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The Roses movie
[edit]Is Manual Art of style really exempted from basing the countries from the production companies the country is based from? If you based it on the info box it should be a British film so I want to know it’s exempted from the info box guidelines? 122.3.133.206 (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Re: reliable source on THE SUBSTANCE
[edit]Looking for your thoughts on a revert that you made to my edit last week on The Substance. I understand the revert and rightfully so because I'm a brand-spanking new account, but after seeking consensus on the talk page, they seem to be in favor of its inclusion. Would you object to my reintroducing the essay as a source? Althomas39 (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Warning users
[edit]Hi, friendly reminder to warn users after you revert their edits. Happy editing (and reverting), GoldRomean (talk) 00:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Woah, that's cool! The font changed! GoldRomean (talk) 00:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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Meg 2: The Trench
[edit]Hello, @MikeAllen I saw that my edit for Belle Avery and Apelles Entertainment Links were rollbacked from the Meg 2: The Trench movie page article. I saw a note for manual of style issue. I am not sure I understand what the issue is with my links? Am I not allowed to link to their bios like the rest of the producers and studios in the movie? Trek Rover (talk) 20:50, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- We don’t link to an external website in the prose of the page. We can add a link to a their Wikipedia page if they have one. WP:ELBODY Also you may want to check out WP:COI. Mike Allen 10:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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"Breathe (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Your draft article, Draft:Hot Mess (upcoming film)
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Wonka
[edit]Wonka is also based on the 2005 film. Why did you delete what I added? 140.32.197.35 (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
The Final Reckoning
[edit]Hi! It’s been a while. I’m writing to tell you that I might be close to getting involved in an edit war in Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning. If you can check whether or not the involved IP made those edits to fluff up the plot or genuinely give readers more context, that’d be appreciated so I don’t break the three-revert rule. Thanks! Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 03:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:The Faculty (upcoming film)
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Your draft article, Draft:Dead Guy (film)
[edit]Hello, MikeAllen. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Dead Guy".
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How to report an IP address
[edit]109.76.128.37 reverted my sourced and clean edit and left a rather rude message on my talk page titled "Gross inconsistency." Here it is:
Please do not update the box office gross in the Infobox of film articles[1] if you do not have the time to also update the lead section and article body Box office section. It would be better to not edit at all than to leave an article in an inconsistent state with different gross figures in different parts of the article expecting other editors to fix it. Do not forget to also update the access date in references.
Can I get him reported? Filmbuff102 (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Filmbuff102 Have you thought about taking the IP's advice? It sounds pretty valid to me.-- Ponyobons mots 17:21, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- This IP address has also been reverting multiple other sourced edits and has been rude to multiple other people. Check the history of his edits before coming at me. Filmbuff102 (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't "come at you", I asked a valid question regarding the nature of the IP's message to you. Anyway, over to you MikeAllen!-- Ponyobons mots 17:29, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- This IP address has also been reverting multiple other sourced edits and has been rude to multiple other people. Check the history of his edits before coming at me. Filmbuff102 (talk) 17:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't believe 109.76.xxx.xx intended to be rude—they just tend to express themselves in a direct manner. Also, this seems to be a common pattern among several editors/IPs, where the entire page isn't fully updated, only the infobox. Your edit wasn't reverted due to any sourcing issue. Mike Allen 18:39, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Hey Mike. I do not think these kinds of edits by Filmbuff are constructive[1][2][3] I believe the article was WP:NOTBROKEN and adding an extra decimal place of precision in only the Infobox and leaving the article in an inconsistent state (expecting other editors to update those other section later?) is not constructive. Filmbuff also did not follow the WP:SIMPLE rules and explain with a meaningful edit summary why he thought this change was necessary.
The change introduced needless inconsistency, it also seems like needless churn IMO, there is WP:NOHURRY in an encyclopedia to update the box office gross by marginal amounts. But if Filmbuff really cares about precision and believes an extra decimal place is needed and cares enough to do it precisely in the lead section and the article body too then I would have a whole lot less reason to object.
How do think I might better explain this more politely? -- 109.76.128.37 (talk) 21:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
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You're being a jerk
[edit]I don't know why you have some weird hate boner for me on this website, but get over yourself. No need to be snarky, simply revert an edit if it's wrong. Filmbuff102 (talk) 03:39, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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Discussion at Talk:Sinners (2025 film) § Mid-credits scene
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Unreferenced budget figures
[edit]I was surprised to see this delete from July with your name on it. If you believe information like the budget isn't properly sourced then please tag it as {{citation needed}}. (More than half the time Box Office Mojo doesn't actually have the budget so I don't blame you for challenging material that might not have been properly sourced but deleting made it more time consuming for me to figure out what went wrong and what I needed to do to fix it.)
I don't really blame you though. Some "clever" editors have decided that WP:VERIFY wasn't really a fundamental principal of this encyclopedia and that removing references from the Infobox was somehow helpful. (I remain skeptical of WP:LEADCITE but removing references from the lead doesn't seem to cause so many problems.) It is as if they think that other editors do not need to check that budget figures are correct or more often check that the budget figures had not been vandalized. (A few weeks ago I stumbled on an article with the wrong budget in the Infobox and a different budget figure in the article body. Several years previously an editor had deleted the budget reference from the Infobox, without having bothered to check if it was actually correct or even that it was the same budget figure in the article body. Simple facts blatantly wrong for years until my pedantic self actually checked it.)
Editors rarely verify simple facts. Editors frequently get basic math wrong (rounding numbers seems widely misunderstood). I do not find it all constructive that some people remove extra references and make it that extra bit more difficult to check that the budget information. I really wish they'd stop doing it, and from the above mentioned edit I can see they haven't made things better for you either, so maybe a highly active editor like yourself might see your way to discouraging those "clever" people who think deleting budget references from the Infobox is a good idea. -- 109.77.192.235 (talk) 22:34, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Well, sorry, all I can say is my bad. Thanks for fixing it. It was my fault for assuming a drive by editor posted a fake budget. This was in July when I was rushing through and cleaning Roadside Attractions film articles. I agree, I don't mind having a ref in the infobox and in the body for budgets. We do it for box office numbers. Mike Allen 11:18, 21 September 2025 (UTC)