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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations: Arno Rosenfeld (January 7, 2025). "Scoop: Heritage Foundation plans to 'identify and target' Wikipedia editors". The Forward. Retrieved January 8, 2025. (Wikipedia has an entire entry on the back-and-forth between pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian editors of the encyclopedia that it says began in earnest around 2006.) Matthew Gault (January 7, 2025). "The People Behind Project 2025 Want to Reveal the Identities of Wikipedia Editors". Gizmodo. Retrieved January 8, 2025. Wikipedia's long history of writing about the Israel-Palestine conflict has its own dedicated article, complete with its own complicated and sprawling history of edits, discussions, and fights. Stephen Harrison (February 5, 2025). "Project 2025's Creators Want to Dox Wikipedia Editors. The Tool They're Using Is Horrifying". Slate. Retrieved February 5, 2025. Let's be clear: Wikipedia's handling of this topic area is incredibly contentious. Many Wikipedians deliberately avoid pages like "Gaza War," "Zionism," and even the meta-entry on Wikipedia's own coverage of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Jon Brodkin (October 7, 2025). "Ted Cruz doesn't seem to understand Wikipedia, lawyer for Wikimedia says". Ars Technica. Retrieved October 9, 2025. He described the Wikimedia Foundation as "intervening in editorial decisions" in an apparent reference to an incident in which the platform's Arbitration Committee responded to editing conflicts on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict by banning eight editors.

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Map lead image

Current WP:LEADIMAGE

Logo of the Arabic version of Wikipedia with the colors of the flag of Palestine

Should this map does not belong to the lead section, it does not given context but focusing on Wikipedia-related article. Absolutiva (talk) 22:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same as the one at Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Making a WP:OTHERCONTENT comparison, Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident has the same "solution." More articles at Category:Wikipedia content. IMO it works, it depicts the disputed area and I think it's better than no WP:LEADIMAGE. When you removed it, you said "Map undue weight, WP:SYNTH", that doesn't make sense to me.

We can of course discuss alternatives, like the Palestinian WP-globe, or a screenshot of Template:Contentious topics/Arab-Israeli talk notice, but IMO either of those wouldn't be improvement. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:52, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you've got alternatives, I prefer the status quo 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 05:37, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A talk page notice that notify editors related to Arab-Israeli conflict page, that is designated as contentious topic.

I preferred this screenshot of Template:Contentious topics/Arab-Israeli talk notice instead. Absolutiva (talk) 06:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think that we should be bragging about restricting editing in our free encycolopedia, although that screenshot could work somewhere else in the article 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:28, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've actually seen more than one WP-journalist make a comment like "How can WP possibly work at all? Blocks and restrictions are a big part of it. They force people to discuss and try to reach a consensus." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:35, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ScheerPost

ScheerPost commented, "For all the right-wing media agita about Wikipedia's alleged pro-Palestinian bias, there is of plenty evidence that Zionists have for years been trying to push the site into a more pro-Israel direction." seems undue, considering the relative significance of the source. I will removed it, unless someone objects. FortunateSons (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

go for it. seems like a blog not really useful Bluethricecreamman (talk) 15:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks! FortunateSons (talk) 15:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Excerpt template

@Isi96, other editors, I'm not sure this [1] is a good idea. Nothing says the text should be the same in both articles, they have different focus, and it makes editing the section and using the refs strange. Personally, this is only the second time I've seen this used, and the first time I found it hard to understand what was going on. Also, this means that whenever the other article changes that section, this one changes too. I'm reverting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I used the excerpt template because much of the same text was present in both sections. Isi96 (talk) 04:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Much, but the excerpt is more than twice as long, that seems to much WP:PROPORTION for this article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:34, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Isi96 (talk) 04:35, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I can imagine this method can have its uses, but this is a touchy area. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:43, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix these errors

I can't edit the page, so please fix these errors:

• Typo: "The campaign suggested that pan ro-Israeli editors"
• This is not correct English: "Historian Shira Klein, comparing coverage of the Gaza war on English and Hebrew Wikipedia in 2024, said that "where the distortions lie, are in the Hebrew Wikipedia." Shira Klein was speaking live and of course the phrases are not always useful as quotable lines. I'd suggest to change this to the following: "Historian Shira Klein, comparing coverage of the Gaza war on English and Hebrew Wikipedia in 2024, said that the distortions lie in the Hebrew Wikipedia, and that there is "a bit of a war between Right and Left on Hebrew Wikipedia."

Hurluberlue (talk) 08:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurluberlue Thanks for noticing the typo, I implemented your other suggestion as well (and I checked the source, she did say that). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:11, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the correction and the changes. Yes of course, she did say that in the live lecture, but it's hard to understand when it is put in writing exactly as it was spoken. That's why I suggested the change. Hurluberlue (talk) 09:30, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurluberlue I only meant that I confirmed your addition, "a bit of a war between Right and Left on Hebrew Wikipedia." I knew the rest was there, since I added it in the first place ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:36, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, she talks more of WP and the IP-conflict in this [2] document, but I don't know Hebrew and or if the publisher is WP:RS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:39, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ref

Not sure if anything here is helpful for this article:

• https://www.theverge.com/cs/features/717322/wikipedia-attacks-neutrality-history-jimmy-wales

--Another Believer _(Talk) 18:34, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

cool article. might be worth posting somewhere more central, it seems to touch multiple aspects of wikipedia. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Consensus was reached. The lines were added back. Approximately 7,000 words of deliberation to settle, for a time, three sentences. This was Wikipedia’s process working as intended." Do we love this place despite that or because of it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:20, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

porque no los dos? Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:29, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Ok, I read that article. I recommend it, it was worth it. And the ending was just brilliant. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've shared the link at The Signpost's suggestions page and I think Template:Press may need to be added to several article Talk pages. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:18, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had to revert myself when I saw @Newslinger had already been there. Feel free to add on more pages. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]