User talk:SSSB


Before posting a message here please consider if this is the correct venue. If you wish to discuss me (SSSB), my edits (read the second paragragh if you have an issue with an edit request I implemented) or you wish to bring my attention to a certain matter, this is the correct venue (there are other cases where this is the correct venue).

However, this is not the correct venue to make edit requests. These requests should be made on the talk page of the page which you would like to be edited, if you request an edit on a page in which I have an interest it will appear on my watchlist, I will see it. If you have a problem with an edit request I implemented, please consider if it might not be better to respond where the edit request was made (you may use {{ping}} or {{u}} to attract my attention). Thank you,
SSSB (talk)

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Silverstone

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Held a race for the 60th, the British race for the 59th + one edition of the Anniversary GP. Overall in the circuit history there have been 60 races. Island92 (talk) 10:49, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know that. But that's not what was written at 2025 British Grand Prix. At 2025 British Grand Prix, you wrote "The event was held at the Silverstone Circuit in Northamptonshire for the 60th time in the circuit's history". The "event" unambiguous refers to the British Grand Prix. The 70th Anniversary Grand Prix is a seperate event. So the "event" (i.e. the British Grand Prix) was held at Silverstone for the 59th time. SSSB (talk) 10:55, 26 July 2025 (UTC)l[reply]

2025 Belgian Grand Prix

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We are already under race conditions as the pit lane was opened more than 30 minutes ago. Island92 (talk) 12:45, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, we aren't. "Race conditions" means the race has started. And the "starts from pit lane" note should be in present tense until they have actually started from the pit lane. SSSB (talk) 12:51, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hungaroring

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Ask user @DH85868993: for any doubt. There is a certain consistency for all other track. That year refers to the layout used since, as you above (2003-present) read Hungaroring, not Hungarian Grand Prix. The intro of the article tells you since when the race has been held (1986). Island92 (talk) 22:06, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The track image layout displayed has been used since 2003, not 1986. Do you want (1986-present)? You have to remove the circuit image then to report, generally, since when the Hungarian Grand Prix has been held.Island92 (talk) 22:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Island92: There is not consistency with all other tracks, because I checked. It's also not relevant, I would be making this argument regardless.
There is nothing in the text to suggest that we are specifically refering to the layout. You say that "That year refers to the layout used since" but that's not what the text says. The text says "Hungaroring (2003-present)". To me, this means that the event has been at the Hungaroring since 2003 to present. What the image is of, doesn't change anything. But, the event has been held at the Hungaroring since 1986. If you wanted it to refer to the layout the text needs to reflect this, the text needs to say "Layout of the Hungaroring (2003-present). SSSB (talk) 22:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The event has been held at the Hungaroring since 1986, but not in the layout track displayed currently because if you go to 1986 Hungarian Grand Prix an old layout was used. Where is the sense in there to report 1986-present with the layout used since 2003? Island92 (talk) 22:21, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How many times do I have to repeat this? Are you even reading my responses? The "sense" is that we should be "reporting" the years the track has hosted the Hungarian Grand Prix, because that is what the text says. We should not be reporting they years that the layout has hosted the Grand Prix because that is not what the text says. SSSB (talk) 22:32, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No? See multiple other tracks with the same practice. Island92 (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care. That doesn't make the practice right. But, if you want to go down that route, I can just change "the practice" at all those other tracks. Or point out that there are multiple other tracks that use the practice I think is best. SSSB (talk) 22:37, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, I would wait for DH85868993 response as I once saw him making my same edit and hence I consider him an user with more experience than me for these kind of edits. Island92 (talk) 22:42, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You just admitted to pinging someone because they once made the edit you support. You think you can just make this go away by insisting I wait for your attempt at Wikipedia:Canvassing to come to fruition. SSSB (talk) 23:02, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't work like that here. I find that user edit more logical than your, pending is approval or not basing it on his experience. The whole infobox already says when the first edition took place. See Australian Grand Prix that says Albert Park circuit 2022-present. See Singapore Grand Prix that says Marina Bay Street Circuit that says 2023-present. See Abu Dhabi Grand Prix that says Yas Marina Circuit 2021-present. I always found this practice which did not come from my interpretation of things. Island92 (talk) 05:12, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it doesn't work like that here: you cannot just selective ask other editors who you know you agree with you to attempt to bully me into your way of thinking. "The whole infobox already says when the first edition took place." irrelevant. Because the first Hungarian Grand Prix was not 1986. Nor was the first Australian Grand Prix 1996 (which was the first Australian Grand Prix at Melbourne). And I don't care how Australian Grand Prix, Singapore Grand Prix and Abu Dhabi Grand Prix do it because, as I said before, " That doesn't make the practice right. But, if you want to go down that route, I can just change "the practice" at all those other tracks. Or point out that there are multiple other tracks that use the practice I think is best." SSSB (talk) 07:12, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As has been identified above, there is currently a mixture of practices - some articles list the years the race has been held at that circuit, others list the years of the current track layout. Personally it wouldn't worry me if we removed the years altogether, to minimise possible confusion. DH85868993 (talk) 09:35, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there we are @Island92:. As I tried to explain, both are reasonable and both are in use. How do you feel about DH8868993's suggestion to remove the years altoegther? SSSB (talk) 21:16, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, better. Island92 (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. I am going to boldly start doing that tomorrow. If I face resistance, I will take it Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One (unless you take either of these actions first) SSSB (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 27

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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WikiProject Formula One

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I am having issues with that user too and have also faced some bizarre turns in conversation; my view is that they're definitely a troll. - SchroCat (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: I agree. I still haven't been told what my supposed contradiction is. SSSB (talk) 15:14, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure they'll be here for long. Unless they change their approach radically, they'll be blocked soon enough. - SchroCat (talk) 16:03, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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