User talk:Ell22Moore

Your submission at Articles for creation: Timothy Buckley (priest) (August 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ell22Moore! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 08:06, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Ell22Moore. Thank you for your work on Laugh Lines Comedy Club. Another editor, 11wallisb, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

The text in this stub has been detected as being almost entirely generated by an LLM. This is a violation of WP:CGC. At least one of the sources also lacks the information that is given in this stub. Please see WP:V. I have returned this article to draftspace so that these issues can be addressed, as currently it isn't ready for mainspace. Thank you and happy editing!

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11WB (talk) 07:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did a large overhaul on the article. I admit I was adding redundant points to the article which probably lead to the positive result. Ell22Moore (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Doyle (white nationalist) has been accepted

John Doyle (white nationalist), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

—Alalch E. 23:56, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Ell22Moore. Thank you for your work on John Doyle (white nationalist). Another editor, Alalch E., has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Please remove WP:NEWSWEEK and WP:ROLLINGSTONE sources. They cannot be used in a biography of a living person which has inherently contentious elements. Thank you for contributing this article.

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—Alalch E. 23:59, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Alalch E.: Thanks for the feedback. I understand the concern about using Newsweek and Rolling Stone in a BLP with contentious material. Would it be acceptable to retain them only for non-contentious details, while relying on SPLC, ADL, PRA, and other strong sources for the more controversial material? Ell22Moore (talk) 00:09, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but please assume that everything is contentious by default in an article like this and decide that it isn't only for an identifiable and good reason. Wikipedia must get an article like this right. Policy says: Be very firm about the use of high-quality, reliable sources (in biographies of living people). This article is also within two specifically designated contentious topic areas on Wikipedia. This really isn't a criticism of your contribution, just a pointer. Sincerely, —Alalch E. 00:32, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]