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Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major
[edit]commander4 displays Command Sergeant Major but Command Sergeant Major is primarily a US Army specific rank and billet that doesn't exist in other branches. It's odd to have a Marine Corps page that lists a Command Sergeant Major. A Marine SgtMaj would be referred to as a battalion/regimental/division Sergeant Major, never "Command". Can "Sergeant Major" be added as {{{commander5}}}/{{{sergeant_major}}}? SkonesMickLoud (talk) 03:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- @SkonesMickLoud: If you didn't filled in
|commander4_label=parameter, then default label is "Command Sergeant Major". If you want that label to be battalion/regimental/division Sergeant Major or any other label, then you just need to filled in that parameter. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- It probably ought not to default to anything, except a generic term. GraemeLeggett (talk) 10:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, I wasn't asking for battalion/regiment/division Sergeant Major labels, just a generic "Sergeant Major" instead of/in addition to "Command Sergeant Major". The label method works I guess, but it seems like Sergeant Major should be the default and Command could be added with the label. A quick search of Sergeant Major shows that only two branches (the US Army and the IDF) use Command Sergeant Major while the rest use Sergeant Major, making the latter far more common. SkonesMickLoud (talk) 14:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Default label for
|commander2_label=is "Ceremonial chief" and for commander3_label is|commander3_label=is "Colonel of the Regiment", I believe those are also not that commonly used as well. However, if we don't want to those use default label, then we just need to fill in that parameter. And also that's what suggested in the documentationThe infobox allows for up to three current commanders to be specified; the exact roles or titles of these individuals should be specified via the corresponding label parameters.
Ckfasdf (talk) 18:39, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Default label for
- Agreed, I wasn't asking for battalion/regiment/division Sergeant Major labels, just a generic "Sergeant Major" instead of/in addition to "Command Sergeant Major". The label method works I guess, but it seems like Sergeant Major should be the default and Command could be added with the label. A quick search of Sergeant Major shows that only two branches (the US Army and the IDF) use Command Sergeant Major while the rest use Sergeant Major, making the latter far more common. SkonesMickLoud (talk) 14:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- It probably ought not to default to anything, except a generic term. GraemeLeggett (talk) 10:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Request
[edit]Can someone add a parameter for units that came before and after the one the infobox is about similar to preceded and succeeded parameters on a former country infobox
- | succeeded_by =
- | preceded_by =
or alternatively a shorter form of s and p but using a numbering system
- |s1 =
- |p1 =
if you could make this work I would appreciate it AvailableViking (talk) 01:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Define before and after. Are you talking about amalgamations as opposed to name changes. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Transport aircraft link
[edit]Shouldn't the link for {{{aircraft_transport}}} direct to military transport aircraft rather than cargo aircraft? The cargo aircraft article seems to focus mostly civilian freight transport with some mention of military aircraft, but the article on military transport aircraft is focused only on military ones. Military transport aircraft are also not cargo-only as they can be used to transport troops as well. Alin2808 (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Subject: Proposal to Modify the "Commanders" Section to "Leadership" in the Infobox Military Unit Template
[edit]I would like to propose a modification to the "Commanders" section of the Template:Infobox military unit. Currently, this section is often populated with not just the actual commanding officer, but with other organizational leaders, such as Sergeant Majors or Command Master Chiefs. While these individuals are undoubtedly key figures within the military hierarchy, they are not typically the ones who hold the official command position of the unit.
To more accurately reflect the structure of military organizations, I suggest renaming the "Commanders" section to "Leadership". This term is more inclusive and better accommodates the inclusion of senior non-commissioned officers (NCOs), senior enlisted advisors, and other prominent figures within the unit's leadership, without causing confusion about who holds the official command role.
Additionally, to maintain clarity regarding rank and hierarchy, ranks could be prefixed before the names of these individuals. This approach would help differentiate between those who hold formal command positions and those who have significant but supporting leadership roles.
I believe this change will enhance the accuracy and inclusivity of the template, aligning it with how military organizations are structured and ensuring that all key personnel within the unit are properly acknowledged.