User talk:Albertpda

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Albertpda (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

This account has been blocked for 8 months as of which I was subjected to the Standard Offer. Now the period has ended so I make this request in seek of an approval unblocking my main account. My policy infringements were firstly warring edit and then using socks due to this account being blocked by an admin. In this case, an user reverted my edits of which I have stated my reasons for those edits. This user (a female) did not make statements on why she did not consent my edits rather just demanded me to do a "consensus" before making edits that remove a large amount of article's content. I don't agree with her because making a consensus required 3 or more users actively participating on. It's only her who contested my edits that moment but the important thing here is:she did not give her own reasons for the contest but instead made vague demand for a "consensus". Somehow she was patronized by this admin nicknamed "DrMies" as my account was blocked for the aftermath's warring edits with her but her account wasn't blocked. So then I have to use socks to make more efficient protests against this unjust action coming from the admin but was repeatedly opposed and tracked down and then came to a point that is no longer salvable. After 8 months, I have got a sufficient grasp. To avoid this conflict from happening again I will have to go to the talk page of the user that reverted my edits to discuss with him/her foremost and, but I did not do it back then so I regretted it. Albertpda (talk) 09:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You say "so then I have to use socks to make more efficient protests against this unjust action". This demonstrates that you do not understand why socking is not acceptable. Further, you are still blaming someone else for your problems rather than taking personal responsibility for your actions. Just Chilling (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

"So then I have to use socks" Well, that pretty much seals the deal. No admin is going to unblock when this user clearly still doesn't remotely get it. Not that it matters at this point, but this user still hasn't addressed lying about the sockpuppetry. Anyway, if I hadn't already reviewed an earlier request, I'd decline this one. --Yamla (talk) 11:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Further unblock discussion as I've already declined once

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It's my first offend because this is the first time I'm blocked. You just keep asking me to state the reasons for my block, now you asked me to do it "fully". I'm not sure how more "fully" could it be according to your demand. Well, I have spoken the reasons, not once but perhaps three or four times already. If according to you, of course I have to "rail" against anyone else if I want to defend myself regardings certain points. This is not a legal pleading, this is an unblock request that has all requirements other admins had asked me to pledge to. If I get on similar circamstances again, I will make smaller and slower changes that is a part of the "big" change, rather than a "big" change that "need a consensus", and it still generated doubts for me, so I will debate it further using the talk page, not the edit tool. It is important that I should be unblocked quickly, and I should not get a TBAN because those pages I suppose to edit desperately need urgent modifications, those modifications are not that big and are required right now, also the pages like Vietnam team's one are at rush hour of possible new edits hence could be easily vandalized, or unsuitable changes just keep on coming hence I could be a useful guard that protect the page. Those are the only pages I can think of that I know what to contribute positively. To sump up, the main thing I regret having done is constantly reverting reverts using the edit tool but not talk pages, for this I will change. Also if one found my words to be some how "agressive" on some occasion, it is because I did not restrain myself during conflict debate very well, but I will try to be less so.Albertpda (talk) 00:37, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As a hint for your next unblock request in six months (if you make one), it is not just "big" changes that require consensus - *all* changes that are contested/reverted require consensus, however large or small they are. And breaking a large change down into a set of smaller ones does not change anything - if the overall change is contested, it needs consensus. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Since I've already declined a previous unblock request, I will observe that any unblock request that seeks to justify sockpuppetry and which appears to blame your problems on another editor's gender cannot succeed.. Acroterion (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Albertpda (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #23760 was submitted on Jan 14, 2019 01:43:07. This review is now closed.


--UTRSBot (talk) 01:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC) [reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Albertpda (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #25916 was submitted on Jul 16, 2019 04:54:24. This review is now closed.


--UTRSBot (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Last trip to the well

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  • Comment: Reading all of the 9+ unblock requests on this page, I think this user is beyond redemption at this point, with an IDHT problem that reaches CIR. To prevent further disruption, I'm going to suggest revoking TP access and email access. Softlavender (talk) 09:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but does this comment qualify as a personal attack?Albertpda (talk) 09:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Given that I fully expect the unblock request above to be declined (I would have done so myself if I hadn't already responded to an earlier appeal) and given that I see no likelihood of you composing a competent or cogent unblock request in the near future, I have removed your talkpage access as suggested by Softlavender. And for the record: no, pointing out that you lack the competence to edit here when you have repeatedly demonstrated that you lack the competence to edit here is not a personal attack. Yunshui  10:23, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Damn. I had such high hopes when I restored TPA. So many trips to the well. Note to next UTRS reviewer-- unless the next ticket adequately addresses the problems, recommend withdrawing that option. When one goes to the well, one must bring a bucket w/o a hole in it. Rhetorical question-- what happens if we run out of unblock reviewers.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 10:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, @Albertpda:, that is a (valid) observation of your content. You have, again, not addressed the reasons for your block. You have, actually, given indication that your disruption would only continue. That you have (again) made a request with content you do not recognize as inappropriate on Wikipedia raises insurmountable CIR issues. You have had far more opportunities to request unblock than we afford most.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 11:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To prevent further time-wasting, I flipped the switch to site ban this editor for repeated sock puppetry and block evasion. Albertpda, please see our policy page about site bans to understand what this means. This change is mostly bureaucractic except that no administrator can unblock you without the permission of the community. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:42, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ban evasion

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This user engaged in ban evasion as Trung tá Moore in February, 2020. --Yamla (talk) 11:08, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed on the Unblock Ticket Request System:

Albertpda (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


UTRS appeal #30123 was submitted on Apr 17, 2020 11:12:52. This review is now closed.


-- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I note the suggestion above to revoke UTRS access, but as it's been quite a long time since then I left it for perhaps one more chance. But I did warn that no request will be considered for at least six months from the latest socking (so not before August 2020), and any further request before then should probably lead to UTRS revocation. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Further ban evasion today, 2020-09-24, as Alodialodi. Albertpda has lost access to UTRS for six months. Their final avenue of appeal is to email arbcom-en@wikimedia.org, which does not require an account. --Yamla (talk) 01:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

N.B. -> UTRS appeal #34912; special:permalink/979880478#UTRS decline --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another premature UTRS request in UTRS appeal #44772. I advised them to wait six months. As they have a hard time determining how long six months is, that'd be 2021-12-26, assuming no more sockpuppetry between now and then. --Yamla (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I modified the block to allow talk page access. Albertpda wishes to request WP:UNBAN. They will post here to confirm this and then I will copy their request to the noticeboard. Alternatively, Albertpda may decide to hold off on making an unban request, in which case they are expected to refrain from any editing of this talk page until they are ready to contest their ban. --Yamla (talk) 15:07, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Albertpda, if you are unable to edit here because you are globally locked, please either respond via the UTRS ticket or send me an email (which I will read but not respond to). You need to specifically indicate you will not edit anywhere other than this page, including on other projects. I will then attempt to get your global lock lifted solely so you can contest this ban on en.wiki. --Yamla (talk) 15:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global lock changed to global block

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Hopefully, you can now edit your talk page for unban request. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to ping @Compassionate727: I have written a message for Compassionate727 in the noticeboard. Please give me a clean start! Albertpda (talk) 09:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I'll expire the ticket. Glad you can edit your talk page. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: I pledge to avoid editing in the area of geography for a period of a year while making at least 1000 good faith non-disruptive edits in other areas. I also pledge to be restricted to a one-revert restriction rule. May you accept it? Albertpda (talk) 10:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you @Deepfriedokra: carry the above reply over? Albertpda (talk) 10:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
carrying over -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: So may you support the appeal with the addition of this condition? Albertpda (talk) 01:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly ping @Deepfriedokra: to carry over. Albertpda (talk) 01:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
carrying -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra:

@Tamzin: Chipmunkdavis says their oppose can be disregarded given the modifications, so there are technically 6 supports vs 1 oppose. The modifications are that I have agreed to a one revert rule restriction, and a topic ban on geography for one year. Spicy doesn't clearly express support or oppose. Getting everyone to agree is too hard. The unban appeal by Wikiuser1314 also have 1 oppose and still pass. Please give me a chance! Albertpda (talk) 23:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it turned out this way. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Deepfriedokra: Another reviewer might well see this as having consensus. So determining consensus is subjective and depends on the user who close the appeal now? Is there any objective policy on this? 
I have read historical unban/unblock requests on the noticeboard and my appeal very well falls under a rough consensus, not a non-consensus. A lot of unban appeals are granted with rough consensus, yet my appeal isn't. Albertpda (talk) 00:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hm. I did misread CMD's final comment. That said, Spicy's meaning was crystal-clear, whether or not he used a boldface "oppose"—I do not see the point in unblocking someone who's likely going to go around indiscriminately blanking articles.—and CMD's wording is essentially to put it in my hands as the closer whether or not I'm comfortable making that deal. And the truth is I'm not. I don't like the idea of an automatically expiring sanction in the main area you've been disruptive in. I think, though, based on this rereading of CMD's comment, I'd be comfortable closing with an unban + 1RR + 1-account restriction + TBAN from geography. You could appeal any of those sanctions after 6 months, but there would be no automatic expiry. Does that work for you? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 00:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tamzin: Yes, I'm comfortable with that. Albertpda (talk) 00:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. I'll give you the advice I always give people in this circumstance: This community likes giving second chances, but it rarely gives third chances. So please make the most of the chance you've been given, and make the people who supported your unban proud that they did. Happy editing. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 00:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's better; welcome back -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban

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Albert, I want to be clear, this is a violation of your ban from "articles or parts of articles that describe a place". Your ban applies to discussion of those articles in other namespaces, not just to editing the articles themselves. The only exception is for mentioning a place in the course of other things, e.g. "John Doe was born in New York".

Please be more careful in the future. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 07:12, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarification. I will be more careful. Albertpda (talk) 11:02, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sincerely apologies if I may by accident stumbled on an article related to geography that I may misinterpreted as of non-geographical or simply because of my negligence. Please tell me so that I will self-revert such edit. Albertpda (talk) 03:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 2024

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Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

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RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wut? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Single account restriction was an unblock condition . . . . -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't it? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DFO: Special:Contributions/Biokob. Checks out behaviorally as well. Sigh. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And those look geography related. . . . . Though the account was created before the unblock. SMDH. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]