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Happy Adminship upgrade
[edit]I've edited {{Happy Adminship}} so that it now automatically retrieves the year someone became an admin if it is listed on the Birthday Calendar (like this), and mentions the anniversary number if so (e.g. "happy fourth anniversary"). Many admins on the Birthday Calendar have not listed the year, so as we go through the calendar this year, I'd encourage adding them! (Courtesy pinging @The Herald as I know you're active in this area.) Cheers, Sdkb talk 15:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sdkb, Thanks a lot. Can something similar be done for first edit too, if possible? I'm not good with codes. Thanks. — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @The Herald, done for that, and for {{Happy Bureaucratship}} and {{Happy Birthday}} as well!
- There are many years to be added on the calendar, and despite my edit to the instructions, they won't happen naturally because people tend to just copy what's there already. So I hope that Birthday Committee members can add the years as we cycle through the calendar this year — once we've done that, we'll be good to go for the future! Cheers, Sdkb talk 05:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
"Wrong birthday"
[edit]Hi there, thank you for the birthday wishes each year. It's a very kind gesture. I received the good wishes a few days ago and wanted to remove myself from your 3 October calendar as the date isn't right; I had a prior account that Arbcom agreed to courtesy-vanish when I ran for admin. Anyway, I can't find myself in your calendar and am thus puzzled why I received the message. My "true birthday" is 5 August 2007, by the way. I'd be happy to receive messages on that day. Schwede66 05:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, it was from Adr28382 as per the contribs page. I can't find the entry either. But I'll add yours to August 5th gladly. Thanks. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:27, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Schwede66, I wished you for your first edit day which is on 4th October. I am sorry for being one day late (I wished you on 5th October). I don't remember where I got your entry from. It seems that your entry has been removed or is missing. Anyways, thank you for pointing out your confusion.. Adr28382 (talk) 05:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Oldest 'living' Wikipedians
[edit]Is there a way of identifying the longest serving Wikipedians (ie persisting contributors)?
Wikipedia:Twenty Year Society (and the yet to be established 25 Year Society) will contain some of the possible candidates (but not everybody will know of or apply to join the Society/ies. Jackiespeel (talk) 12:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
Adminship anniversaries
[edit]Please reconsider how you're doing adminship anniversary notifcations. @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: just posted a happy adminship anniversary notice to Bbb23's talk page with this edit without apparently having any knowledge that Bbb23 was just summarily dismissed from being an admin (see Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Bbb23) and de-adminned [1] just two weeks ago. I know this wasn't intended as such, but this was a rather heartless move. Before anyone adds such a notice to someone's talk page, they should be first checking to see if they are in fact an administrator anymore. I've removed Bbb23 from the list. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am very sorry that the move seemed heartless - it was not intended to; the whole point of this is to make editors happy and smile. However, I would like to note that it does not say anywhere in the Birthday Committee section that you cannot wish an Adminship Anniversary to someone who is no longer an admin - it is about reflecting the achievement, not necessarily whether they are still an admin or not. Regardless, I was under the impression that people were removed from the list if they no longer were an admin anyway DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
it does not say anywhere in the Birthday Committee section that you cannot wish an Adminship Anniversary to someone who is no longer an admin
– Pretty tone-deaf, that. EEng 02:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)- I am sorry but how on earth is that "tone deaf"..? I think that is pretty rude to suggest. I am not saying "Let's wish it to everyone who does not want to", I am saying that the intent of the birthday message is to celebrate someone's achievement regardless of whether they are an admin or not. I completely understand that it may not be the best idea to wish it to someone who isn't an admin anymore but I was just specifying that this particular Wikiproject doesn't specify if the messages are for current users or not. I do think suggest that me pointing out a fact is tone deaf is really rude to be honest, especially considering that the entire point of this project is to to make members smile and celebrate their achievements and birthdays, and yes there may be errors at times but we shouldn't be rebrimanded to this level... DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I found three upcoming this month who aren't, those being Cyphoidbomb (July 26), Joe Decker (July 29), and Longhair (July 31). I understand it's the achievement. But, I think it would be a good idea to add into the procedure somewhere that it should be checked to see if a person is still an administrator and if not (importantly) why they are no longer an administrator. Wikipedia:Former administrators is helpful for this. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: If it helps, here's a list of users you've sent "Happy Adminship Anniversary!" to (based on the edit summary) starting from 2024-10-19T01:38:10Z who are no longer admins. — DVRTed (Talk) 03:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @DVRTed Hey, please don't do this. You just pinged all of these people, including me, a retired admin, and Bbb23, the individual this entire section started about. -- ferret (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Got a notification I was mentioned here; having read through this discussion I have to ask why I'm listed as a former administrator? As far as I ever knew, I've never held the title. :/ I'm just sitting here, watching the wheels go round and round... (talk) 03:40, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- oh shit, I accidentally pinged everyone. — DVRTed (Talk) 03:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- No problem; thanks for the sleeper promotion to a former admin! :D I'm just sitting here, watching the wheels go round and round... (talk) 03:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Wilhelmina Will Welp.
As far as I ever knew, I've never held the title
It was a false positive because of this edit: Special:Diff/1261068063. I was searching for edits with the summary "Happy Adminship Anniversary!" — DVRTed (Talk) 03:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)- Ah! I looked back up my talk page and yes, that was what my birthday message said. I now remember thinking that was peculiar when I got it... I'm just sitting here, watching the wheels go round and round... (talk) 05:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Wilhelmina Will Welp.
- I am not trying to be rude here – but what was the point of that? To humiliate me even further? If you go through most of these you can see that other editors also wished these people Happy Adminship anniversary too. I understand that I/we may have faltered and I have apologised, but this was unnecessary – all I/we have tried to do is spread joy through this little Wikiproject DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:06, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives, can you not default to bad faith assumptions? I'm giving you, or anyone who sends adminship anniversary messages, a list to look at for the rest of the year to make sure it's appropriate to send the message--depending on the cause of the relevant user's loss of admin bit. — DVRTed (Talk) 07:03, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am not defaulting to be bad faith assumption, I was simply asking a question. The fact that it was my edits and no one else's is why I asked. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:28, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives, can you not default to bad faith assumptions? I'm giving you, or anyone who sends adminship anniversary messages, a list to look at for the rest of the year to make sure it's appropriate to send the message--depending on the cause of the relevant user's loss of admin bit. — DVRTed (Talk) 07:03, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Taking two names I recognize, TonyBallioni and Dank relinquished their administrative privileges voluntarily. As Hammersoft noted, the key factor is the circumstances behind the change in user rights. isaacl (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- No problem; thanks for the sleeper promotion to a former admin! :D I'm just sitting here, watching the wheels go round and round... (talk) 03:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Incidentally, I raised the issue of inappropriate admin anniversary notifications back in 2020. Checking pending or in progress arbitration cases and recall petitions is another task I suggest should be done before sending a notification. isaacl (talk) 06:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
I want to make it clear; I was not calling out DaniloDaysOfOurLives nor should anyone else. The point, irrespective of any particular editor, is that this system is not taking into account potential realities of these wishes. Something needs to be done to prevent this from happening again. I really don't want to use a nuclear option of removing every single non-admin from the list of anniversaries. The aspect of why is critical, and needs to be addressed. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:09, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- As one of the no-longer-admins who received the anniversary notification, I'd like to thank DaniloDaysOfOurLives for his good wishes and appreciate the sentiment. Personally I don't think it makes much sense any more to wish no-longer-admins a happy adminship anniversary. Other no-longer-admins might see things differently. That said, I agree with Hammersoft that congratulating someone who was de-adminned for cause should be avoided. Huon (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- As another of the no-longer admins, I also wanted to thank DaniloDaysOfOurLives for the sentiment. Agree that there's some cases where where messages like this might be unwelcome, but as a sample of one I was happy to get this friendly note. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Opt-out
[edit]How can one opt-out of this effort? I've never been particularly fond of it and am not interested in it in the future in my semi-retired status. -- ferret (talk) 13:33, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- You can remove yourself from the list if you go to the specific days DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Ferret:, I've removed you from the list of anniversaries. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Renames
[edit]How are renames factored in? If someone renames twice (as I know most people have been on these lists forever) then there’s no indication of their current account being on the list and you’ll just have an unregistered user. EF5 11:51, 15 September 2025 (UTC)