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Hallo Grimes2, für den Artikel Clarinet habe ich hier eine Erweiterung entworfen: User:Gisbert_K/Martin. Würdest du bitte auch diese Übersetzung prüfen und auch die Fehlerhinweise in den Fußnoten? Vielen Dank! -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   21:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Das ist noch viel Arbeit. Grimes2 (talk) 22:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit. Leider hat Nikkimaria den von mir in den Artikel Clarinet eingestelleten Text sofort wieder gelöscht, mit der Begründug zu detailiert und zu wenig Quellen. Ich habe dann deutliche Kürzungen vorgenommen und wieder eingestellt, mit dem Hinweis, die verbliebenen Ausführungen seien unbedingt notwendig für einen guten Artikel über die Klarinette. Und wieder löschte sie alles, jetzt nur noch mit dem Hinweis auf zu wenig Quellangaben. Daraufhin habe ich die Quellangaben erheblich erweitert und auch noch hier und da den Text ergänzt. Bevor ich diese Fassung erneut einstelle, bitte ich dich, sie noch einmal durchzusehen, damit N. sie nicht erneut streicht, mit der Begründung, es sei schlechtes Englisch. Bitte gib mir Bescheid, wenn du damit fertig bist. Vielen herzlichen Dank! -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   16:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Das ist einfach zu viel und hat schlechte Qualität. Wenige Sätze für jede Epoche müssen genug sein. Dann mit zuverlässigen Quellen versehen. Kurzum: Schreib den Abschnitt neu. Grimes2 (talk) 12:24, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ich habe den Text nochmals deutlich gekürzt, er dürfte nun etwa eine Seite einnehmen. Übersetzung neu mit ChatGPT (ohne Links und Fußnoten), jetzt hier: User:Gisbert_K/sandbox4. Sieh ihm dir bitte einmal an! -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   16:36, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ChatGPT liefert erstaunlich gute Resultate. @Gerda Arendt: Könnest Du noch mal drüber schauen. Grimes2 (talk) 19:28, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Too tired for the whole thing, - just read Baroque. General advice: make small changes, each with it's reference, - not the whole thing at once which will almost certainly be reverted again. - Specifically:
  • I'd begin with the introduction, then list the few occurrences.
  • No need to link the Rameau genre when the piece has an article, - probably we can even drop it.
  • The last sentence reads as if Bach, Vivaldi and Handel made the arrangements.
  • It might be a god idea to give the pieces years - to compare to the introduction. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt, I have now added sources and links to the intended article (and also revised the passage about the Barok). I would be extremely grateful if you would also take a look at the rest of the post. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   14:50, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'll look again and further but not today, - I have 3 GA reviews in progress, a bio to write and to prepare the turn of the month, + choir rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took a brief look at Baroque, and see no changes in the prose. I am confused by links to two different sandboxes. Please decide which is the one we should look at, and make all changes there. Earlier versions can still be seen from the history. Please do something about the four points above, add inline citations to the prose, and perhaps shorten the header(s), - just Baroque would probably work just fine for the first paragraph. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, Gerda. The relevant text is here. It contains 39 sources, with almost every sentence supported by a reference. In the Baroque section, I added the year of composition for Rameau and reworded the last sentence. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   15:35, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll look at that Martin sandbox. I don't see changes for the four points above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:38, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt Hello Gerda, when do you think you will have time for the inspection? -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   12:06, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did you change for the four points? - Generally, I have little time. 3 articles of people who recently died on the main page right now, and it's unpredictable what will happen next. Please let me know when you make changes, don't expect me to look without a prompt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I looked, you made changes. Please get the table into cosistency, - either all full sentences or all not. Why don't you first say whan the clarinet was introduced and then that therefore it's rare in Baroque. How about "especially of works by Bach ..."? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of moving this conversation to the talk page of the page in your user space? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Grimes2 Hallo Grimes2, hier ein ganz kurzer Text. Ich wäre dir dankbar, wenn du mal drüberschauen würdest. ---  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   14:01, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deine English-Kenntnisse sind langsam besser als meine. Es gibt nicht viel zu verbessern. Wusste nicht, das Tuning so kompliziert sein kann. Ich babe einfach die Birne eine wenig rausgezogen. Grimes2 (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Grimes2 Guten Tag Grimes2. Leider hat Nikkimaria den Text wieder gelöscht, wie sie es schon seit Dezember 2022 mit allen etwas längeren Beiträgen von mir macht, sieh dir mal unter Talk:Clarinet die beiden letzten Punkte an. Ich wäre dir außerordentlich dankbar, wenn du dich in meinem Sinne in die Diskussion einschalten würdest. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   09:15, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ich bin selber nicht von deinem Text überzeugt. Essentiell für das Tuning der Klarinette ist nach meiner Meinung nur das Reinziehen/Rausziehen der Birne. Manche Orchester stimmen auf 443Hz. Ist die Klarinette zu tief, so hilft eine kürzere Birne. Grimes2 (talk) 11:17, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sieh dir doch die angebebene Quelle an und den deutschen Artikel unter 1.2. Vor allem geht es darum, ob überhaupt ein Abschnitt Tuning sinnvoll ist. Über den Text kann man dann diskutieren. -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   11:25, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ich bin schon für einen Abschnitt Tuning. Allerdings kürzer. Das der Ansatz die Tonhöhe beeinflusst ist klar, der sollte sich aber nicht ändern. Das Instrument sollte warmgespielt sein. Ich würde das unter Fehlerquellen einordnen. Grimes2 (talk) 11:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kannst du mich denn nicht einmal ein wenig unerstützen, z.B. indem du schreibst:"Ich halte einen Abschnitt "Tuning" für sinnvoll. Über die Ausführlichkeit des Textes kann man diskutieren." -  Gisbert ツ (talk)  Illustrate Wikipedia !   11:46, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Hans-Josef Klauck

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April music

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Tout est lumière --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Check out my talk: for a great woman's Johannes-Passion (listen!), our music in detail, and three people who recently died and are on the main page (where she isn't). My call for collaboration has the first "no", and the second - for the Easter Oratorio - seems inevitable. Thanks for trying. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote my story today and then found it's the person's funeral day. Thank you for your help with Misereor! - I hated to see DYK for Johannes-Passion (Gubaidulina) today instead of Good Friday, but it seems also right in the context. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. - Thank you for help with Misereor, - I had to jump RL, and when I returned a miracle had happened! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Peter Ablinger

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ITN recognition for Peter von Matt

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The Signpost: 1 May 2025

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ITN recognition for David Horowitz

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ITN recognition for Kari Løvaas

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ITN recognition for Christfried Schmidt

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story · music · places

Thank you for your help with this story about patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

check my talk today for two pics of Margot Friedländer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

now May Abrahamse (with uncertain licensing of portrait), and Vakhtang Machavariani (nominated) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

listen to Machavariani's Mariupol --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good music, should be played in Kyiv like Jörg Widmann's Cantata in tempore belli. Grimes2 22:28, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yes! - musings on 15 May --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for nominating Osipenko! - birthday of Erik Satie--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
all Verdi today: tenor Luigi Alva and the premiere OTD of his Requiem, see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 14 May 2025

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ITN recognition for Alla Osipenko

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ITN recognition for Luigi Alva

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