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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your assistance and outstanding work today! livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:42, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Livelikemusic! Even though mistaken blocks are rare, they do happen, and I've personally mistakenly blocked another editor in the past after mixing up two of my browser tabs. Please keep up the excellent anti-vandalism work. — Newslinger talk 21:49, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, thank you. I, at first, thought it was the sock trying to play it off as me (which they did, anyways), and then realised, "Oh fuck. This happened"! Haha. Accidents happen. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:52, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I suspect some major sock-puppetry happening on a page I am currently providing a major edit to (with {{in use}} displayed; would you be able to take a look for me? livelikemusic (TALK!) 19:23, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I've semi-protected the article After Hours til Dawn Tour for 4 days. Please feel free to request re-protection if the disruption continues. — Newslinger talk 19:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! I appreciate it. I get it can be frustrating when major edits happen to a page after a while, but in truth, they are needed (especially after I raised concerns of Verifiability on the article's talk page), and then got accused of being "too strict" on sourced content. I thought that was policy? livelikemusic (TALK!) 19:34, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Livelikemusic, I do have to warn you that your reverts on that article do not necessarily qualify for the exceptions in WP:3RRNO. While there is clearly one editor who used multiple IP addresses to revert your edits before creating an account, their editing pattern is too vague at this point for me to connect them with a previously blocked user. I know it can be challenging to make a major edit to a page about a popular tour, but drafting the edits in a user sandbox might be an alternative that leads to less conflict on the article page itself. — Newslinger talk 19:47, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect they may not be a previous sock, but a current user under a new name to not get their main account blocked — as the edit they keep returning is the one they primarily edited. But that is why I am now doing edits in batches (which I hate), especially since the page seems to freeze when right-clicking (and has since "Templates in use" changed to {{Div col}}. livelikemusic (TALK!) 19:50, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They are now just flat-out harassing me on my talk page. Can anything be done at this point? I suspect this to be "An o niem ja" as the way in which they write (continued use of "bro", etc) is giving WP:DUCK of each other. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked Frenzy26441 (talk · contribs) indefinitely. If there is solid evidence that these accounts are related, you are welcome to present it in a SPI report. One word of advice possibly unrelated to this case: it can be annoying to deal with repeated sockpuppetry from the same individual, but in SPI reports, I recommend giving at least a little more information than a link to WP:DUCK, because not every administrator who sees the report will be familiar with that particular individual. — Newslinger talk 21:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course; in between exhaustive edits (right-click freezes page—is this across Wikipedia, or a me issue?), I have also been collecting evidence of edit comparisons via talk pages from the accounts, etc. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't seem to be experiencing that technical issue on my end. Try a different browser? — Newslinger talk 21:38, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just need to be careful, when editing (especially on that page), to not right-click anything. Thank goodness for keyboard keys and tabs. livelikemusic (TALK!) 21:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Skitash

Please move User:Kurê_Kerê to User:Skitash as it looks like that the move page vandalism was done by User:AmedDestan. Untamed1910 (talk) 20:10, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Untamed1910, it looks like Lofty abyss beat me to it. The user page has been moved back. Thank you for reporting this. — Newslinger talk 20:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

page moving

Hello.Could you Please move the article (Sureshjan, Isfahan) to (Soroushjan)? the article should be linked to (سروشجان) in persian wikipedia. Jumberidze (talk) 18:54, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jumberidze, you can actually move the page yourself by following the instructions at Help:How to move a page. Please try it out and let me know if you run into any problems. Interwiki linking is done through Wikidata, and I have corrected the interwiki link to fa:سروشجان for you by making the appropriate edit to d:Q5865825. You can find more information about how to use Wikidata at d:Wikidata:Introduction. — Newslinger talk 21:46, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tried some times but system doesn't move.Jumberidze (talk) 06:34, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is indeed a small problem, and I didn't look carefully enough when I first responded; sorry about that. The Soroushjan page title is currently a redirect to the Sureshjan article, and Wikipedia does not let you directly move a page to another title that already has a page history. To carry out the move, please submit a move request by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves § Requesting technical moves for requesting an uncontroversial technical request. In the request, you can ask the page mover to swap the locations of the Sureshjan, Isfahan and Soroushjan pages and then, after the swap, make the new Sureshjan, Isfahan page a redirect to Soroushjan. — Newslinger talk 10:45, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please request?Jumberidze (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jumberidze, I'll help you write the request this time. Here is what it should look like:

{{subst:RMassist|Sureshjan, Isfahan|Soroushjan|reason=Please swap the pages [[Sureshjan, Isfahan]] and [[Soroushjan]], and then make [[Sureshjan, Isfahan]] a redirect to [[Soroushjan]].}}

To post this request, go to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests and then click on the blue button labeled "Add a new request". Copy and paste the request code to the end of that section (without adding a bullet point or your signature), and save the page. — Newslinger talk 11:57, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:CNN#Template:Press_BRD

If you have an opinion, please join. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:11, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I've shared my thoughts in the discussion without taking an explicit position. — Newslinger talk 22:27, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strikeout

Hi. Please note that strikethrough has to be applied individually per paragraph otherwise the page is listed as having lint errors . I fixed one of the pages that you edited and partially fixed another. There are several others still to do. -- 92.18.76.185 (talk) 00:08, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've fixed the remaining Special:LintErrors/misnested-tag errors on Talk:Die Linke at Special:Diff/1310966142 and on Talk:Charlie Kirk at Special:Diff/1310967038. I'll use the 2017 wikitext editor (which has a keyboard shortcut for striking text) from now on for striking long comments until I get around to making a user script for this. — Newslinger talk 16:01, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I extended the strikethrough in one paragraph to reach the end of that paragraph. -- 92.18.76.185 (talk) 16:11, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for fixing that. — Newslinger talk 16:14, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your script will find a lot of use. :-) -- 92.18.76.185 (talk) 17:10, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It will take a while to correct over 200,000 errors. I'll let you know when I make progress on the script. — Newslinger talk 17:19, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A double barnstar for you!

	Two Admin's barnstars
	Jesus Christ. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:36, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

	Thank you a million for your detailed meatpuppetry analysis. You have single-handedly completed the equivalent of an ArbCom case. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:38, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, ToBeFree! The previous conversations about the meatpuppetry in this topic area were based more on intuition than evidence, so I'm glad that the additional data shows a clearer picture of the situation. — Newslinger talk 17:52, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto'ing ToBeFree above - many, many thanks for your efforts here. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 00:43, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Daniel! I'm always willing to help with the administrative backlogs when I have the chance. — Newslinger talk 21:10, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that the SPI should be merged with Fixer archive because of the double hyphen.[1][2][3] Morbidthoughts (talk) 00:17, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Morbidthoughts, I did notice that, but decided against requesting a merge because FixerFixerFixer consistently used two hyphens without spaces around them, while Slacker13 tended to place spaces around their double hyphens. The separation of the FixerFixerFixer SPI and the Slacker13 SPI means that any future report should be filed under the investigation page that most strongly matches a user's behavioral pattern. Regardless of the page that the report is filed under, any evidence that links the reported user to FixerFixerFixer and/or Slacker13 will be taken into consideration due to the closely related nature of these accounts. — Newslinger talk 06:59, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Royalspage (06:54, 15 September 2025)

Note: Royalspage's mentor JavaHurricane is away.

hello, my self Ayush so I want to create a fresh page on a dynasty, so can u help me to create........ --Royalspage (talk) 06:54, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Royalspage, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. What is the name of the article you would like to create? I recommend reviewing Help:Your first article to first determine whether a new article is the best way to cover the subject. If a new article is indeed appropriate, then I recommend using the article wizard to create a draft about the subject.

After reviewing your talk page, I see that two of your articles have been moved to draft space (Draft:Bahubalendra Chalukya and Draft:Machamara) because the sources cited in them were not enough to show that the article subjects meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. I read the articles, and I need to ask you this: did you use a large language model, such as an AI chatbot, to help you write these articles? — Newslinger talk 21:30, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, I did not use any Large language model Royalspage (talk) 06:59, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

if possible, can u edit those drafts , Bahubalendra Chalukya and Machamara for publish Royalspage (talk) 07:00, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Royalspage, unfortunately, I am not familiar enough with the subject matter to significantly improve these drafts, and I also do not have access to many of the cited sources. As the reviewer noted, some of these citations (e.g. "Local family records / genealogies of the Bahubalendra family — these may be private or unpublished manuscripts or oral tradition" and "Oral Tradition and Records of Bahubalendra Family and Other Royal families" in Draft:Machamara) do not satisfy the verifiability policy, as these sources are not "published" and the citations are too vague for a reader to verify. Your drafts need to cite the names of the actual books or documents from which you obtained the information to write the drafts with (as well as the chapter names and page numbers, if possible), and these citations need to be specific enough so that anyone with access to the sources could verify the information they are cited for.

Additionally, I can see that both Draft:Machamara and Draft:Bahubalendra Chalukya were clearly copied and pasted into Wikipedia. I have a hard time believing that the drafts were not LLM-generated because the content is unverifiable with the provided citations, and the drafts are written in a style that differs significantly from the writing style you are using in your comments. — Newslinger talk 14:17, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to handle large scale LLM misuse going forward

Should we bring them to your/another admin's talk page, post them on the WT:AIC page and tag you/another admin, or bring them to ANI? For example this latest situation is still unhandled.

Also, thank you for the support on these cases! NicheSports (talk) 15:26, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NicheSports, I'm just one editor, so I think we should plan this with the other WikiProject members at WT:AIC § How should we be proceeding regarding people with hundreds/thousands of edits made with AI?. I'll contribute an idea there shortly. Thank you for staying alert when these cases show up. — Newslinger talk 15:33, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Newslinger there is a case that requires admin attention. Can you look into it or do I have to take it to ANI? This user continued to misuse LLMs ([4], [5], [6]) after receiving multiple warnings [7][8] about unsourced and LLM-generated content. I then gave them a final warning [9], which they responded to with an LLM and then proceeded to do this [10]. I gave them a second final warning about it [11] and invited them to my talk page to discuss ways to contribute to wikipedia without LLMs. Their first message on my talk page [12] was without LLMs (good) but then after I responded, they responded to me using an LLM again [13], which they then denied doing when I asked. They then made this edit [14], which I don't know was LLM-generated or not, but contains claims that are unsupported by the provided source, which is also not reliable whatsoever. NicheSports (talk) 22:26, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NicheSports, thanks for bringing this up. I wrote Iamnilesh0321 a message at User talk:Iamnilesh0321 § Citations and LLM misuse, and I hope they take our advice. — Newslinger talk 00:55, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for arbitration

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Requesting arbitration over serious issues in the Zak Smith RFC and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, White Spider Shadow (talk) 16:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded at Special:GoToComment/c-Newslinger-20250928161400-Statement_by_Newslinger. — Newslinger talk 16:59, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. White Spider Shadow (talk) 18:36, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Motion enacted in lieu of a case

The Arbitration Committee has enacted a motion in lieu of a full case:

The topic of Zak Smith is placed under the extended-confirmed restriction. This restriction is set to lapse automatically one year after the enactment of this motion. If an editor believes this restriction should be extended, they may request the Committee consider an extension by posting an amendment request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment in the final month of the restriction's timeframe.

For the Arbitration Committee, Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 07:32, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Arbitration motion regarding Zak Smith