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Sameerahmadsp (talk) 06:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sameerahmadsp: That is something that can be requested on-wiki and doesn't need private communication. WP:RFPP is the venue to request both increases and decreases in page protection. However, after reviewing the protection history of Draft:Ali Al Suleiman I have some doubts in whether this is a worthwhile effort. Tagging in Ohnoitsjamie who was the protecting administrator. Writing your email in plural (we) seems odd. Is your account being used by more than one person, Sameerahmadsp? TheSandDoctor Talk 06:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review of the Draft page above and for your efforts in safeguarding the integrity of Wikipedia.
I’d like to apologize for any confusion caused in my previous message, particularly regarding the use of plural phrasing like “we.” It’s simply a manner of expression I’m accustomed to, and I can confirm this account is operated solely by me.
As for the draft, I fully understand the concerns around promotional tone and the rationale for protection. However, I kindly ask for your support in reconsidering the possibility of recreating the draft with improved neutrality and full adherence to Wikipedia's editorial guidelines.
The individual featured in the draft is currently globally locked, which removes the concern of self-promotion. Moreover, we now have over three reliable sources in English, in addition to Turkish and Arabic sources, which help establish notability in accordance with Wikipedia’s standards.
I’d greatly appreciate any guidance you can offer—or if feasible, a temporary lifting of the protection so I may prepare a revised draft that meets all policy requirements.
With respect and appreciation, Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sameerahmadsp: To start, how about you create what you're thinking of in your sandbox at User:Sameerahmadsp/sandbox and then we can take a look and go from there? I don't want to unprotect the draft location without input from the protecting administrator here. I would also note that just because one account is locked doesn't in theory prevent someone from creating others. We've seen it countless times before. TheSandDoctor Talk 07:09, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:11, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
check again please Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:17, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sameerahmadsp: You haven't created anything in your sandbox and the protecting administrator has been pinged and will get here when they do. Patience is required. TheSandDoctor Talk 07:19, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
can you add the sources please ? Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is it reasonable for a page to exist for someone who has no known reliable sources? Some of the listed references include obscure blogs, and many of the links don’t even work. Isn’t that rather strange?
Meanwhile, the draft for this person with clear local and regional recognition—is denied, despite having more than ten credible sources in English, Turkish, and Arabic that support his notability. Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. That is not a helpful argument to make and it won't get you anywhere. If you see other articles without sources there are two routes forward:
  1. see if you can find reliable sources to add to it (WP:SOFIXIT principle) or
  2. if you can't find any, nominate it for deletion.
Just because some stuff exists without sources etc. doesn't mean we should add more in the same boat. I'm not going to create the draft for you in your sandbox as I know nothing about the topic. If you want to create it, I have given you a route forward that includes adding whatever sources you believe help demonstrate notability. Start in your sandbox. In writing this I reread your email and if you want the existing content restored, we're going to have to wait on Ohnoitsjamie to come back online. Based on the three sources you included in the email, only 2 of them are new. I am not particularly convinced but will defer to Ohnoitsjamie here. Usually in such instances though it is better to start from scratch. TheSandDoctor Talk 07:29, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response and for clarifying the route forward.
I understand the relevance of WP:OTHERSTUFF and appreciate the principle behind it. My previous comparison was not intended as justification for inclusion, but rather to highlight inconsistency in how notability is sometimes assessed—particularly in cases where well-sourced subjects are being denied while other less-supported articles remain.
That said, I’m happy to take your advice and begin drafting the article in my sandbox. I’ll work on compiling and presenting the sources in a clear and policy-aligned way to help demonstrate the subject’s notability.
Regarding the restoration of the earlier draft, I understand it’s up to Ohnoitsjamie, and I’ll wait for their input. I do believe the additional sources (including two new ones you noted) strengthen the case, and I’ll continue refining the draft accordingly.
Thanks again for the guidance. I’ll proceed with a fresh start in line with your recommendations. Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:32, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a political topic—we're discussing an individual who has received extensive and in-depth coverage. We have three Turkish sources published in English, along with broad media coverage in the Turkish press. Additionally, there are three Arabic sources and three Turkish sources from well-known newspapers.
Would you be kind enough to do me a favor and help add the English-language sources Sameerahmadsp (talk) 07:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry that your time was wasted by this prolific sockpuppeteer. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:26, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ohnoitsjamie: I had a feeling something was up for reasons. TheSandDoctor Talk 16:19, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Check User request

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Hi @TheSandDoctor,

User:ShreyanaviAadhya Potential Sockpuppet / Meatpuppet trying to create an article about banned user Hanshi Shaswat Kumar, has recently disclosed on their talk page that they are associated and working for the banned user. User is actively resurrecting/recreating an article which was speedily deleted, they are aiming to do this via redirection Draft:Senkoukai Karate Draft:Karate India. A previous confirmed sockpuppet in this fashion somehow moved the article into the mainspace bypassing AFC.

I have only just noticed this account ShreyanaviAadhya.

On the archived Sockpuppet Investigation it redirects to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerks and says to contact an SPI Clerk and your account is listed and also the latest person to edit that particular investigation. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HanshiShaswatKumar/Archive

Apologies if I have requested this wrong but I am concerned as users associated to that particular banned user often start putting promotional vandalism into other pages and it spreads quickly.

Many thanks, NottinghamNinja (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NottinghamNinja! I'm not actually a CheckUser but you're right that I'm a clerk. On WP:SPI there are instructions on how to open an investigation under the "How to open an investigation" heading. If you believe that account is HanshiShaswatKumar, you would put HanshiShaswatKumar in the box in that section, click submit, and fill out the form (including your evidence and the new account or accounts you believe related) and save the edit. TheSandDoctor Talk 12:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @TheSandDoctor! I will try and follow that. NottinghamNinja (talk) 12:47, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NottinghamNinja I'm glad that worked! Please see the feedback on the submission in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HanshiShaswatKumar. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Me too @TheSandDoctor! Thank you again for your guidance :) NottinghamNinja (talk) 10:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious
Eight years!

Thank you today for Red (Taylor Swift album), introduced (in 2021): "With the recording of this album, America's Sweetheart experimented and blurred the line between country and pop, producing what is widely considered one of the best albums of the 2010s; the next album in her chronology turned her into a fully-fledged pop machine."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Rustymarvinsarte (03:57, 23 July 2025)

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How to make link for wiki page i edited --Rustymarvinsarte (talk) 03:57, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rustymarvinsarte: Please see this interactive tutorial; it should help you learn to edit etc. For creating Wikilinks between articles, please see Help:Link. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:54, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from YerlanAimuratov (11:13, 24 July 2025)

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Hello! I would like to add some information to the existing DART mission wiki article, providing proper references to relevant scientific articles. What is the right algorithm to do that? --YerlanAimuratov (talk) 11:13, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @YerlanAimuratov:! I am admittedly not sure what you mean by the "right algorithm" to add information to a Wikipedia article. Please see this interactive guide to show you the basics of editing Wikipedia and let me know if you have any further questions. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:32, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from The nectar possum on Lahore University of Management Sciences (12:31, 24 July 2025)

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Hello, i am nectar possum, how do i get a citation? --The nectar possum (talk) 12:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi The nectar possum! I want to assist you with this but I don't understand the question, admittedly. What do you mean by "get a citation" in this context? Do you mean that you want to add a citation (reference) to the article? If so, please see this guide to referencing. If you are wondering more about how to learn the basics of editing Wikipedia, please see this interactive guide. If I am totally off-base on both of those, please clarify what you're asking and I will do my best to assist. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:35, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, i meant i want to add a citation The nectar possum (talk) 17:45, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Ffywindia (05:37, 25 July 2025)

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Good morning! I hope you're doing well. I’m excited to begin working on a Wikipedia page for our organization Foundation for Youth Web, which is one of the largest youth-based organizations. But I’m a bit confused about where to start and how to properly execute the idea according to Wikipedia’s guidelines.

Could you kindly guide me on the first steps I should take? Your mentorship and advice would really help me move forward confidently.

Thank you in advance! --Ffywindia (talk) 05:37, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good day, Ffywindia! It is a pleasure to meet you and I am glad that you reached out and want to do this properly. I have a few simple steps for you to complete:
  1. First up: your current username isn't compliant with username policy based on your explanation here since Ffyw = Foundation for Youth Web. This must be dealt with immediately. Usernames must represent you as an individual, not a company/group/organization. Your account must also only be used by you. To know what usernames are available, search in Special:CentralAuth; if there are no results, it's available. You can either file a username change request here or tell me the username (on this page) you would like yours changed to and I can make it happen.
  2. If you are paid to edit Wikipedia you must disclose it. If you are doing this in your own individual capacity (not paid), you must disclose your conflict of interest with Foundation for Youth Web. (The process is slightly different but only complete whichever is most relevant).
  3. Please complete this interactive tutorial to show you a bit more about how Wikipedia functions.
I know that this can be a lot to take in, so once this is complete I'll share the rest of the guidance specific to wanting to create an article for Foundation for Youth Web. If you have any questions, please let me know. TheSandDoctor Talk 14:45, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about inappropriate user names

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@TheSandDoctor Hello. I saw a recent new user you blocked here, and had a question about reporting this. I have started mentoring new users and sometimes see user names that are not appropriate. I sometimes let them know about this, sharing the username policy with them, though am wondering if there is a tag or something that should also be put onto the page to alert admins about this? None of the options in Twinkle seem to be the right warning, but using this one you blocked as an example, what, if anything, should have been done to report this when we see it? Thank you. FULBERT (talk) 13:06, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) If you feel a username requires immediate admin intervention, you can report it to the "Usernames for admin attention" (UAA) board. UAA should be one of the options under the "ARV" section of Twinkle. There are some more instructions at the top of that page for other alternatives, as well. Writ Keeper  13:31, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Writ Keeper! What Writ Keeper said, FULBERT. TheSandDoctor Talk 02:47, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @TheSandDoctor and @Writ Keeper! FULBERT (talk) 16:54, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Forencisits (09:50, 29 July 2025)

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Hello, do we have to use references from web archive? or is it better to use? --Forencisits (talk) 09:50, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Forencisits: I am not entirely sure what you mean. Online sources are nice because they are easily verifiable by others, but offline sources are acceptable (full stop) and even dead links provided that there is a web archive version of them available. Please see WP:REFB for getting started info. TheSandDoctor Talk 04:41, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from KyleTheFox18 (18:09, 1 August 2025)

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Hi SandDoctor, I am new to editing and made my first edit very recently. It was an addition to the page for "Da Coconut Nut" about the viral video, which I thought could be relevant. Is it okay to cite Reddit and YouTube in cases like these? (i looked up reddit as a source on Wikipedia and it said it was not to be used i think) these were some of the only sources I could find. also, I am worried I gave too much weight to the recent copyright strike on the video. that is major enough to warrant significant elaboration, or might i have given too much weight to it? I am a pretty big newbie alas lol --KyleTheFox18 (talk) 18:09, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The edit was reverted (and the reason seems valid) so I assume referencing Reddit or YouTube is unacceptable even when they are the only sources, unacceptable to the same level as original research? KyleTheFox18 (talk) 20:00, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@KyleTheFox18: I am sorry that I somehow missed this. I thought that I had responded. Generally they are not considered reliable sources as they are self-published. That page should help explain the caveats around their use. Again, apologies for not responding. I could've sworn I did so I am genuinely surprised... TheSandDoctor Talk 00:43, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
sorry, I did not see this either! thank you for the response. I will read up on that article. KyleTheFox18 (talk) 19:15, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's alright! I know the feeling haha. I could've sworn I typed out a response the day you messaged but came across this Saturday and didn't see my reply and was like "what?!". I guess I accidentally closed the tab rather than hitting "Reply" or something. Oh well. I hope that helps! If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I do generally try to get back to folks within a day or two, sometimes sooner. I am rather busy offline these days and we do this in our free time anyway . I used to have a lot more time like...5-8 years ago. That is when most of my contributions happened. How times change... TheSandDoctor Talk 04:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion review for Black Menace

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of Black Menace. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Nighfidelity (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nighfidelity: I see that this was closed before I had the chance to respond so replying here to remain accountable, but I just wanted to note that DRV isn't necessary for moving a draft years later to a previously deleted article title where a SALT doesn't apply. While DRV is a listed alternative if a title was salted, the best first choice of venue would probably be WP:RFUP or the salting admin's talk page asking for assistance to promote the draft. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:49, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from TriadMagnetics (20:55, 11 August 2025)

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Hi,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfbox

I'm not sure how to make this edit, but there is currently false information in this article which emplies that molydenum is no longer used in the manufacture of Triad's A-11J A-12J. Although the material is regulated, it is still very much used. We source our lamination material from Carpenter and you can see the alloy contains molydenum: www.carpentertechnology.com/alloy-finder/hymu-80. So the A-11J and A-12J that we manufacture today are every bit the same as they were pre-1974. Not sure how to correct the information and not appear to be self-promoting. I just want to correct the incorrect information. Thx! --TriadMagnetics (talk) 20:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TriadMagnetics: I removed the year as it wasn't supported by the sources present, but I took it as meaning that the original Wolfboxes were what were only made until 1974. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:11, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. 66.173.120.139 (talk) 01:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from WodenEmrys (00:09, 12 August 2025)

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There is a lot of information, but I literally signed up to add "Acapella Metal" with Van Canto as an example to the genres of metal wiki page. It's missing genres. I wouldn't think adding ACapella Metal to the list would be difficult, but how exactly would I do it? --WodenEmrys (talk) 00:09, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@WodenEmrys: Are you talking about adding "Acapella metal" to the "infobox" at the top-right of the Van Canto article? If so, genres linked should have their own articles and, sadly, there is currently no Wikipedia article for "Apacapella metal". It is also preferential to aim for staying general in infobox genres as outlined under the documentation's "genre" heading. The example the documentation gives is to choose "hip hop" over, say, "East Coast hip hop". The fact that the infobox genres cover acapella and power metal probably renders this exercise moot. Are there any other genres that you believe missing? If so, are they already mentioned in the body of the article itself? If not, do you have any sources for them? TheSandDoctor Talk 03:26, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Yennavo (13:10, 12 August 2025)

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Hello! I've modified the article on Ashmina Ranjit and believe that the message: 'This article contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information' is no longer needed. Request your advice on whether it can be deleted now. Thank you! --Yennavo (talk) 13:10, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Yennavo: I've looked and agree with you. Thank you for your contributions! I've removed the tag. There is only one tag left to deal with. It can be fixed by finding other articles on Wikipedia where it would be reasonable/suitable to link to the article on Ashmina so that it is no longer an orphaned article (meaning currently no articles link to it). TheSandDoctor Talk 16:08, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @TheSandDoctor! I just realised that I missed linking correctly to the Nepalese Civil War which you fixed. I’ll try to be more thorough next time! Yennavo (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Yennavo: And with this edit you've made it no longer an orphaned article. I've removed the last tag on it. Thank you!! TheSandDoctor Talk 12:46, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]