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view · edit Frequently asked questions Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning the September 11 attacks. To view an explanation to the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Is the article biased against conspiracy theories? A1: Wikipedia is a mainstream encyclopedia so this article presents the accepted version of the events according to reliable sources. Although reliable sources have repeatedly reported on conspiracy theories, reporting on conspiracy theories is not the same thing as advocating conspiracy theories or accepting them as fact. The most recent discussion that resulted in the current consensus took place on this talk page in December 2011. If you disagree with the current status, you are welcome to bring your concerns to the article talk page. Please read the previous discussions on this talk page and try to explain how your viewpoint provides new arguments or information that may lead to a change in consensus. Please be sure to be polite and support your views with citations from reliable sources. Q2: Should the article use the word "terrorist" (and related words)? A2: Wikipedia:Words to watch states that "there are no forbidden words or expressions on Wikipedia". That being said, "terrorism" is a word that requires extra attention when used in Wikipedia. The consensus, after several lengthy discussions, is that it is appropriate to use the term in a limited fashion to describe the attacks and the executors of these attacks. The contributors have arrived at this conclusion after looking at the overwhelming majority of reliable sources that use this term as well as the United Nations' own condemnation of the attacks.[1]

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Article milestones Date Process Result January 19, 2004 Refreshing brilliant prose Kept February 26, 2004 Featured article review Demoted January 10, 2005 Featured article candidate Not promoted December 29, 2006 Featured article candidate Not promoted January 27, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed February 14, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed October 16, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed May 19, 2008 Good article nominee Listed May 29, 2008 Peer review Reviewed July 10, 2008 Featured article candidate Not promoted August 20, 2008 Good article reassessment Kept June 19, 2010 Good article reassessment Delisted July 5, 2011 Good article nominee Not listed July 25, 2011 Good article nominee Listed August 23, 2011 Peer review Reviewed August 30, 2011 Featured article candidate Not promoted September 25, 2011 Good article reassessment Delisted May 24, 2013 Good article nominee Not listed July 13, 2015 Good article nominee Listed October 27, 2018 Featured article candidate Not promoted News items involving this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on September 11, 2001, and September 11, 2002. Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 11, 2003, September 11, 2004, September 11, 2005, September 11, 2006, September 11, 2009, September 11, 2012, September 11, 2013, September 11, 2017, September 11, 2018, September 11, 2020, September 11, 2023, and September 11, 2024. Current status: Former featured article, current good article

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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations: Noam Cohen (11 September 2011). "On Wikipedia, Echoes of 9/11 'Edit Wars'". The New York Times. Brian Keegan (November 17, 2020). "How 9/11 Shaped Wikipedia". Slate (magazine). Retrieved September 9, 2021. Stephen Harrison (September 8, 2021). "How Wikipedia Grew Up With the War on Terror". Slate (magazine). Retrieved September 9, 2021. Alex Pasternack (September 11, 2021). "How 9/11 turned a new site called Wikipedia into history's crowdsourced front page". Fast Company. Retrieved September 13, 2021.

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This article has been viewed enough times to make it onto the all-time Top 100 list. It has had 89 million views since December 2007. This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2011. This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 14 times. The weeks in which this happened: September 8 to 14, 2013 September 7 to 13, 2014 September 6 to 12, 2015 September 4 to 10, 2016 September 11 to 17, 2016 September 10 to 16, 2017 September 9 to 15, 2018 September 8 to 14, 2019 September 6 to 12, 2020 September 13 to 19, 2020 August 29 to September 4, 2021 September 5 to 11, 2021 September 12 to 18, 2021 September 8 to 14, 2024 This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Discussions: RM, September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Moved, 17 January 2004, Discussion RM, September 11, 2001 attacks → September 11, 2001, attacks, Not moved, 21 October 2004, Discussion RM, September 11, 2001 attacks → September 11 attacks, Moved, 20 August 2008, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Not moved, 13 October 2010, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → 9/11, Not moved, 31 March 2014, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → September 11 terrorist attacks, Not moved, 13 February 2021, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → September 11th attacks, Not moved, 14 February 2021, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → September 11, 2001 attacks, Procedural close, 23 February 2021, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → 9/11, Not moved, 26 January 2024, Discussion RM, September 11 attacks → September 11 terrorist attacks, Not moved, 9 February 2024, discussion. The content of World Trade Center/Plane crash was merged into September 11 attacks on 11 September 2001. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. The content of Slogans and terms derived from the September 11 attacks was merged into September 11 attacks on 22 October 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page. Section sizes Section size for September 11 attacks (45 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 19,284 19,284 Background 5,367 54,329 Osama bin Laden 7,930 7,930 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other al-Qaeda members 4,585 4,585 Motives 20,159 20,159 Planning 8,795 8,795 Prior intelligence 7,493 7,493 Attacks 4,738 75,710 Crashes 27,714 27,714 Casualties 30,619 30,619 Damage 9,899 9,899 Rescue efforts 2,740 2,740 Reactions 3,614 57,996 Immediate response 8,742 8,742 Domestic reactions 7,808 17,805 Hate crimes 5,467 5,467 Discrimination and racial profiling 1,846 1,846 Muslim American response 1,681 1,681 Interfaith efforts 1,003 1,003 International reactions 17,734 17,734 Military operations 10,101 10,101 Aftermath 88 44,741 Health issues 9,943 9,943 Economic 7,158 7,158 Effects in Afghanistan 7,001 7,001 Cultural influence 4,157 4,157 Government policies towards terrorism 9,713 9,713 Legal proceedings 6,681 6,681 Investigations 21 32,125 FBI 9,404 9,404 CIA 2,195 2,195 Congressional inquiry 6,247 6,247 9/11 Commission 4,170 4,170 National Institute of Standards and Technology 6,095 6,095 Alleged Saudi government role 3,993 3,993 Rebuilding and memorials 32 19,801 Reconstruction 8,324 8,324 Memorials 11,445 11,445 See also 1,077 1,077 References 17 76 Notes 28 28 Citations 31 31 Bibliography 10,501 10,501 Further reading 2,921 2,921 External links 5,221 5,221 Total 323,782 323,782

Osama Bin Laden killing footage

Soon, the footage of Osama Bin Laden killing should be uploaded on Wikipedia, as a matter of fact, I already have it, it leaked somewhere. 192.64.87.130 (talk) 08:46, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are not an RS. Slatersteven (talk) 10:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is the best way to explain 9/11?

I thought that 9/11 was a inside job, but i was lied to, so i must be careful about editing and/or changing about the following article. Sawbrimedline (talk) 05:43, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We all must be careful editing the article. HiLo48 (talk) 06:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its called wp:policy. Slatersteven (talk) 10:50, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You've added this photo to the infobox. It's a photo you uploaded. In the file history you've said "Originally found from a Los Angeles Times news article". In the copyright section you claim to have uploaded it as copyright holder. I've reverted your edit on the basis of WP:COPYVIO. DeCausa (talk) 11:14, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2025

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Fix broken subtitling on the first primary image of the Towers. Experienced on mobile; unsure if this occurs on other mediums. 2601:2C6:8501:D910:3070:EE65:2E82:4F12 (talk) 00:16, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by broken subtitling. Are you talking about the caption of the infobox photo? Please be more specific about the issue you're experiencing. Day Creature (talk) 00:57, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Was able to replicate by rotating my phone horizontally, the caption overlaps with the image. I'll see if I can attach a screenshot. — 🪫Volatile ^{📲T | ⌨️C} 04:42, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://imgur.com/a/t7QaPSh there we go, not sure if there's anything that can be done though. May require the review of someone more familiar with templates and the technical aspects of Wikipedia — 🪫Volatile ^{📲T | ⌨️C} 04:43, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OP here, Volatile seems to have figured it out. The captions overlap fully with the first shown image of the Towers on some aspect rations. I don’t know how finicky an issue this but it’s definitely a glaring problem. 2601:2C6:8501:D910:9D3A:D899:7D59:C7AD (talk) 17:23, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest asking for help at the teahouse or help desk, to see if anyone there has an idea about how the issue could be resolved. Day Creature (talk) 18:18, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Captioning_issue meamemg (talk) 16:19, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

asked at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Captioning_issue per suggestion. meamemg (talk) 16:55, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be a problem with either {{infobox}} or {{multiple image}}. See this test case for a simplified version. The caption is rendered on top of the images in mobile, as in the screen shot. If I expand the rendered code and add a {{clear}} between the div block for the images and the div block for the caption, it solves the problem. See this version of my sandbox in mobile. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:24, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So it sounds like this needs to be an edit to the {{multiple image}} template? That's certainly above me comfort level so I'll leave fixing to you or others. meamemg (talk) 17:45, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved a condensed version of this thread to Template talk:Multiple image. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:48, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the caption to work around this issue. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:19, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please only use {{edit semi-protected}} when you know exactly what needs to be changed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:52, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sptember 11 attacks : Important For the World (Change)!

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

• What I think should be changed: "were four coordinated Islamist terrorist suicide attacks by al-Qaeda against the United States in 2001." to "were four coordinated terrorist suicide attacks by al-Qaeda, a group falsely invoking religion, against the United States in 2001."
• Why it should be changed: The terms “Islamist” and “jihadist” are often misused to wrongly link Islam—a peaceful, pro-humanity religion like Christianity and Judaism—with violence.Jihad is 0% Anti-humanity; it means striving for good, justice, and positive change—something Americans do every day by volunteering, helping neighbors, and standing up for justice. Adding the "ist" fuels misunderstanding and unfair stereotypes; As It leads to Humans thinking a specific religion (Islam); also has an aspect of being "anti-humanity" or "A Fake fundamentalist" When It does 0%; It Has like Every Religion no Place for "Fake Fundamentalism which = anti-humanity" and is only about being a "True fundamentalist = Pro Humanity".Reliable sources show extremists falsely invoke religion but do not represent mainstream Islam. Using clearer language promotes accuracy, neutrality, and respect @WikiPedia.
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

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Was it false< looks like OR to me. Slatersteven (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

1. Seib, Philip; Janbek, Dana (2012). "Picturing terrorism through Arabic lenses: a comparative analysis of Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya". Journal of Arab & Muslim Media Research. 5 (2): 163–180. doi:10.1080/01292986.2012.701317. Retrieved 2025-07-23.
2. Hamadeh, Nadim (2021-05-15). "The use of the term 'terrorism' in media coverage of the Gaza war: a political or editorial choice?". Al Jazeera Media Institute. Retrieved 2025-07-23.
3. Why We Don’t Use the Word 'Terrorist'. AJ+. 2016-03-21. Retrieved 2025-07-23.

 Not done. There is no consensus for this change. The words "Islamist terrorist" have a specific meaning that is accurate in this case, and the phrase is linked so that readers can learn more about that meaning. The lead sentence of that article, which is sourced, is Islamic terrorism (also known as Islamist terrorism, radical Islamic terrorism, or jihadist terrorism) refers to terrorist acts carried out by fundamentalist militant Islamists and Islamic extremists. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:12, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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