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Your submission at Articles for creation: Australian Diploma of Cosmetic Tattooing (July 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AlphaBetaGamma was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Makes too much claims that sound like the author's opinions or original research without sourcing.

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AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 13:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AlphaBetaGamma - thank you for quickly reviewing my first ever attempt at an article in Wiki. I am trying to provide more publicly visible material on the Australian Diploma of Cosmetic Tattooing. Published information on the diploma and related material is primarily limited to government websites rather than any publications in recognised journals etc.The government sources have been referenced extensively (I have added perhaps 10 more citations and links).

Based on your advice I have tried to remove any comments that would appear to be a personal opinion, although I believe any such comments were common knowledge in the cosmetic tattooing industry (just lacking documentation in formal publications). I have ensured there is nothing contetious in there.

Any further guidance appreciated, I have resubmitted the revised draft.

Thanks again. RobMcGo (talk) 06:13, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RobMcGo! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 13:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Australian Diploma of Cosmetic Tattooing (September 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by NeoGaze were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:

• Promotional tone, editorializing and other words to watch
• Vague, generic, and speculative statements extrapolated from similar subjects
• Essay-like writing
• Hallucinations (plausible-sounding, but false information) and non-existent references
• Close paraphrasing
  

Please address these issues. The best way is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Subject is hardly notable, and the draft seems largely generated through an AI.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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NeoGaze (talk) 21:00, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello NeoGaze - thank you for your review, however I was disappointed to read your comments on my draft article on the Australian Diploma of Cosmetic Tattooing. The diploma is probably the first ever formal qualification in cosmetic tattooing (permanent makeup) in the world, although that indeed would be a claim that is impossible to verify. As such it represents a huge step forward, particularly in Australia, for an industry that is grossly under-regulated, and where there are signficant health risks. Did you know for instance that the ingredients of tattoo inks and cosmetic tattoo pigments are largely unregulated, and often include known carcinogens? In this regard I qualify myself by noting I am on the Commission for Tattoo Inks run by the German Federal Bureau of Risk Assessment (BfR) working on the risks health and difficutles of implementing regulatory controls (includes representation from the WHO and US Food and Drug Administration). With 20%+ of the US, European and Australia poplulation now tattoooed, there is potentially a latent health crisis. The diploma includes information on pigment risks and chemicals to avoid..

As to the use of AI, I can assure you that I do not use AI for writing, and this article is 100% original. It is unfortunate that there is so little published information on cosmetic tattooing, hence most of my references are from government department sources. Fortunately this makes them very factual.

For cosmetic tattooists trying to find factual information on qualifications, I had hoped that an initiative on Wikipedia would cut across much of the baseless nonsense that frequently appears on social media and random hits from search engines. If my attempts at publishing on Wikipedia continues to be thwarted by reviewers inevitably unfamilar with this specialised discipline, my efforts will need to be directed elsewhere.

Thank you again for your time and attention. RobMcGo (talk) 06:10, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]