User talk:Explicit
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Question for Explicit
[edit]Hi Explicit, what would it take to request the undeletion of this low-res image? File:The goddess pele by arthur johnsen.jpg. It had a fair-use rationale, but was tagged for lack of specific in-article rationale during the holidays 2019 and deleted within 2.5 weeks before anyone could add a fair-use rationale for either of the two articles it had been posted on. (I, for one, was off-wiki for November and December during those holidays when it was tagged and deleted.) I don't know who uploaded the image, but it was added to Pele (deity) by ThT in May 2018. I later added it to Arthur Johnsen in August 2018. It has been reproduced (in much higher resolution) in numerous books and scholarly articles. Artist is Arthur Johnsen. I would like a response from you, or another admin. Thanks, Softlavender (talk) 00:18, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: Hi, the file was not deleted for lacking a fair use rationale for a specific article, but rather for failing WP:NFCC#8, as the person who tagged it felt that it lacked contextual significance in its use in Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. It was removed from the other two articles by JJMC89, so one can assume he felt those uses did not satisfy NFCC either. ✗plicit 00:33, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- It was removed from Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park by a bot at 00:17, 14 December 2019 because you had deleted the file [1], but there had been no alert on the article's talkpage. (I personally have no particular care about its presence or lack thereof on that article, which I am not watching.) It had been removed from Pele (deity) by JJMC89 at 06:49, 6 December 2019 with the edit summary "no rationale for this article" [2] -- so again, it only needed the addition of a rationale for that article. As it is, the image is extremely important for that article because it was replaced by a 1927 depiction of the black-haired Hawaiian goddess as a yellow-haired blonde Caucasian which is considered culturally inappropriate and racist (see the first paragraph of Arthur Johnsen#The Goddess Pele for confirmation). The image had been removed from Arthur Johnsen by JJMC89 at 06:48, 6 December 2019, with the edit summary "no rationale for this article" [3] -- so again, all it needed was a rationale for that article.
So again, what would it take to request the undeletion of this low-res image? Softlavender (talk) 06:20, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: Just to clarify, the file was initially tagged with {{di-missing some article links}} by another user and, upon removing the image from those two articles, JJMC89 tagged it for violating NFCC#8 in its remaining usage. Since there is some discussion of the image at the Johnsen article and NFCC#8 was not considered at the time there specifically, I have restored the file. Please amend the file's description page accordingly. ✗plicit 00:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your time and research, and for restoring the image. I have now re-added it to at least one article, with a non-boilerplate rationale. Thanks again, Softlavender (talk) 20:14, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for restoring the file. Best, --ThT (talk) 11:21, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- For reference, it turns out that I was the one who tagged the file with
{{di-missing some article links}}back in 2019, but I didn't remember this when I posted my comments above. Anyway, I did add a notification about the tagging to Talk:Arthur Johnson and Talk:Pele (deity) but didn't remove the file from those articles. Since nobody subsequently added a rationale for those two uses (a rationale for each of those uses really should've been added to the file's page by the persons who added them to those two articles in the first place), the files were eventually removed by whoever reviewed the template. The deletion of the file happened a little later and was for a different reason than a missing rationale. Now, for reference, all of this missing ratonale stuff is pretty much taken care of by bots; so, you (Softlander) should make sure you add a rationale for each use you feel meets the WP:NFCCP to the file's page either before or right after you re-add the file to any articles. If you wait too long, the bot looking for files lacking rationales will find the file and remove it from any articles lacking a correponding rationale for the file's use. Furthermore, the file is currently not being used in any article which means it's technically eligible for speedy deletion per WP:F5; so, you should try to add the file to at least one article before another bot finds it and tags it for speedy deletion per F5 because then the file will end up deleted again in a week if it continues to remain unused. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:33, 12 December 2025 (UTC)- Thanks for your research, explanation, and advice. I have now re-added it to at least one article, with a non-boilerplate rationale. (Will do the other article and rationale when I've woken up more.) Softlavender (talk) 20:14, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: Thanks a lot and mahalo nui loa for taking care of this image of great cultural importance. I'm also grateful for the cooperation and helpful advice from @Marchjuly. Best, --ThT (talk) 11:29, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your research, explanation, and advice. I have now re-added it to at least one article, with a non-boilerplate rationale. (Will do the other article and rationale when I've woken up more.) Softlavender (talk) 20:14, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Softlavender: Just to clarify, the file was initially tagged with {{di-missing some article links}} by another user and, upon removing the image from those two articles, JJMC89 tagged it for violating NFCC#8 in its remaining usage. Since there is some discussion of the image at the Johnsen article and NFCC#8 was not considered at the time there specifically, I have restored the file. Please amend the file's description page accordingly. ✗plicit 00:45, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- It was removed from Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park by a bot at 00:17, 14 December 2019 because you had deleted the file [1], but there had been no alert on the article's talkpage. (I personally have no particular care about its presence or lack thereof on that article, which I am not watching.) It had been removed from Pele (deity) by JJMC89 at 06:49, 6 December 2019 with the edit summary "no rationale for this article" [2] -- so again, it only needed the addition of a rationale for that article. As it is, the image is extremely important for that article because it was replaced by a 1927 depiction of the black-haired Hawaiian goddess as a yellow-haired blonde Caucasian which is considered culturally inappropriate and racist (see the first paragraph of Arthur Johnsen#The Goddess Pele for confirmation). The image had been removed from Arthur Johnsen by JJMC89 at 06:48, 6 December 2019, with the edit summary "no rationale for this article" [3] -- so again, all it needed was a rationale for that article.
Invitation to reach a consensus on Runit Debbarma
[edit]Hi, I have been adding maintenance tags to this article Runit Debbarma earlier, which were removed by the author of the article without any proper addition. Despite of proposed deletion, these tags were once again removed by the author of the article without any explanation. Currently, the article is an AFD-related discussion, but these tags were removed too, despite several warnings to the author. If you can give it a quick look at it, we probably can come to a consensus. Thank you for your time. Khorang 07:43, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
Hello Explicit, I hope you're doing well. Could you restore and unprotect it. Thank you for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 12:07, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- @C1K98V: Hi, I have unprotected the talk page as requested. ✗plicit 12:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 12:17, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
Message to Explicit
[edit]YOU LIAR!!! >:( TackyWiki (talk) 07:21, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
File:BraveryMedalAustralia.jpg
[edit]In May this file was deleted for the reason 'No evidence of permission', however it had sufficient permission's listed - [4] - which is in use on other similar files. Please revert the deletion. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 05:05, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- I was also not notified of the potential deletion at the time. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 05:08, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Nford24: You're right about the license, I have restored the file and sent it over to Commons. You did not receive a deletion notice because a different user uploaded the file. ✗plicit 11:48, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, fair enough. Thankyou! Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 20:07, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Nford24: You're right about the license, I have restored the file and sent it over to Commons. You did not receive a deletion notice because a different user uploaded the file. ✗plicit 11:48, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Undeletion for redirection request
[edit]Hi, as per my recent request at WT:NSPORTS, can you please undelete Jack White (footballer, born 1912) so that it can be redirected to the relevant list of players. That should be the default outcome of these "used to meet the superseded SNG but not the current GNG" articles. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 05:09, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @The-Pope: Hi, do you have a relevant list in mind? I don't see an obvious target, but I can point it there once it's restored. ✗plicit 11:48, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- For single team VFL/AFL players, there are lists for each club. So in this case, List of Hawthorn Football Club players#1930s would be the target. I also think that the redirected page should retain the relevant categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Pope (talk • contribs) 17:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @The-Pope: Thanks, I have restored and redirected the page. ✗plicit 23:38, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- For single team VFL/AFL players, there are lists for each club. So in this case, List of Hawthorn Football Club players#1930s would be the target. I also think that the redirected page should retain the relevant categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Pope (talk • contribs) 17:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Ooops?
[edit]I think User talk:Rhiannon Abercrombie4 may have gotten caught in a batch delete or some such? -- Ponyobons mots 00:06, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Ponyo: Thanks for pointing that out. XFDcloser isn't supposed to delete user talk pages, but I guess it ignores that rule when the base userpage is a redirect to an article. ✗plicit 00:09, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
Moving file name
[edit]Hello @Explicit, can you move the file name of File:Abbys-ultimate-dance-competition-2048x1152-promo-16x9-1.jpg to File:AUDC title card.jpg because i forgot to change the name of the file. Octaviyanti Dwi Wahyurini (talk) 03:15, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Octaviyanti Dwi Wahyurini:
Done, file renamed. ✗plicit 03:25, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much. Octaviyanti Dwi Wahyurini (talk) 03:28, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
XFDcloser backlink removal on PRODs
[edit]Hey there. I'm investigating this XFDcloser bug report, and I notice that your workflow appears to use XFDcloser when processing PRODs. For example, looking at the edit summary tags, it looks like you deleted Siege of Hirson with Twinkle, but you removed its backlinks with XFDcloser (example diff). I am just wondering how you get XFDcloser to run on PRODs. Can you share the steps/clicks with me? I can't find the option to run it on PRODs. Thanks in advance for your help. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: Hi, when I load a deleted page in article namespace (when it displays the read warning box and deletion summary like this), I see "XFDC Unlink" in my Tools sidebar under "Actions". I'm not sure if anything in my Preferences settings affects it being displayed, but it seems that it doesn't show up for every admin. I also use the Vector (2022) skin, so I wonder if older skins have limitations. ✗plicit 11:22, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting. Just checked (I'm on Legacy 2010) and those options show up for me as well. I know it's good to fix bugs, but I wonder if Twinkle's unlink tool would be a better option for things like this until said bug gets fixed. Primefac (talk) 13:24, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! I see the unlink option now and will use that to troubleshoot the bug. Happy holidays :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:12, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
Title blacklist
[edit]Hi! I was trying to do this filemove because their name is Laila Edwards[5] but I received this error: The page "File:Layla Edwards (lower left) and Wisconsin Badgers teammates celebrate on-ice after winning 2024 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey tournament quarterfinals.jpg" cannot be moved to "File:Laila Edwards (lower left) and Wisconsin Badgers teammates celebrate on-ice after winning 2024 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey tournament quarterfinals.jpg" because the title "File:Laila Edwards (lower left) and Wisconsin Badgers teammates celebrate on-ice after winning 2024 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey tournament quarterfinals.jpg" matches an entry .*\([QɊʠIl1!ÌÍÎÏĨļǏĪĬİḷŀΙЇɨ!łľıĮį].{95,200}.* <moveonly> on the local or global blacklists. If you believe that this move is valid, please consider requesting the move first.
which appears to be intended to prevent homograph attacks. I think admins can overrule the title blacklist. Please take a look. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 14:41, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
_and_Wisconsin_Badgers_teammates_celebrate_on-ice_after_winning_2024_NCAA_Division_I_women%27s_ice_hockey_tournament_quarterfinals.jpg&wpNewTitle=File%3ALaila+Edwards+%28lower+left%29+and+Wisconsin+Badgers+teammates+celebrate+on-ice+after+winning+2024+NCAA+Division+I+women%26%2339%3Bs+ice+hockey+tournament+quarterfinals.jpg&wpReason=typo){kind=link}
- @Polygnotus: Hi, I have moved the file to the new name as intended. ✗plicit 14:44, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 14:53, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
When deleting pages, you need to remove the links like I did here. I've told User:Liz to do it so now I'm telling you. Logoshimpo (talk) 23:18, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Logoshimpo: Please point me to the policy that requires me to do so, especially in an article that consists of ten other red links. ✗plicit 23:23, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
Hello can you review this
[edit]hello MR.Explicit I been seeing Draft:Radford s Sechirst being edited by Historyday1 like many times KANABAIS (talk) 23:57, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- The correct link is Draft:Radford Sechrist. Polygnotus (talk) 01:38, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- thanka KANABAIS (talk) 01:38, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Deletion of "Accordion Society of Australia"
[edit]Can someone explain why Accordion Society of Australia was deleted despite my several additions from secondary sources which include historical newspaper articles via trove.nla.gov.au? No further feedback has been given other than "Delete most sourcing is from themselves or non-notable industry cruft" by Iljhgtn (13:26, 18 December 2025 (UTC)), however this does not recognize the newspaper sources I added. How does one go about giving this article another shot, for a legitimate non-profit organisation which dates back to 1970? Iplayboxes (talk) 03:41, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Misuse of G7
[edit]You deleted Draft:Reze (Chainsaw Man) yesterday after the author, Sunless067778, requested deletion via a G7 request. The request was made after the article was tagged as being {{ai-generated}} due an egregious amount of LLM tells (a copy of the draft was made here to document 0 usage at WP:AITELLS).
Sunless has now recreated the draft at the same title, it appears that deletion was not requested in good faith
as required by WP:G7, but as a way to avoid scrutiny stemming from improper LLM use. Is there a way that the draft history could be restored? fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 12:26, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four: I have restored the page history, as well as the thread on the talk page regarding the use of LLM. ✗plicit 14:31, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi, you removed the link to International Conference on Very Large Data Bases, so the disambiguation VLDB now links only to one element, which is a bit strange... Unfortunately, I missed the deletion discussion. Actually, this is the top venue (beside of SIGMOD) for database papers, it is not hard to find secondary sources: [6] with an acceptance rate of 24%, it is even lower than that of SIGMOD. So not sure how the nomination for deletion could be successful. So I am not sure how to proceed: Of course, I could add a paragraph to very large database, but this is also strange and it feels a bit wrong keeping an entry for less important conferences but not for VLDB... MaxEmanuel (talk) 11:15, 23 December 2025 (UTC)