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Question from Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (13:23, 27 July 2025)
[edit]Hello! I would like to create a new Wikipedia page dedicated to only discussion and information about the list of wars and battles that have taken place in the Indian subcontinent from the Battle of Ten kings to shunga empire. Please help --Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello there is already a Military history of India article which covers that @Ajatashatrukingofmagadha: 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 21:58, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Ajatashatrukingofmagadha (talk) 09:52, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Hey Abo Yemen. I saw your message on my talk feed, and while I understand the importance of sources in upkeeping this great resource, I want to point out the fact that while I lack sources handy on me right now, it is a fact of history that Imru' al-Qays al-Kindi was the nephew of Abu Layla, and that both were lovers of women and drink. I believe its important to list that on their pages, and I am sure you feel the same. If you have any sources please add them. I also wanted to ask, can I use a TV show as a source for this information? (Al-Zeer Salem). I completely understand if this is against wiki guidelines, just wanted to make sure, as in all honesty a TV source with 250 million views is probably just as reliable as a text from the 13th century on a tale that occurred in the 500's AD. Thanks in advance! God bless DaSeashell (talk) 11:47, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also, my latest edit which was reverted is literally me grabbing information from the Arabic version for Imru' al-Qays, the wiki article for Kindah, (very relevant), and other sections of the same page and using that info to fix the geneology. Lmfao, the page itself says his father ate bitter fruits (Centaurea calcitrapa) but the geneology writes it as if it was his great grandfather, which doesn't align with the writings of Ibn Asakir in "History of Dimashq". Why has it been reverted? Sometimes, information can be fact checked by moderators instead of automatically deleted. Its literally information others wrote that I wrote again for ease of reading brother come on. Also, beautiful pfp about Filasteen. DaSeashell (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- @DaSeashell: Per our Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, you need to provide a source for every statement that you add to any article. Al-Zeer Salem is in no way a reliable source, and the amount of views that show received is irrelevant. So, sorry, but you'll need to go searching for sources for every statement you add here. FWIW, the we have nothing to do with the Arabic wiki. Different language versions of the same topic aren't supposed to be a translation of a common article, plus the Arabic wiki has a lower standard for Wikipedia:Reliable sources. You can cite Ibn Asakir's book if you wish, but newer scholarship is preferred (see, WP:AGE MATTERS) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. But as I mentioned, some changes I added were direct copies from the Kindah and Imru' al-Qays ENGLISH article, so why were they deleted? Sorry I am still new to all of this. DaSeashell (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Either you forgot to copy the citations from those articles, or that text wasn't sourced in the first place (in that case, it should be also removed from the other articles too 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Makes sense. When I have time later this week I will check to see any citations I forgot to copy. DaSeashell (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- @DaSeashell Good luck and happy editing! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:24, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. God bless! DaSeashell (talk) 12:45, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
- @DaSeashell Good luck and happy editing! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 06:24, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Makes sense. When I have time later this week I will check to see any citations I forgot to copy. DaSeashell (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Either you forgot to copy the citations from those articles, or that text wasn't sourced in the first place (in that case, it should be also removed from the other articles too 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- And, personally, a 250m view show and one of the most important media works in Levantine history is as factual than a random parchment dug up in 1998 written by an otherwise unknown Iraqi or Egyptian writer with Albanian or Persian descent who lived in the 13th century writing on a topic that passed eight hundred years before he was born.
- That is to say, both are bs so we shouldn't don't pick and choose, we should either use both or neither. And if we were to go with neither, most of our information on pre-Islamic Arabia and by extension most of the Imru' al-Qays article would be deleted. Just food for thought, not trying to argue here my yamani brother just voicing my opinion. Btw, where are you from in Yemen? DaSeashell (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- In reply to the first paragraph, nothing mentioned in it counts as a reliable source. You need to use sources written by people with the appropriate academic background. You can access that stuff using Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, once you meet its requirements. As for the last part, my user page has all the info about me that I chose to disclose :) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:12, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. But as I mentioned, some changes I added were direct copies from the Kindah and Imru' al-Qays ENGLISH article, so why were they deleted? Sorry I am still new to all of this. DaSeashell (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- @DaSeashell: Per our Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, you need to provide a source for every statement that you add to any article. Al-Zeer Salem is in no way a reliable source, and the amount of views that show received is irrelevant. So, sorry, but you'll need to go searching for sources for every statement you add here. FWIW, the we have nothing to do with the Arabic wiki. Different language versions of the same topic aren't supposed to be a translation of a common article, plus the Arabic wiki has a lower standard for Wikipedia:Reliable sources. You can cite Ibn Asakir's book if you wish, but newer scholarship is preferred (see, WP:AGE MATTERS) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Thank you! 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:57, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]My Arabic is poor, but I found the congress documents for the 1st YSP Congress: https://annas-archive.org/md5/76d2640e89a68c7f43754c8c6c5e80de (you need to download it: I wish I could send you an attachment, but the WP e-mail option does not allow it). In that database, you have the congress documents of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd congresses of the YSP.
IN either case, from page ۳۷۱ to ۳۷۷, one has the entire leadership lineup elected at the 1st YSP Congress. I can create the pages and infoboxes, but could you double-check the translations when the pages have been created? Its nice to establish these articles: then we get articles on the ruling institutions and who governed the party-state. --TheUzbek (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ill take a look at it in a moment, I just got back from Jum'ah 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:58, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek Okay so, Central Committee members:
- Abdul Fattah Ismail
- Ali Nasir Muhammad
- Muhammad Saleh Mutyia
- Ali Abdulrazzaq Ba Dheeb
- Anees Hassan Yahya
- Abdul Aziz Abdul Wali
- Ali Salem al-Beidh
- Saleh Muslih Qasem
- Muhammad Saeed Abdullah
- Ali Antar
- Salem Saleh Muhammad
- Ali Shay'i Hadi
- Saleh Munsir al-Sayilie
- Saleh Hassan Muhammad
- Abu Bakr Abdul Razzaq Ba Dheeb
- Mahmoud Abdullah Asheesh
- Aidah Ali Saeed (Female)
- Mahdi Abdullah Saeed
- Sultan Muhammad al-Dosh
- Abdullah al-Khamri
- Fadhl Muhsin
- Abdullah Bakeer
- Abdul Ghani Abdul Qader
- Salem Muhammad Jubran
- Naser Nassir Ali
- Ahmed Saeed Ba Khabeerah
- Hassan Ahmed al-Salami
- Rashid Muhammad Thabet
- Salim Omar Bakeer
- Haidar Abu Bakr al-Attas
- Abdul Aziz al-Dali
- Husein Muhammad Qamatah
- Ahmed Salem Obeid
- Mahmoud al-Najashi
- Ahmed Abdullah Abdul-ilah
- Ahmed Humeid Malhi
- Abdullah Muhammad Aziz
- Mahmoud Saeed Madhi
- Muhammad Ali Ahmed
- Ali Ahmed Muthna
- Sheikh Samih
- Saeed Askaree
- Saleh Abu Bakr bin Husaynun
- Ahmed Haidarah Saeed
- Saeed Salem al-Kheibah
- Mansour al-Sarari
- Najeeb Ibrahim
- Abdul Wakeel al-Saroori
- Ahmed al-Khidhr Za'bal
- Hadi Ahmed Nasir
- Saeed Saleh Salem
- Nominated Central Committee members:
- Riyadh Omar al-'Akbari
- Qasim Abdullah al-Zouhi
- Ahmed Ali Saeed
- Mohammed Ali al-Qirhi
- Ilham Fadhl Mubjar (Female)
- Fat-hiyah Muhammad Abdullah (Female)
- Zki Barakat
- Abdulhamid Ahmed Saeed
- Awadh al-Hamzah Muhammad
- Salim Muhammad Abdul Wahid
- Abdullah Saleh Fadhl
- Suleiman Nasir Masoud
- (That was a lot of typing) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:32, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so very much! :) Could you also translate the information on the Secretariat and the Auditing Committee? (you do not need to do it now).
- I would suggest you to look up information on the PDRY on babel.hathitrust.org: it contains official CIA, State Department etc. analysis on the world. It takes time, and its not that easy to navigate through. However, you can find gold. For example, in this link #1 - Problems of communism v.35 1986. - Full View | HathiTrust Digital Library, if you search "Yemen" within you will find an analysis of the failed 1986 coup attempt (that was a real coup), how the Soviets reacted and the fact that Ali Nasir Muhammad was defended by communist Ethiopia. But again, its a hazzle to actually use it. It takes time to dig, but you will find gold there. TheUzbek (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek Okay so, Central Committee members:
- https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.c044545566&seq=263&q1=Yemen this as well. --TheUzbek (talk) 11:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Btw here is an image of the first congress [1] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:21, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- and this image is proof that the red star flag was adopted by the National Front sometime before the establishment of the Yemeni Socialist Party [2] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:23, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- This image is from the fifth congress and it shows a triangular red star flag used by the NF on 1972 [3] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- I would try to find the charter of the NF; the logo is probably described there. But yes, weird that the article doesn't have a logo or anything in the infobox. TheUzbek (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Here: The National Charter: Approved at the First Conference of the National Front for the Liberation of Occupied South Yemen held between 22-25 June 1965 - Anna's Archive Same as the last one, you need to download it. But maybe you'll find a logo somewhere. TheUzbek (talk) 14:44, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- I actually remember seeing an image of the logo of the NF on a parade held in the 70s, Ill try to look for it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:57, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Flag of the navy [4] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:00, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek - found it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:39, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- I actually remember seeing an image of the logo of the NF on a parade held in the 70s, Ill try to look for it 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:57, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- This image is from the fifth congress and it shows a triangular red star flag used by the NF on 1972 [3] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:26, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- and this image is proof that the red star flag was adopted by the National Front sometime before the establishment of the Yemeni Socialist Party [2] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:23, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek Look at this find [5] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:29, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- [6] What do you know about the fourth congress of the YSP; was it held both in 1998 and 2000? What does the banner in the picture say? What was the date of (what I believe to be) the second convening of the 4th congress in 2000? TheUzbek (talk) 09:33, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek Do you want to write about the 4th congress of the YSP or the NF first? Anw I'm going to ask a YSP leader friend of mine about that congress, so send me all the question you want me to ask him. As for the banner, it says in Arabic: من اجل مصلحة وطنية وبناء دولة النظام والقانون والمؤسسات وتحقيق الديمقراطية والعدالة الاجتماعية, lit. 'For the sake of national interest, building a state of law, order, and institutions, and achieving democracy and social equity'. This is the slogan of the congress 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- also fwiw that image is under public domain per yemeni law as it is taken more than 20 years ago 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- But, isn't there a date there? It says 2000 and 30 above the slogan: I am guessing that is the date, right?
- No need, but I think an article on "Congress of the Yemeni Socialist Party" (and that article should be created) should include the congresses of the NF. Same with the YSP general secretary page. It should include leaders of the predecessor parties (at least the NF). This has also been done at general secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea. Generally, and not very surprisingly, the YSP is missing many essential articles.
- As for the YSP post-1990 is that of any interest? As a Yemenite, does the YSP have a following this day? I am no Middle East expert but it seems like all the secular movements that were big in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s have all either collapsed or become corrupt since they are unable (or unwilling) to transfer power (as Brezhnev's USSR). Their webpage at least leaves alot to be desired, and usually a bad webpage in this day and age is a sign. TheUzbek (talk) 15:03, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- oh, the date is "from 30 August - 1 September 2000"I'd be more than happy to help with this stuff, since it is what I'm currently working onYSP post-1990 is a really long time period. The YSP participated in multiple elections and got some seats as a main opposition party alongsides al-Islah, but as of now they only have 8 seats. There is a really small pro-YSP demographic, mostly based in the main cities of Taiz, Aden, Sanaa, and Mukalla. Idk much about the corruption inside the party though 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know either about "corruption", but the fact is that the Arab secularist failed and the Arab public went on to support Islamists in their place. But I am only guessing. Are you a YSP supporter? TheUzbek (talk) 16:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Technically, yes, although I dont support whatever they're doing atm (they're pretty much doing nothing other than wait for the war to end) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting! :) What is the YSP's ideology today? Social democracy/democratic socialism, or is it still Marxism?
- Ah, I see.. But do they have a choice? Who would support arming them? If they were a bigger player, maybe the Russians or the Chinese could, but who else? I've noticed over the years that they certainly have a pro-China bent as this statement shows: "Mohammed Almekhlafi, deputy general secretary of the Yemeni Socialist Party, said people's democracy in China ensures that every citizen fully enjoys political, economic, social and cultural rights."
- Interesting, I am not finished looking at the Collective Move, but will focus on establishing and expanding basic pages for South Yemeni politics: party leader, congresses, central committee, etc. I am also trying to scrape together a list of assistant general secretaries, so if you have an overview of some of them, please give me a heads up. TheUzbek (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Technically, yes, although I dont support whatever they're doing atm (they're pretty much doing nothing other than wait for the war to end) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know either about "corruption", but the fact is that the Arab secularist failed and the Arab public went on to support Islamists in their place. But I am only guessing. Are you a YSP supporter? TheUzbek (talk) 16:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- oh, the date is "from 30 August - 1 September 2000"I'd be more than happy to help with this stuff, since it is what I'm currently working onYSP post-1990 is a really long time period. The YSP participated in multiple elections and got some seats as a main opposition party alongsides al-Islah, but as of now they only have 8 seats. There is a really small pro-YSP demographic, mostly based in the main cities of Taiz, Aden, Sanaa, and Mukalla. Idk much about the corruption inside the party though 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- also fwiw that image is under public domain per yemeni law as it is taken more than 20 years ago 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek Do you want to write about the 4th congress of the YSP or the NF first? Anw I'm going to ask a YSP leader friend of mine about that congress, so send me all the question you want me to ask him. As for the banner, it says in Arabic: من اجل مصلحة وطنية وبناء دولة النظام والقانون والمؤسسات وتحقيق الديمقراطية والعدالة الاجتماعية, lit. 'For the sake of national interest, building a state of law, order, and institutions, and achieving democracy and social equity'. This is the slogan of the congress 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
What is the YSP's ideology today?
According to the YSP leader guy ik, he told me that the party's main ideology is diacritic socialism (or something like that, I'll need to ask him again) with the method of achieving socialism thru socialist democracy. I dont think that the party is united under a single ideology, it seems like it is as factioned as the NF was in the late 60s. I appreciate the help comerade, and ill be sure to share everything I have 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:55, 10 August 2025 (UTC)- Indeed, reading the history of the YSP and the PDRY is rather depressing. They might not have succeeded anyhow, but they really made it more difficult for themselves. And the 1986 episode is rather insane. Anyhow, thanks for the information. I am more or less finished with the Secretary-General of the Yemeni Socialist Party for now. The sources for the remaining guys, I think, will be easy to find. The only thing I can't Google my way to is the exact date for when Ali Saleh Obad was elected general secretary in 1994. It's probably in an Arabic book I cannot read. Anyhow, the work continues! TheUzbek (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- yeah the events of '86 were very much the end of the progressive Yemen dream. Ill try to look for the date of when Obad was elected 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I sent you an e-mail from the Keesing's Record of World Events, which is a news archive, on the Corrective Move. I am using it to collect information on the composition of the state, government, and party organs of South Yemen. TheUzbek (talk) 11:46, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek I've replied 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- I sent you an e-mail from the Keesing's Record of World Events, which is a news archive, on the Corrective Move. I am using it to collect information on the composition of the state, government, and party organs of South Yemen. TheUzbek (talk) 11:46, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- yeah the events of '86 were very much the end of the progressive Yemen dream. Ill try to look for the date of when Obad was elected 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, reading the history of the YSP and the PDRY is rather depressing. They might not have succeeded anyhow, but they really made it more difficult for themselves. And the 1986 episode is rather insane. Anyhow, thanks for the information. I am more or less finished with the Secretary-General of the Yemeni Socialist Party for now. The sources for the remaining guys, I think, will be easy to find. The only thing I can't Google my way to is the exact date for when Ali Saleh Obad was elected general secretary in 1994. It's probably in an Arabic book I cannot read. Anyhow, the work continues! TheUzbek (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- That is a very great find! :) I see it has a list of all the CC members who were removed. Great source :)
- Do you have any materials on the unification congress of the NF and the creation of the UPONF in 1975? TheUzbek (talk) 20:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- [6] What do you know about the fourth congress of the YSP; was it held both in 1998 and 2000? What does the banner in the picture say? What was the date of (what I believe to be) the second convening of the 4th congress in 2000? TheUzbek (talk) 09:33, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- @TheUzbek I found this Russian documentary of the PDRY published in 1979, and in it is a scene from the 1st congress of the YSP [7]. I've identified the place of the congress to be Aden’s Hurricane Cinema [8] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 10:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Lovely! :)
- There is enough information out there on the 1st Congress of the YSP to create an article. So those images will come in handy :) TheUzbek (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello! I am making a Wikipedia page and it’s my first time, so it would be really great if you could help me out. Anyways, here is a cookie and milk for your troubles 🥛 🍪 --Hello wikiusers! (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Hello wikiusers! Welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Your first article should be a good guide to help you get started 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]hi so im only here from a random tiktok from a guy named Declan Shinnick, who asked someone to make a Wikipedia page about him.. so like.. how do I do that? and how much information is needed to make a Wikipedia page about a person? --96sumynona (talk) 00:10, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @96sumynona, welcome to Wikipedia! To create Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, you must ensure that the subject meets wikipedia's WP:General notability guidelines, which is, unfortunately, something that Shinnick doesn't meet. 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]I believe that the closure of this discussion was a pile-on supervote and was not closed properly. While I might have been satisfied if the keep closure was done after reasonably considering the policy based arguments on either side, you did not even acknowledge the arguments of the people !voting Draftify or why WP:SUSTAINED was ignored here in your closing explanation. Please reopen it and allow an admin to close it or I will consider it a WP:BADNAC supervote and have to dispute it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm the consensus in that discussion was that the topic had sustained notability. Not a single person voted for the article's deletion, other than an IP, whose reasoning was "
This is only a term used by a couple terminally online children
". If you're up for challenging community consensus then feel free to dispute the closure 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:44, 13 August 2025 (UTC)- Calling it a SNOW keep is simply false as there are multiple !votes for draftification that have yet to even be acknowledged by you. As I said previously, AfD is not a vote and the actual substance of the arguments has to be considered. There is zero evidence that was the case in your closure summary. I would like your opinion of why those draftify arguments were not considered or invalid. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm only one (Pokelego999) out of the four editors called for draftification by citing policy (we aren't going to draftify an article because only one person voted for so). BD2412's opinion that it has yet to sustain coverage is clearly not shared by the editors of that AfD. Archrogue was more of giving advice for fixing the article than a reason for draftification. Wackistan's doesn't explain why "sourcing for mentions of studies is inadequate", and feels that the some paragraphs of the article are AI generated/written like an essay. No one shared their feelings 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 20:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- again, if you disagree, feel free to challenge the closure 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 20:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm only one (Pokelego999) out of the four editors called for draftification by citing policy (we aren't going to draftify an article because only one person voted for so). BD2412's opinion that it has yet to sustain coverage is clearly not shared by the editors of that AfD. Archrogue was more of giving advice for fixing the article than a reason for draftification. Wackistan's doesn't explain why "sourcing for mentions of studies is inadequate", and feels that the some paragraphs of the article are AI generated/written like an essay. No one shared their feelings 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 20:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Calling it a SNOW keep is simply false as there are multiple !votes for draftification that have yet to even be acknowledged by you. As I said previously, AfD is not a vote and the actual substance of the arguments has to be considered. There is zero evidence that was the case in your closure summary. I would like your opinion of why those draftify arguments were not considered or invalid. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'd agree that the closing statement isn't particularly accurate, even though I'd also agree with the overall discussion outcome of keep. I don't think it's fair to call it a WP:SNOW situation when there's reasoned disagreement calling for draftification, and it doesn't really seem like a WP:HEY situation either given that the improvements made to the article during the discussion didn't really enter into the AfD discussion itself. The crux of the debate seems more to have been between assertions of WP:TOOSOON and WP:TOOSOONDEL, with keep !voters sometimes also asserting that they believe WP:GNG to be amply met and that this is an overriding concern. signed, Rosguill talk 19:44, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
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hello, can you help me edit --Sshatila (talk) 08:46, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Sshatila, welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Introduction is a great resource to help you with getting started 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:51, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- is mine good how to fix Sshatila (talk) 08:55, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- what is yours? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- User:Sshatila/sandbox on dr ahmed shatila Sshatila (talk) 09:03, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Sshatila Ah. The article currently reads like a cv and wont make it to mainspace anytime soon. It needs to be rewritten in an encyclopedic tone, using reliable secondary sources. The article needs to follow the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy, and, most importantly, you'll need to prove that he passes the Wikipedia:General notability guidelines 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:12, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- User:Sshatila/sandbox on dr ahmed shatila Sshatila (talk) 09:03, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- what is yours? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- is mine good how to fix Sshatila (talk) 08:55, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
Question from Urban Synergy Mentoring (11:52, 19 August 2025)
[edit]Hi Abo - do you think we can go ahead with this page? I think it's ready? All feedback welcome.
Best wishes, Victoria --Urban Synergy Mentoring (talk) 11:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Urban Synergy Mentoring - Hello Victoria, I've sent you a message in your talk page to change your username since it is against Wikipedia's policies. As for the article, you'll need to prove that your organization meets Wikipedia's guidelines of Notability for organizations and companies. Once it meets that, you can press the blue "Submit for review" button on the banner on your draft so that it can be reviewed by a reviewer, although this might take some time. Hope that this helps. (note: I've moved your draft to Draft:Urban Synergy so that the submit button appears for you) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:02, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Question from Vic warrales (13:37, 19 August 2025)
[edit]I want to creat a page. For my music and acting career. --Vic warrales (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Vic warrales, you should check out Wikipedia:Autobiography (TL;DR: Writing about yourself is very much discouraged, and you have to be a really well known person and by then someone who's unrelated to you will have probably created an article about you) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 13:44, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:History of Yemen under the British
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I would like to create my own Wiki page --Holdenba (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
is it better --Sshatila (talk) 12:02, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Sshatila definitely better, but still needs lots of work, especially on citations, basic Wikipedia:Manual of Style issues, and proving that he passes Wikipedia:Notability (people) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also, are you Ahmed Shatila himself? Because if that's the case, you'll need to follow the Wikipedia:Autobiography guideline 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:08, 20 August 2025 (UTC)