Talk:False or misleading statements by Donald Trump

Skip to table of contents

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the False or misleading statements by Donald Trump article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the subject of the article.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination: Deletion discussions: Speedy keep, 28 May 2020, see discussion. Keep, 19 December 2019, see discussion. keep, 12 March 2019, see discussion.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard. If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.

Biography: Politics and Government Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation. This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Low-importance). An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article. Business Low‑importance Business portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Business, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of business articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Conservatism Low‑importance Conservatism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Conservatism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of conservatism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Law Low‑importance Law portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. New York (state) Low‑importance New York (state) portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York (state), a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of New York on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. New York City Low‑importance New York City portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York City, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of New York City-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Politics: American Low‑importance Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as Mid-importance). Skepticism Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Skepticism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of science, pseudoscience, pseudohistory, conspiracy theories, and skepticism related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Spirituality Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spirituality, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of spirituality-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. United States Low‑importance United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Presidents of the United States: Donald Trump Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Presidents of the United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Presidents of the United States on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale. This article is supported by the Donald Trump task force.

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (center, color, defense, realize, traveled) and some terms may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This page has been mentioned by multiple media organizations: Conrad Duncan (November 13, 2019). "Nikki Haley roasted for claiming US president never lied to her". Indy100. Archived from the original on November 15, 2019. Retrieved April 16, 2020. According to The Washington Post, the president had made 13,435 false or misleading claims as of 14 October. There's even a Wikipedia page called "Veracity of statements by Donald Trump", which opens with this sentence: "Donald Trump has made many false or misleading statements, including thousands during his presidency." Graham Gremore (April 9, 2020). "Mike Pence cuts off media's access to top health experts until they give Trump free on-air time". Queerty. Retrieved April 16, 2020. Trump...lies so much that there's an entire Wikipedia page devoted to the "veracity of statements by Donald Trump." Robin Bradshaw (September 17, 2024). "Wikipedia page on Trump's false statements gains attention ahead of 2024 election". The Beaumont Enterprise. Retrieved September 18, 2024. While social media and the Internet have changed the political landscape in the modern age, a recent Wikipedia page titled "false or misleading statements by Donald Trump" is starting to gain attention in the last leg of the 2024 election race.

Text and/or other creative content from Donald Trump was copied or moved into Veracity of statements by Donald Trump. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article relates to post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people, a contentious topic. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator.

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Discussions: RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Donald Trump's false and misleading claims, No consensus, 25 October 2018, Requested move 25 October 2018 Discussion, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → False and misleading statements by Donald Trump, No consensus, 21 February 2019, Should this page be moved to 'False and misleading statements by Donald Trump'? RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → False statements by Donald Trump, No consensus, 22 April 2019, Requested move 22 April 2019 Discussion, *various options presented initially*, No consensus, 19 August 2022, Title of article is wrong RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Mendacity of statements by Donald Trump, Withdrawn, 11 June 2023, Requested move 11 June 2023 RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Inaccuracy of statements by Donald Trump, Consensus to move to False or misleading statements by Donald Trump, 17 June 2023, Requested move 17 June 2023

The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future: "Stupidology" by William Davies, originally published Fall of 2025 (Issue 51) in n+1 magazine; a shorter version also appears in The Guardian on 2 October 2025, titled "A critique of pure stupidity: understanding Trump 2.0".

Section sizes Section size for False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (108 sections) Section name Byte count Prose size (words) Header Total Header Total (Top) 16,348 16,348 446 446 Veracity and politics 5,611 12,534 265 687 Repetition 5,539 5,539 223 223 Bullshit 1,384 1,384 199 199 Business career 56 35,981 0 1,863 Real estate 3,506 3,506 190 190 Other investments and debt 7,274 7,274 307 307 Philanthropy 3,151 3,151 70 70 Sports 14,624 14,624 937 937 Other 4,211 4,211 185 185 Perceptions 3,159 3,159 174 174 In The Art of the Deal 21,201 21,201 1,026 1,026 September 11 attacks 11,324 11,324 592 592 2016 presidential campaign 18,676 21,420 672 762 Border wall with Mexico 2,744 2,744 90 90 First term 58 252,378 0 9,639 Fact-checking Trump 21,767 21,767 634 634 Credibility polling 2,429 2,429 73 73 Re-election campaign 2,055 2,055 55 55 Commentary and analysis 15,175 22,448 655 813 Purpose and effect 7,273 7,273 158 158 Specific topics 88 203,621 0 8,064 Inaugural crowd 7,334 7,334 145 145 2016 presidential election 7,778 7,778 96 96 Denial of Russian hacking and election interference 4,340 4,340 202 202 Denial of collusion with Russia 4,318 4,318 176 176 Dismissal of FBI director 4,457 4,457 151 151 Personal lawyer 4,920 4,920 244 244 Spygate conspiracy theory 5,808 5,808 135 135 2018 California wildfires 1,392 1,392 101 101 Special counsel investigation 5,184 5,184 252 252 Economy 16,131 16,131 513 513 Family separation policy 2,717 2,717 145 145 E. Jean Carroll sexual assault accusation 2,553 2,553 99 99 Article II and unlimited executive power 1,240 1,240 69 69 Hurricane Dorian 29,901 29,901 1,036 1,036 Meeting with Iran 1,303 1,303 72 72 U.S military pullout from Kurdistan 1,526 1,526 48 48 Obamagate conspiracy theory 13,696 13,696 616 616 Joe Scarborough murder conspiracy theory 7,852 7,852 336 336 Advances for black Americans 1,510 1,510 127 127 Republican Party approval rating tweets 2,514 2,514 128 128 Ilhan Omar 1,101 1,101 50 50 COVID-19 pandemic 42,467 42,467 1,703 1,703 The military and veterans 4,826 4,826 254 254 Voting by mail 2,040 2,040 99 99 2020 presidential election 12,492 12,492 604 604 January 6 attack 14,133 14,133 663 663 Between terms 62 122,183 0 3,803 Refusal to accept 2020 election loss 6,229 6,229 211 211 2021 California gubernatorial recall election 1,296 1,296 38 38 COVID-19 healthcare discrimination against white people 1,047 1,047 44 44 Spygate conspiracy theory 1,577 1,577 24 24 Drop boxes in the 2020 presidential election in Wisconsin 1,131 1,131 35 35 Federal prosecution (government documents case) 4,771 4,771 255 255 Federal prosecution (2020 election case) 505 505 11 11 Claim of intervening in 2018 Florida vote count 1,620 1,620 125 125 2022 announcement speech 4,986 4,986 471 471 2023 CNN town hall 1,651 1,651 122 122 2024 presidential campaign 5,155 5,155 156 156 False and misleading statements by topic 48 52,088 0 1,599 2024 presidential election 1,061 1,061 88 88 Immigration and crime 9,772 9,772 449 449 Global warming and climate change 6,947 6,947 244 244 Foreign policy 3,087 3,087 168 168 Healthcare 952 952 46 46 Abortion 662 3,400 16 72 Roe v. Wade 2,738 2,738 56 56 LGBTQ claims 672 672 14 14 Indictments 1,766 1,766 103 103 Music Modernization Act 1,097 1,097 52 52 Real vs. AI-generated images 21,067 21,067 267 267 Hurricane Helene 2,219 2,219 96 96 Events 13 40,065 0 712 Biden vs. Trump presidential debate 2,927 2,927 28 28 Speech at the Republican Convention 2,252 2,252 27 27 CPAC Speech 550 550 24 24 NABJ interview 4,940 4,940 148 148 Mar-a-Lago news conference 7,449 7,449 158 158 Elon Musk interview 6,193 6,193 55 55 Howell, Michigan speech 1,014 1,014 98 98 Harris vs. Trump presidential debate 14,727 14,727 174 174 Second term 2,383 121,311 71 3,149 Events 109 79,462 12 1,882 Inaugural statements 7,652 7,652 61 61 Speech to a joint session of Congress 9,778 9,778 26 26 News conference about crime in Washington, D.C. 12,775 12,775 454 454 Press conference about autism, Tylenol, and vaccines 32,032 32,806 986 1,050 Resulting lawsuits 774 774 64 64 September 2025 speech at the United Nations 15,081 15,081 218 218 Demolition of the East Wing for the White House State Ballroom 1,261 1,261 61 61 False and misleading statements by topic 47 39,466 0 1,196 Blame for start of Russo-Ukrainian War 2,327 2,327 64 64 Jeffrey Epstein hoax 9,371 9,371 274 274 Uncle's acquaintance with Ted Kaczynski 1,924 1,924 166 166 Alleged apology from Tucker Carlson 895 895 79 79 Reducing drug prices 583 583 46 46 Firing of Erika McEntarfer 24,319 24,319 567 567 Sanewashing of Donald Trump 28,059 28,059 408 408 "Two weeks" 20,748 20,748 260 260 Public opinion 6,222 6,222 230 230 See also 363 363 0 0 References 33 33 0 0 Further reading 20 2,650 0 0 Books 1,288 1,288 0 0 Papers and chapters 1,342 1,342 0 0 External links 19 680 0 15 Fact-checker archives 661 661 15 15 Total 673,435 673,435 22,880 22,880

Archives

Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3 Archive 4 Archive 5 Archive 6 Archive 7 Archive 8

This page has archives. Sections older than 14 days may be auto-archived by Lowercase sigmabot III if there are more than 5.

Trim?

This is long... to say the least. I feel like a bit of cleanup is in order, but I'm not sure which areas to trim. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 18:46, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it has previously been discussed to split this up by date somehow; pre-presidency/first term/second term, maybe. 331dot (talk) 19:19, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would support this proposal. I would also support a split-off of all political statements to a separate article, although the classification would be a bit nebulous and may have OR concerns. WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. I think it's useful to have a single, cited, source to show people all the lies and deceptions. The length of the article just reinforces it. Fixedd (talk) 18:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I support single article but disagree with the reason stated here. The only reason these are listed is because they are notable falsehoods from a very notable, newsworthy individual. Wikipedia has no general duty to call out all falsehoods or make truth claims, only to summarize references of them by others TheWikiJedi (talk) 01:04, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is long because Trump has such an enormously long list of lies (similar to his list of crimes). It has to be this way. 2A00:23C8:8FAE:1C01:28C7:4DFE:3C6C:2558 (talk) 06:39, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed splitting

This article is currently at 21.5k words, which is 6.5k more than the maximum recommended at Wikipedia:Article size#Size guideline. Because the largest sections here focus on terms, I propose to split them into 3 different articles: False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (first term), False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (between terms) and False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (second term) (with all other sections remaining in this one).

Please look at the sandboxes I made:

• False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (after splitting)
• False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (first term)
• False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (between terms)
• False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (second term).

Sapphaline (talk) 16:10, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This definitely seems like a good proposal. But what about false or misleading statements made by Trump from before his first presidency? Where would that content go? I assume it would all stay contained within this current main article? 172.58.10.83 (talk) 06:32, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I assume it would all stay contained within this current main article? - yes. sapphaline (talk) 09:59, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support this article is unnecessarily humongous. I don't think I've ever seen that number of references on an article. It is currently the seventh-biggest article on English Wikipedia, and probably the biggest one not made mostly of tables. Procrastineur49 (talk) 16:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Using the size guideline is a good idea. Snowman304|talk 18:08, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Agreed with other commenters. Thank you for doing this. Jean Abou Samra (talk) 11:43, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support RFZYNSPY ^talk 23:11, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per all, and close. TheSilksongPikmin (talk) 11:33, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

• 1990- Criminal cases, political violence, US, by ideology.svg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File was kept on 21 October 2025 per closer. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 October 2025

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

"Demolition of the East Wing for the White House State Ballroom" uses <ref name=":1" />, which creates an inappropriate reference ("Donald Trump: 'No regrets' about Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade"). Please add an appropriate source: <ref>{{Cite web |date=2025-10-20 |title=White House begins demolishing part of East Wing for Trump ballroom |url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced6np51532o |access-date=2025-10-28 |website=BBC News |language=en-gb}}</ref>, or add the Failed verification template. AlexVojProc (talk) 10:08, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Kspiers (talk) 10:57, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]