editors who expressed interest in the topic to have a look at my proposed more neutral edit. Would you mind having a look? I am trying to reach some kind of consensus before I post.
Excessive citations to population boxes?
[edit]Hi, Patapsco. I notice you're adding many citations to population boxes for places around California. While giving references for the data in the boxes is good, it looks like you've been adding citations to old census records that aren't even used in the boxes. For example, in Twin Lakes, Mono County, California, you cited census data going all the way back to 1870, but there is only data for 2020 (when the CDP was created).
Would it be possible to only give citations for data that appears in the box, rather than all possible old census citations? Thanks very much! — hike395 (talk) 05:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello User talk:Hike395. Just wondering then. How can I make a statement that the entity has not appeared in prior censuses unless I include the prior censuses? In the past, I have had people removing my statement since they say it is unsupported. So I started adding the prior censuses so people can confirm what I am saying. California is the first state where people have objected (probably my fault since I added the information prior to updating the CDP for ease of updating; and the process is slower as CDPs seem to have been somewhat neglected in Caly...heck there is not even a full list of CDPs...just the largest). I guess I could put a direct statement in there that "xxxx has not appeared in a census until it was listed as a a xxxx in xxxx census" and add the citations but it seemed more appropriate to keep them in the population box. They way I have been working is to keep all the census PDFs open and make sure the name has not appeared in the past; and then add when it first appeared. cheers!Patapsco913 (talk) 07:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- When a piece of data is not in Wikipedia, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That just means it hasn't been added yet. You don't have to prove that the 1870 data for Twin Falls doesn't exist. Another editor has to prove that if they add it, it can be verified.
- Similarly, I don't think it is possible to cite to a negative claim. Just because a piece of data isn't in a citation, that doesn't prove that it doesn't exist. Again, I don't think you need to prove that data doesn't exist. But even if you did feel that, you would need to find a reliable source that states that it doesn't exist, rather than trying to cite to all possible primary sources which don't have the data.
- In other words, I think you are safe and don't need to add the big string of citations. — hike395 (talk) 13:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. I get your point but you are applying it very broadly and not specifically to census data. I am not adding 'all' the sources that say it is not listed in the census; rather I am just adding those few additional references from the US Census where it would have been listed ( where a necessary check would have to be done to be thorough when cleaning up the census portion of the page) and allow anyone to easily verify as much. Look at Moorpark, California#Demographics. I know that it is listed as an unincorporated place in the 1950 U.S. Census, but it is not listed here. Nobody has bothered to check since they likely think the list is definitive (and look at the laughable citation provided https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census.html - basically impossible for the average editor to verify). So it lingers as unverified or gets deleted by an editor). The other problem is that California will be different from other state projects where the data is included. Patapsco913 (talk) 14:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- My main point is you don't need to cite the absence of data in Wikipedia. Think about all of the data for infoboxes across WP! It would be an incredible burden to make a citation for all of the blank fields. The Verifiability guideline says citations are need to support material, not the fact that material is missing. — hike395 (talk) 14:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. I get your point but you are applying it very broadly and not specifically to census data. I am not adding 'all' the sources that say it is not listed in the census; rather I am just adding those few additional references from the US Census where it would have been listed ( where a necessary check would have to be done to be thorough when cleaning up the census portion of the page) and allow anyone to easily verify as much. Look at Moorpark, California#Demographics. I know that it is listed as an unincorporated place in the 1950 U.S. Census, but it is not listed here. Nobody has bothered to check since they likely think the list is definitive (and look at the laughable citation provided https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial-census.html - basically impossible for the average editor to verify). So it lingers as unverified or gets deleted by an editor). The other problem is that California will be different from other state projects where the data is included. Patapsco913 (talk) 14:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]"Good evening. Where is the painting of Father Tadeo from? Which museum or convent does it belong to? 83.43.63.253 (talk) 19:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I need a link to the wikipage? Patapsco913 (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, I would need to know the origin of the photo—that is, the physical location of the painting, whether it is in a museum, a convent... My name is Miguel Navarro, and I am writing my thesis on Father Tadeo. 83.43.63.253 (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well. I do not know what you are talking about. Is the photo on a wikipedia page? If so I need a link to the wikipedia page to look at it. There is no page for "Father Tadeo" or "P. Tadeo".Patapsco913 (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- "It's this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Boldames_Ib%C3%A1%C3%B1ez. I'm not sure if you were the one who edited it, which is why I'm asking about the photo and its source. Thank you. Juan Boldames (civil name) 0 P. Juan Tadeo de San Eliseo. 83.43.63.253 (talk) 20:33, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cancer alley. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- You have escalated the edit war. Any more of this and I will report you to WP:AN3 with a request that you be blocked. This material is improper and have have consensus for it. Bon courage (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Actually you have escalated it. I added some information. You made a bold edit and I reverted; and posted on the talk page. You were then supposed to follow protocol and rspond on the talk page and not revert in order to have a civil dialogue. Why not leave the info the page so others may chime in? How can leaving the info in the article harm anything? 18:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:BRD is a general protocol and WP:ONUS is policy. So don't try and WP:WL your way out of it. Bon courage (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- My point exactly. I added info. You reverted. I reverted and posted on the talk page why; and then you reverted and immediately accused me of edit warring. You seem to be the wikilawyer. Why not just discuss your point rather than using Ad Hominems? Now you are editing everything about environmental racism out of the article. Patapsco913 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's BRD, not BRDR. You have now, in the face of objection (i.e. without consensus) added this table four times to the article and are at 3RR. As ONUS states, the requirement to achieve consensus is on the editor who wants to INCLUDE disputed material. You have been warned. If you want more eyes on this matter I suggest you post a query to WT:MED or WP:NORN. Bon courage (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have not added it 4 times; and you have not obtained consensus to remove it. I added it weeks ago and you quietly removed it (rather than revert). I added it recently in a different format and you reverted it. I posted to discuss and then you removed it again rather than discuss. Now you are remving info on environmental racism. You turned this into an argument. This could have been resolved with a simple discussion.18:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is rubbish. If you continue to edit war you will probably be blocked, it's that simple. Bon courage (talk) 18:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- You hurt my feelings.Patapsco913 (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is rubbish. If you continue to edit war you will probably be blocked, it's that simple. Bon courage (talk) 18:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have not added it 4 times; and you have not obtained consensus to remove it. I added it weeks ago and you quietly removed it (rather than revert). I added it recently in a different format and you reverted it. I posted to discuss and then you removed it again rather than discuss. Now you are remving info on environmental racism. You turned this into an argument. This could have been resolved with a simple discussion.18:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's BRD, not BRDR. You have now, in the face of objection (i.e. without consensus) added this table four times to the article and are at 3RR. As ONUS states, the requirement to achieve consensus is on the editor who wants to INCLUDE disputed material. You have been warned. If you want more eyes on this matter I suggest you post a query to WT:MED or WP:NORN. Bon courage (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- My point exactly. I added info. You reverted. I reverted and posted on the talk page why; and then you reverted and immediately accused me of edit warring. You seem to be the wikilawyer. Why not just discuss your point rather than using Ad Hominems? Now you are editing everything about environmental racism out of the article. Patapsco913 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:BRD is a general protocol and WP:ONUS is policy. So don't try and WP:WL your way out of it. Bon courage (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Actually you have escalated it. I added some information. You made a bold edit and I reverted; and posted on the talk page. You were then supposed to follow protocol and rspond on the talk page and not revert in order to have a civil dialogue. Why not leave the info the page so others may chime in? How can leaving the info in the article harm anything? 18:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
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