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Weaponising discussions

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This use of green inline is being weaponised in diascussion to make it difficult for some users to follow discussion especially where talk pages become assult courses on the senses of individuals, Please remove the colors and use something less harmful like italics. Gnangarra 11:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give examples of this? Largoplazo (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Western_Australia#Excessive_out-of-scope_information_and_SYN_on_Esperance_articles_re_traditional_ownership its also littetred though the history of the page with one particular user using it on subject he no knowledge of to wedge discussion and drive users away. Gnangarra 11:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My perception of it is that the user is addressing specific comments by other users and is using the tag appropriately. Can you explain why you consider this to be weaponization or how the use of the quotes drives users away? What leads you to believe that this is driving users away, or that it's bothering users other than you? I'm sorry for asking so many questions but you stated the situation as though it were obvious and I'm not seeing it.
As for the green text, it looks fine to me, but if you happen to have trouble with it I can see if you can customize their appearance for yourself. Largoplazo (talk) 14:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
green text is the problem, the users has prvious been asked in person to stop using the temple, hie response it has to be fixed here. The user also cherry picks parts of discussion changing the meaning or intent of the questions being raise. Yes that second part is an user issue but the template preventing access is a template issue. Gnangarra 10:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"... has prviously [sic] been asked": by whom? By you? The user is using the template appropriately, for the purpose for which it's intended. You continue to leave it unclear whether lots of people are upset by the user's use of this template and are being "driven away", or only you. If it's other people as well, how do you know they're being "driven away" by it?
Since you're being unspecific and not answering all my questions, let me give you my perception of the situation, and let me know if this is incorrect: You're the only person who's bothered by it, and it isn't because there's anything wrong with the user using a quotation template for the purpose of quoting, it's only because the template displays the text in green and green is, for whatever reason, bothersome to you. Is that it?
In other words, are you asking for the way this template is displayed to be changed for everybody on Wikipedia because green bothers you? Note: If green does bother you, I recognize that there might be a valid sensory reason for that, but it still isn't reasonable to change the template just for you. As I've said, I can show you how to change how it displays for you. Largoplazo (talk) 11:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't work on the mobile app

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On the mobile app, text displays normally: uncolored and sans-serif. Is this a bug in the template or a bug in the app? Where would I file a bug against the app? If it's relevant, I'm using dark mode in the Android app. — W.andrea (talk) 21:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same in iOS app, where |q=yes desn't work either; quite misleading if someone's quoting something with which they disagree, only to have it showing as if it's their own words. NebY (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Same problem here. Is this a bug in the mobile app, or should I be looking into changing the template to apply a style compatible with the app? Uhoj (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

quotation marks and apostrophes

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When writing prose, and there's a need to nest quotations, we have specialized templates (e.g. {{single+double}}) we can use to distinguish apostrophes and quotation marks. For example,

Anthony heard on the subway the other day, "She actually said, 'Oh my god, Beckie, look at her butt.'"

When using a citation template's |quote= parameter, if the text begins or ends with an apostrophe, the citation template also automatically applies that distinguishing spacing, too. For example,

Mix-a-Lot, Sir. "Baby Got Back". Mack Daddy. 'It is so big. She looks like one of those rap guys' girlfriends', she continued.

However, when using this template, combining the nested quoting, we get both punctuations abutting each other with no gap (looking like a triple-tick mark). For example,

She expressed her confusion, elaborating, 'Who understands those rap guys?'

Can such automatic quotation mark-apostrophe-spacing be implemented in this template, too? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 20:26, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The citation templates make this happen with Lua magic, which is above my pay grade. A workaround is to use one of the quote-mark-spacing templates, like this:

She expressed her confusion, elaborating, 'Who understands those rap guys?'

Someone else may have a better answer. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:00, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fourthords: I have made a sandbox version [1][2] with kerning similar to {{citation}}.
For the live template, {{talk quote inline |'Text in apostrophes' |q=yes}} produces: 'Text in apostrophes'
For the sandbox version, {{talk quote inline/sandbox |'Text in apostrophes' |q=yes}} produces: 'Text in apostrophes'
Testing that it only adds the space when needed, {{talk quote inline/sandbox |Text without apostrophes |q=yes}} produces: Text without apostrophes
PrimeHunter (talk) 16:23, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This spacing looks good to me. Do we also want to roll out the size changes inserted by Matma Rex, or is that still in the experimental stage? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I still think the font size changes are a good idea, but the discussion about it at village pump only received one comment (by isaacl) and it was rather lukewarm, so I didn't feel comfortable proposing the change. Matma Rex talk 18:50, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For reference, my responses on the proposed changes starts with one about personal preference, followed by one where I think it's better not to implement the proposed changes. isaacl (talk) 21:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That looks great! Thanks so much! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:23, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 2 September 2025: Error if no text provided

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If no text is provided, the template shouldn't output "Example text"; that should only be used for the example on the template page. Instead it should error:

Error: No text given for quotation (or equals sign used in the actual argument to an unnamed parameter)

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{{{1|Example text}}}
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{{{1|<includeonly>{{error|Error: No text given for quotation (or equals sign used in the actual argument to an unnamed parameter)}}{{main other|[[Category:Pages incorrectly using the talk quote inline template]]}}</includeonly><noinclude>Example text</noinclude>}}}

This also adds a tracking category.

I put this on the sandbox. Test case: Template:Talk quote inline/testcases § Invalid usage

This is based on this edit to {{Quote inline}} by @User:Est. 2021.

— W.andrea (talk) 13:34, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend {{error-small}}, which is a bit less shouty. Also, we now have three different proposed changes in the sandbox. See the sections above about font sizes and quotation mark spacing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend {{error-small}}, which is a bit less shouty.

Why's that? Shouty seems fine to me since an article shouldn't be saved with an empty {{Talk quote inline}}. — W.andrea (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See the sections above about font sizes ...

There isn't a section about font sizes above, so you must mean the one that Matma Rex linked: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 222 § Template:Talk quote inline and font size, specifically their comment they linked. — W.andrea (talk) 15:50, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]