User talk:Kambojahistory

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hello friend (the Author of the “Kamboja Rajput” article.

I think you may need to include a section “Some Kamboja/Kamboj Traditions” immediately after the introduction part but prior to the Section of “Kamboja in ancient literature” in your artice. I am sending you extended text but you have enough knack and skills to summarize it in a digest form and then insert in the article. But that is your own choice whatever way you want to proceed. Once this section is handled, I would sending you the text with references about the Kshatriya lineage of Amcient Kambojas (the ancestors of the modern Kambojs/Kambohs).

Below is full text for this section but do refine it, make a digest or précis of it prior to inserting in your draft article. But the choice to do so is yours own and are free to include or or don’t.

After this, you may want to focus on your next section I mean the “Kambojas in Ancient Literature”……

OK good luck.

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==Some Kamboj/Kamboh Traditions==

The Kambohs are stated to be the ancient inhabitants of Persia i.e East Iran.^[1]

Hindu Kamboj claim to be related to the Rajputs and to have come from Persia (East Iran) through southern Afghanistan.^[2]

The Sikh Kamboj of Kapurthala & Jullundur (Punjab) claim descent from Raja Karan^[3] as noted by several colonial era ethnographers. “Rajput” means Rajaputra, son or descendant of Raja, hence the Kamboj of Jullunder/Kapurthala continue to claim themselves as the “Kamboja Rajput” which is in accordance with their tradition.

The Chapter III of Gazetteer of Muzaffarnagar(UP) attests that about 1200 Muslim and Hindu Kamboh living in Saharanpur claimed to be Rajputs. ^[4] The Kamboj in Phillaur, District Jullundur claimed to be Suryavanshi Rajputs. ^[5]The Kambohs of Bijnor claim that they came from Trans-Indus country and Mr Purser accepts this as evidently true. Many of the Bijnor Kambohs have a tradition that they are of the same ethnic stock as the Chattris (=Rajputs).^[6] The Rajasthan [District Gazetteers] asserts that the Kambohs are probably related to the Chhatris viz: Rajputs.^[7]In the Census of 1891, it is reported that the Kamboh, who lived around Mathura in the United Province (Uttar Pradesh), were originally Chhatris.^[8] Rana M Sarvar Khan in his book^[9] classifies the Kamboj/Kambojas as a Rajput community. 73.41.1.81 (talk) 19:14, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just modify/curtail or expand as you wish but must retain the cited references intact. Thanks 73.41.1.81 (talk) 19:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello brother, I hope you're doing well. "r______._007" this is my Instagram username, please contact me there. Kambojahistory (talk) 14:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. Panjab Castes, Denzil Ibbetson, p 148; Glossary of Tribes, H. A. Rose, p 443; Jatt Tribes of Zira, 1992, p 137, S. S. Gill; Tarikh-i-Kambohan, p 302, Chouhdri Wahhab ud-Din.
2. Sikhs, A. H. Bingley, p 57; Encyclopedia of Sikh Religion & Culture, 1997, p 24, Dr Gobind Singh Mansukhani, Romesh Chander Dogra]
3. [Glossary of Tribes, p 443, H. A. Rose; Panjab Castes, p 148, Denzil Ibbetson; Sidhaant Kaumudi, 1966, p 22, Acharya R. R. Pandey]
4. British India census reports of 1881/1891.
5. Glossary of tribes, H A Rose, p 443.
6. The Tribes and Castes of the north-western Provinces and Oudh, Vol III, p 119, William Crooke.
7. Rajasthan [district Gazetteers], Edition 2001, p 83, by Rajasthan (India)].
8. Tribes of Ancient India, 1977, p 99, Dr Mamata Choudhury; Encyclopedia of Indian Tribes 1995, p 89, Padamashri S. S. Sashi, S. S. Shahi.; The People and culture of Bengal, 2002, p 567, Prof A. Chattopadhyaya
9. The Rajputs: History, Clans, Culture, and Nobility, Volume 1& 2, 2005, pp 196, 375, etc

July 2025

Welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, content you added to a Wikipedia article appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint, and appears to have given undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and has been reverted. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Gotitbro (talk) 04:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Gotitbro

Actually I had provided the information which I got from the books and my ancestors, as I am Kamboja, so the information was correct with proper sources and references, so please don't edit, and the page was only discussing about the Muslims Kamboja only, which was not fair. Kambojahistory (talk) 06:00, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please link the url of the books here or provide the exact quotes. This is a topic covered by WP:CASTE sanctions and we are not going add info which we cannot verify or which only finds passing mention elsewhere or finds mention in non-WP:RS. The information especially on pages not directly about the Kamboj, such as historical peoples like Scythians/ancient Kambojas etc., is also WP:UNDUE.

Please read the policies linked.

Lastly, about the Muslims Kambohs that has been moved down to the bottom so as not give it any extra weight. Gotitbro (talk) 06:13, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll provide everything about the edits I'll do. And for your informatio, the modern kamboj are the descendants of the ancient Kambojas, and many of them had been converted to d/f religions Kambojahistory (talk) 06:18, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Kamboja Rajput, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 18:42, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

okie Kambojahistory (talk) 19:07, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sir the article is correct with real sorces and should not be deleted, because the last page which was deleted with discussion was with no sources but this page is with correct sources, and should not be deleted. Kambojahistory (talk) 05:53, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on [[:This is not a content dispute. I've restored stable version before you started adding new content with unreliable WP:RAJ era sources. SO seek consensus per WP:BRD, not the other way round.]]. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
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If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Stop edit warring and adding content based on unreliable British Raj era sources. Hence I've restored the last stable version. The onus is upon you to discuss and seek WP:CONSENSUS for every part you're trying to include per WP:BRD, not the other way round. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:04, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Unsourced and Misleading Claims

@Kambojahistory: Hello, I recently removed a section from the article that claimed the ancient Kambojas were mentioned in texts such as the Mahabharata, Anguttara Nikāya, and Ashokan edicts, and that they were incorporated into the Kshatriya order along with the Shakas and Hunas.

This content lacked a reliable source and the reference provided did not verify the claims. Wikipedia requires all information, especially historical assertions, to be backed by credible and verifiable references per WP:V and WP:RS. Adding statements without proper citations misleads readers and weakens the article's integrity.

If you have **reliable academic sources** (e.g., peer-reviewed journals, major historians, or standard historical texts) that confirm these claims, feel free to bring them to this Talk page for discussion before reinserting.

Thanks for understanding and helping improve Wikipedia.Imperial khasah (talk) 13:06, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drafting of Kamboja Rajput Article

Hi Kambojahistory,

I just wanted to inform you that I am currently drafting the Kamboja Rajput article. Please note that I am not deleting it, but working to improve it gradually.

I’m giving you proper editing access and fully welcome your contributions to enhance the article. However, I kindly request that you avoid adding unsourced or unreliable information. Per Wikipedia content guidelines, all material must adhere to WP:RS (reliable sources), WP:OR (no original research), and WP:NPOV (neutral point of view). Content that does not follow these may be challenged or removed.

If repeated issues arise with unsourced or policy-violating edits, I may need to report this under WP:VAND (vandalism), which is taken seriously by the community.

That said, I appreciate your interest and enthusiasm for the subject. Let’s work together to build a high-quality, well-sourced article. Once the article is in better shape, we can submit it for review under WP:AFC (Articles for Creation), where other experienced editors can provide feedback and help finalize it.

Looking forward to your constructive contributions. Thank you! Imperial khasah (talk) 13:59, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No Hard Feelings – Let's Collaborate

Hi again Kambojahistory,

Please don’t take anything personally — this kind of cleanup and rewriting is completely normal on Wikipedia. The goal is always to improve the article together and ensure it follows community standards like WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and WP:V.

I truly appreciate your effort and interest in the topic. If you ever feel stuck or unsure about how to continue, I’m happy to help — not just on this article, but even on any other pages you're working on.

If it’s easier for you, feel free to reach out to me on social media. You can find me on Instagram: @Yasshhh.fr — or drop your own handle, and I’d be happy to connect and collaborate further.

Let’s make this and your future articles strong, well-sourced, and impactful.

Thanks again and looking forward to working with you! Imperial khasah (talk) 14:03, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Imperial khasah

I'll drop you a message soon, on Instagram. Once again Thank you to understand the situation. Kambojahistory (talk) 14:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, drop your @ so I can accept req

( Ofc my account is private ) Imperial khasah (talk) 14:11, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, my account is with a patrick bateman profile picture, somelike. ______r____.__ Kambojahistory (talk) 01:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brother, I’m not a 'sir', and I haven’t received any request yet. I’ll accept it as soon as you send it Imperial khasah (talk) 02:13, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brother, I had sent the request, kindly cheack. Kambojahistory (talk) 02:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

done Imperial khasah (talk) 02:36, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Agent 007 (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question: "And if the source is of British Raj era what's wrong in that."

Answer: "Because those British Raj sources were used by the colonisers to divide and control the colonised peoples".

--Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:09, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh, and what about ncbc? Kambojahistory (talk) 10:57, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:46, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hey, I haven't edit that I had only edited the page related to kamboj thats all. Kambojahistory (talk) 02:55, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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