User talk:HJ Linde

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A tag has been placed on Cape Town Creative Academy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hi there,
The article Cape Town Creative Academy was deleted under speedy deletion, but I do believe it meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. The institution is formally registered with the Department of Higher Education and Training (provider no. 2014/HE07/009), and has independent coverage in reliable sources, including ArtThrob (graduate exhibition review), Mail & Guardian (profile of alumnus/lecturer Vusumzi Nkomo), and IOL (National bursary competition report).
Would it be possible to request undeletion into a draft space so that I can continue improving the article with neutral tone and citations? HJ Linde (talk) 11:14, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on User:HJ Linde/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:50, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the content in my sandbox. Please advise if i can remove the deletion warning? HJ Linde (talk) 11:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

September 2025

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Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, website, or role, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must follow all these steps:

  1. Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
  2. Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
  3. Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked; and
  4. Provide a new username.

To do this, insert the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

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Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:35, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As per the above I have made the request to be unblocked. I do however feel the action taken was excessive. The page was removed, but no chance was given to rectify the issue or learn from the mistake. I've had this account for 5 years, this is the first attempt at creating a page. In the very least I would like to continue working on a draft in my sandbox to try and come up with something that is deemed acceptable. It is not as if this account is only a few days old and used to spam either. HJ Linde (talk) 18:37, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This user is asking to be unblocked to request a change in username.

HJ Linde (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Requested username:

Request reason:
  • Disclose: I am self-employed and run my own IT company. While I do IT infrastructure work for CTCA, I am not paid to create or edit Wikipedia pages for them or anyone else. My interest in starting an article came from seeing that similar institutions having pages.
  • Convince: I understand now that what I wrote came across as promotional, even though that was not my intention. I accept this as the reason for my block and will do my best not repeat the mistake. In the future I will use the Teahouse and Articles for Creation process to ensure any new pages meet Wikipedia’s standards.
  • Describe: My main goal is to create and maintain a page on CTCA using reliable, independent sources - I do believe it is notable based on references I have found about them.

HJ Linde (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators should consider discussing any unblock with the blocking administrator (see the blocking policy).

Administrator use only:

If you ask the blocking administrator to comment on this request, please replace this template with the following:

{{unblock-un on hold | 1=blocking administrator | 2=GravityWeaver | 3=
  • Disclose: I am self-employed and run my own IT company. While I do IT infrastructure work for CTCA, I am not paid to create or edit Wikipedia pages for them or anyone else. My interest in starting an article came from seeing that similar institutions having pages.
  • Convince: I understand now that what I wrote came across as promotional, even though that was not my intention. I accept this as the reason for my block and will do my best not repeat the mistake. In the future I will use the Teahouse and Articles for Creation process to ensure any new pages meet Wikipedia’s standards.
  • Describe: My main goal is to create and maintain a page on CTCA using reliable, independent sources - I do believe it is notable based on references I have found about them.

HJ Linde (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC) | 4=~~~~}}[reply]

If you accept the unblock request, replace this template with the following:

{{unblock-un reviewed | 1=GravityWeaver | reason=
  • Disclose: I am self-employed and run my own IT company. While I do IT infrastructure work for CTCA, I am not paid to create or edit Wikipedia pages for them or anyone else. My interest in starting an article came from seeing that similar institutions having pages.
  • Convince: I understand now that what I wrote came across as promotional, even though that was not my intention. I accept this as the reason for my block and will do my best not repeat the mistake. In the future I will use the Teahouse and Articles for Creation process to ensure any new pages meet Wikipedia’s standards.
  • Describe: My main goal is to create and maintain a page on CTCA using reliable, independent sources - I do believe it is notable based on references I have found about them.

HJ Linde (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC) | accept=Allowing username change to requested username. Please select an option from [[Wikipedia:Changing username]] and file a request as soon as possible to avoid re-blocking. ~~~~}}[reply]

If you decline the unblock request, replace this template with the following, replacing {{subst:Decline reason here}} with any specific rationale. If you do not edit the text after "decline=", a default reason why the request was declined will be inserted.

{{unblock-un reviewed | 1=GravityWeaver | reason=
  • Disclose: I am self-employed and run my own IT company. While I do IT infrastructure work for CTCA, I am not paid to create or edit Wikipedia pages for them or anyone else. My interest in starting an article came from seeing that similar institutions having pages.
  • Convince: I understand now that what I wrote came across as promotional, even though that was not my intention. I accept this as the reason for my block and will do my best not repeat the mistake. In the future I will use the Teahouse and Articles for Creation process to ensure any new pages meet Wikipedia’s standards.
  • Describe: My main goal is to create and maintain a page on CTCA using reliable, independent sources - I do believe it is notable based on references I have found about them.

HJ Linde (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC) | decline={{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}[reply]

This article asserts notability and is supported by independent, reliable sources. CTCA is registered with the Department of Higher Education and Training (DHET register, provider no. 2014/HE07/009). Independent coverage includes an ArtThrob review of the 2024 graduate exhibition, a Mail & Guardian profile of lecturer and alumnus Vusumzi Nkomo, and IOL reporting on CTCA’s national bursary competition. These meet Wikipedia’s notability requirements for educational institutions. I am actively improving the article to reflect neutral, encyclopedic tone and verifiable references.
None of this establishes that the school is notable. Mere registration with a government agency/ministry doesn't confer notability; a profile of an alumnus might make the alumnus notable, but not the school itself; reviews of events might merit the events articles but not the school. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to disclose the conflict of interest you concur with. Regarding the notability I will try and find better sources to substantiate it and work through the AfC and Teahouse as mentioned. Not sure what else I can do? HJ Linde (talk) 15:58, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! To help us process this block, please review Wikipedia's payment disclosure policy, then describe what you would need to do if you edit about CTCA. As for CTCA's notability, you'll want to look at notability guidelines for schools and organizations more generally. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:13, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will need to use '{{connected contributor|User=GravityWeaver|employer=Cape Town Creative Academy (CTCA)}}' on the talk page of the article (draft). Likewise on my userpage {{UserboxCOI}}
I do not fall under payment disclosure as I am not paid for the editing. I am an external contractor to the client and provide IT services that does not relate to Wikipedia. As such, as per the two other admins COI exist as a result. Unless you disagree with my opinion here? I'm happy to disclose as per the {{paid}} template if you feel that is necessary, but that is not how I understand WP:PAID. HJ Linde (talk) 16:03, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
HJ Linde, if you have ever received, or expect ever to receive, from the school any payment, fee, emolument, reward or compensation – whether in the form of money, goods or services – you are considered for our purposes to be a paid editor. Please see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Meaning of "employer, client, and affiliation". Do you have any interest in doing anything in this project other than promote the interests of your client? If so, please describe some edits you might wish to make; if not, please be aware that it is very unlikely that your account will be unblocked. I have to say that I'm quite curious to know how you think you might be able edit Wikipedia without making use of IT. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:03, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Im happy to disclose it like that if you see it that way. "Do you have any interest in doing anything in this project other than promote the interests of your client?" That is not the goal. The goal is to create page that will be accepted according to what is required. Honestly you and other admins treat me as if I committed murder or something. It is the first attempt ever for me to create a page - I have no ill intent here, this account is a personal account I've had for 5 years. 155.93.252.61 (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you log in so we know it's you? Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 04:21, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Im not sure why that posted with an IP. I did log in (though it give an error but it showed my name in the top right?) prior to writing it. HJ Linde (talk) 06:01, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Im happy to disclose it like that if you see it that way. "Do you have any interest in doing anything in this project other than promote the interests of your client?" That is not the goal. The goal is to create page that will be accepted according to what is required. Honestly you and other admins treat me as if I committed murder or something. It is the first attempt ever for me to create a page - I have no ill intent here, this account is a personal account I've had for 5 years. HJ Linde (talk) 06:07, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • asilvering, no, mea culpa. I use a script for efficiency when executing a delete-block with a user page, and it looks as if I forgot to click off the default spamusername, apologies Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:28, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    At which point though does this go to a decision? HJ Linde (talk) 12:20, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, looks fine to me, honestly, I'm not sure why you've been having such a hard time. I think calling you a paid editor is really stretching it and I think you're fine with the normal COI disclosure, but I would advise that you follow the editing guidelines at WP:PAID anyway, to keep everything maximally above-board. I do warn you that this might be pretty tough, as WP:NORG is a tough guideline to pass, especially when it's your first try at a wikipedia article. @Jimfbleak, any objections to unblock under those conditions? -- asilvering (talk) 15:59, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Asilvering, the user has been ask to describe some non-conflicted edits he/she might wish to make, but to date has not troubled to do so. We're not seriously considering unblocking someone so that they can continue trying to promote an institution they work for, are we? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Justlettersandnumbers, this editor hasn't actually done anything wrong. They were working on a draft in their sandbox and hadn't even submitted it yet. They've now disclosed their COI, and been asked to review and adhere to the editing guidelines at WP:PAID. Maybe they'll never write about anything other than this school. That's fine. That's more than most people ever even think of writing for wikipedia. If their article gets through AfC, we'll take it, and if it doesn't, we won't. If they start hassling AfC reviewers or otherwise wasting the time of productive contributors, I or someone else will reblock. But there's no need to keep someone blocked if they're willing to disclose their connections and edit within policy, and they've repeatedly said they're happy to do that. -- asilvering (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
asilvering I think you are in a minority of admins who regularly unblock without a condition that they don't immediately go back to writing about their COI topic. That's your privilege, but it's not against any guidelines for reviewers to tke a different view on that, or to delete articles that haven't been submitted for review. I don't think Justlettersandnumbers has acted inappropriately, just taken a different view Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:41, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say Justlettersandnumbers had acted inappropriately. What I said was that yes, I would unblock, provided they follow the guidelines, which they've now been told about. -- asilvering (talk) 05:52, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there was not an extensive discussion here, I would decline this because the draft read as a brochure for prospective students, I don't think they're yet ready to make COI edits, and they indicate they don't want to edit anout any other topic. However, do not consider me to be standing in the way of others taking action. Just giving my 2 cents. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Justlettersandnumbers i have not said anything about non-conflicted edits because im not a regular editor or plan to be. If I come across something on a topic that I have an interest in or that is significant to me in some way I will happily do so. Back in 2020 I made an edit about an earthquake here. But these are random and at best if I happen to come across something
As for my plan right now. I do want to complete what I set out to do - that is the school thing. Whether you believe me or not - I will take what was discussed here and apply it as best I can to try and write something that conforms.
More than that I cant do. It feels like I’ve been crucified here for making a mistake - granted perhaps I didnt read enough or understood exactly how to go about it in terms of the CoI etc - thats on me. We all learn from mistakes - I don't know everything in life… HJ Linde (talk) 06:01, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? COI/paid editing is allowed on Wikipedia so long as an editor makes the proper disclosure. That has now occurred. Given that the only thing HJ Linde wants to edit about is this school, I don't see the harm in commuting this to a mainspace block, which will allow HJ Linde to write a draft and then submit it for review. If the new draft is G11-able, it will be deleted again, and HJ Linde can be blocked again if they keep submitting highly promotional drafts. If not, and the draft doesn't show that the topic is notable, it will be declined. If the topic ends up being notable, we'll end up having gained an article. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Voorts, Asilvering, I'd intended to leave this discussion – my view is/was that we regularly and routinely indef accounts used only for advertising or promotion, and so have no reason to unblock a user determined to remain in that category. I now recognise that this view is not (as I had previously believed) shared by all my esteemed colleagues, and am pleased to see a compromise proposal here. Voorts, Asilvering, you will of course anyway do as you think best, but – just for the record – no objection from me. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:13, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]