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More articles need proper attribution

@Lamp21, I'm glad you are creating articles on Thai culture. I believe English Wikipedia needs this and, personally, I welcome it. That's why I'm sad that proper credit is not given to the original Thai articles when content is copied from them. This breaks U.S. law. That means the articles either need to be credited the way my posts above describe or they will need to be deleted. Even if you copy content into the draft space, proper credit must be given. That content is saved in the draft history and the copyright of the authors needs to be respected, just like we need to respect your copyright. So please go back to these articles and take the steps to follow the law and save your articles.

• Phra Setthi Navagotta
• Phra Suea Mueang
• Phruttibas Brahmins
• Pu'an Yinsu
• Ratchakhru Wam Thep Muni
• Sihinganidāna
• Sihuhata
• Sundarīvāṇī
• Thae Inn Gu Sayadaw
• Wat Sing Sathit
• Draft:Leklai Stone
• Draft:Thao Hiranyaphanasura
• Draft:Vietnam Mendicant Sangha

Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 21:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lamp21 great job crediting Phra Setthi Navagotta on its talk page! You are going to save your articles. YES!

Most people put the credit also in the edit summary immediately when they translate. If they forget (like I do), they make a dummy edit. They go into edit on the article and they just hit the space bar (I do it at the end of a heading or a paragraph). That space lets them make and edit summary. That's where they put "NOTE: Content in the edit of (take the timestamp of the version you translated FROM) was translated from the existing Thai Wikipedia article at th:Exact name of Thai article; see its history for attribution."

Something different goes in the Talk page. You can see it at Talk:Esther_Peter-Davis. If you go into the source code you can see how it's done. To get the numbers you see there, go into the history of any page. Click on any version. Look at the page address. The numbers at the end are what you want. We call that the "oldid." In the template at Esther Peter-Davis, "version" is the number of the version you translated FROM. "insertversion" is the number of the page you translated INTO and after you finish your edit, complete with edit summary, you get it from the page history.

I know this seems complicated at first. But you clearly are very intelligent; you have the capacity for this. You're going to make Wikipedia better and preserve Thai culture in a scary time. YES!

You can ping me by typing the @ character and picking my name. Please do that if you need help with this and I'll try my best. Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 22:27, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Phra Somdet Wat Rakhang moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Phra Somdet Wat Rakhang. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and it has too many problems of language or grammar. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:13, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Jo amulet

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🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 23:01, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about Japan Theravada Buddhist Association

Hello Lamp21, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Japan Theravada Buddhist Association, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japan Theravada Buddhist Association.

Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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Shocksingularity (talk) 04:00, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

new article for Alubomulle Sumanasara Thero

Hi there Lamp21: You need to look at references for Alubomulle Sumanasara Thero what you copied from the JApanese article where there are "ref name=" multiple references, as what you have copied does not have the primary, expanded reference information. I don't have the skills to work this out properly because of the language issue with jp:アルボムッレ・スマナサーラ. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:52, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, I will try to fix this Lamp21 (talk) 23:37, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion about Spencer Littlewood

Hello Lamp21, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.

While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Spencer Littlewood, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spencer Littlewood.

Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

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Dionysodorus (talk) 22:55, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

Please stop trying to "add" people to redlinked categories that do not exist to be used. Redlinked categories are strictly forbidden, and require other editors to invest our time into fixing them — but lately, every time the category cleanup report updates I see a few dozen redlinked categories that were put on pages by you. So you must file pages only in categories that exist (i.e. categories which are blue when you try to save the page), and may not file them in categories that don't exist. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 18:20, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Anagatavamsa. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Unfortunately, it currently references one source, and it does not have any footnotes. As such, I will be moving it to Draft:Anagatavamsa. Please feel free to republish once you have dealt with these issues. Thanks and have a great day!

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Mariamnei (talk) 07:18, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On LLMs

Hi Lamp21, please consider reading this Wikipedia:Large_language_models essay before starting another "expansion of the topic". It's not that we have to avoid LLMs "at all costs"; it's more about using them with skillful means. Some of your edits are indeed good, which I also find useful, but some are not as good. Sometimes, the articles from Thai Wiki, Myanmar Wiki, etc., have no sources; in other cases, the formatting is quite different from the English Wikipedia. Please also notice that tags like Template:AI-generated are now being added by other editors to many of the Wiki articles that you have edited. Thank you. Sappadasa (talk) 07:50, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please also notice that the calendar used in Myanmar (Myanmar Era) and Thailand (Thai calendar) differ from the English common era. Sappadasa (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lamp21—I agree with Sappadasa, and really think you need to slow down. You are clearly not taking the proper time to review the edits that you've made using LLMs. To be very clear—this is disruptive editing. Can you take some time to acknowledge some of the concerns that others have raised on this talk page? Perryprog (talk) 17:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'll try to avoid this and try to do a better job of reviewing edits so that the quality is to a higher standard and less frequent. Lamp21 (talk) 17:39, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alubomulle Sumanasara Thero moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Alubomulle Sumanasara Thero. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because this seems to be a minimally reviewed LLM translation. There are currently far too many primary sources (removing § Books will help with this—an indiscriminate listing of his books isn't necessary), as well as a number of references that just don't work, such as some that are links to anchors that don't exist, and notes that you never defined. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Perryprog (talk) 17:33, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Luang Pu Rod Phrommasaro. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Please add more sources and footnotes, as well as establish WP:Note. Thanks and have a great day!

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Mariamnei (talk) 10:33, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Luang Pu Iam Pathomnam. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Please add more sources and footnotes to back up each claim. Please also establish WP:Note. Thanks and have a great day!

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Mariamnei (talk) 12:08, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Wat Tam Doi Ton. Another editor, Rosiestep, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Hello. Please translate into English the titles for those references that are in a foreign language (use

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Rosiestep (talk) 22:44, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, I have edited this. Lamp21 (talk) 22:54, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Nestorian Hymn of the Holy Trinity. Another editor, Ingratis, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks for this article. To improve it, could you provide (a) a source for the English translation; and (b) a more specific link to the relevant location in Wikisource? Best wishes

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Ingratis (talk) 10:00, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Lamp21. Thank you for your work on Kanni Shwethintawya Sayadaw. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Please show more coverage in secondary sources as per WP:PROF. Thanks and have a great day!

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Mariamnei (talk) 10:08, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Koragajja

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