Talk:Hyeseong Kim

Requested move 24 February 2025

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The result of the move request was: Moved Kim Hye-seong, no consensus on Hyeseong Kim. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 05:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]


– Ambiguous with each other, and with the individuals at the dabpage Kim Hye-song, all of which are named 김혜성. 162 etc. (talk) 18:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:04, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the first move. I don't think it is likely someone searching "Hyeseong Kim" wouldn't want the MLB player, as it's not a very common way of rendering a Korean name. Even outside of that, on Namuwiki "김혜성" is the MLB player and "김혜성(배우)" is the actor. Weak support the second one, I don't particularly care but it wouldn't hurt. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the first one. Looking at the official roster, this person is listed as "Hyeseong Kim", and that is the way other English sources refer to him, so English Wikipedia should match. second one seems fine so support — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruebach (talkcontribs) 15:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support both moves. I think it's likely that South Koreans who know of the baseball player and are familiar with how most South Koreans are named on the English Wikipedia would search for "Kim Hye-seong", expecting to find him. The name ordering isn't sufficient for disambiguating here. seefooddiet (talk) 18:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose moving the baseball player. I don't know why he is being called "Hyeseong" in English as opposed to "Hye-Seong", but he is, and that's unusual enough that I don't think there's much chance for confusion. There's also the matter of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Although premature, the baseball player is beginning his career on one of the biggest teams in MLB, and if you look at ko.wikipedia (which does have disambiguation), he is, as of recent times, getting much more than the actor. I imagine once the season begins, this will be pretty consistently the case too. --Quiz shows 19:15, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To my knowledge, most current South Koreans don't actually put hyphens in their names. That's more of 20th-century practice by Westerners writing about Korea that has stuck around in the Western press and academia. Per WP:COMMONNAME, the practice sticks on Wikipedia. Also the common practice is to not capitalize the second particle of the name after the hyphen. seefooddiet (talk) 20:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support both moves - I'm not convinced that differing romanizations of the same name are distinctive enough here. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:47, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Olympics, WikiProject Korea, WikiProject Biography, and WikiProject Baseball have been notified of this discussion. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: Needs more thorough consensus on whether to move Hyeseong Kim or not Jeffrey34555 (talk) 03:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, these are the same name, and name order and the use of hyphens are not rigid or unique. Assuming neither are the clear primary topic, it would be very easy for either romanization above to refer to either person. CMD (talk) 03:50, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support these are all the same name and should be disambiguated. RachelTensions (talk) 04:12, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - first move per Nohomersryan and Quiz shows. Strong Support for the 2nd move. While the romanization differences aren't enough to distinguish that much, I do think that the baseball player is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over the actor. The baseball player won the Golden Glove Award four times in a row, versus the actor who's only had two leading roles according to his English wiki article. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 09:30, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]