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Section sizes Section size for War in Donbas (53 sections) Section name Byte count Prose size (words) Header Total Header Total (Top) 25,506 25,506 460 460 Background 3,531 13,296 124 599 Protests and revolution 3,716 3,716 170 170 Protests in the Donbas 6,049 6,049 305 305 History 2,140 268,987 82 15,393 Militants seize towns 2,113 16,407 40 737 Sloviansk 4,342 4,342 197 197 Kramatorsk 1,257 1,257 86 86 Horlivka 3,636 3,636 165 165 Other settlements 5,059 5,059 249 249 Government counter-offensive: "the Anti-Terrorist Operation" 27,451 27,451 1,469 1,469 May 2014: post-referendum fighting 13,180 17,077 786 1,000 Airport battle and fighting in Luhansk 3,897 3,897 214 214 Escalation in May and June 2014 1,492 23,265 62 1,395 Luhansk border post siege 1,453 1,453 47 47 2 June Luhansk airstrike 2,930 2,930 185 185 Continued fighting 4,327 4,327 228 228 Russian tank incursion 7,051 7,051 543 543 Ilyushin Il-76 shoot-down 1,190 1,190 65 65 Battle of Yampil 4,822 4,822 265 265 July 2014: post-ceasefire government offensive 12,158 12,158 806 806 Fighting worsens in eastern Donetsk Oblast 4,768 4,768 334 334 Downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 4,308 4,308 193 193 Government push into Donetsk and Luhansk cities 31,280 31,280 1,889 1,889 August 2014 invasion by Russian forces 26,967 26,967 1,670 1,670 September 2014 ceasefire 13,344 13,344 850 850 November 2014 separatist elections and aftermath 10,978 10,978 695 695 Escalation in January 2015 18,430 18,430 1,014 1,014 Minsk II ceasefire and denouement 14,306 14,306 860 860 January 2017 eruption of heavy fighting and failed ceasefires 22,604 22,604 1,049 1,049 October 2019 Steinmeier formula agreement and July 2020 ceasefire 7,628 7,628 518 518 2021–2022 escalation 14,068 14,068 733 733 2022 full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine 1,808 1,808 99 99 Combatants 18 24,485 0 1,504 List of combatants 157 157 15 15 Russian involvement 22,380 22,380 1,412 1,412 Military aid to Ukraine 1,930 1,930 77 77 Casualties 1,592 12,761 157 559 Civilians 1,930 1,930 136 136 Ukrainian forces 1,579 1,579 84 84 Separatist forces 7,660 7,660 182 182 Consequences and humanitarian concerns 8,464 14,642 501 925 Displaced population 6,178 6,178 424 424 Reactions 16 19,121 0 1,260 Ukrainian public opinion 5,532 5,532 451 451 Russia 1,605 1,605 99 99 International reactions 413 413 20 20 Labelling of the conflict 11,555 11,555 690 690 See also 263 263 0 0 Notes 26 26 0 0 References 30 30 0 0 Further reading 2,756 2,756 0 0 External links 2,024 2,024 0 0 Total 383,897 383,897 20,700 20,700

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Discussions: RM, War in Donbas → War in Donbas (2014–2022), Moved, 5 June 2022, discussion RM, War in Donbas (2014–2022) → War in Donbas, Moved, 17 October 2023, discussion

On 8 August 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Donbas war. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Lies there were no Russian paramilitaries in the region

Those were Russian speaking minorities which got attacked by azov pro nazi paramilitaries 2001:56B:3FF9:C3A5:C2B:F6EA:D671:1EC (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done You have not provided verification from a reliable source. I also suggest that you have a look at enwiki's policies on original research, neutrality, & the Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought section of What Wikipedia is not. Peaceray (talk) 16:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

causes

How convenient that we're forgetting about that tiny little coup d'etat that preceded this invasion, my dear weebs. 2A02:A020:380:F426:B31B:4ACB:1ACC:2785 (talk) 01:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 August 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. It seems pretty clear that "War in Donbas" is the common name, therefore it should stay as the title. (closed by non-admin page mover) Garsh (talk) 14:00, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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War in Donbas → Donbas warDonbas war – Per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE. Basically:

1. "Donbas war" is shorter than "War in Donbas" and should be preferred for that reason per WP:CONCISE.
2. "War in Donbas" is potentially more ambiguous than "Donbas war", because "War in Donbas" can be interpreted as a descriptive name covering all fighting in Donbas at any time including in e.g., the Russian Civil War, WW2 etc. For example this paper uses the term "war in Donbas" when discussing German POW camps during WW2. "Donbas war" should therefore be preferred per WP:PRECISE. Donbas war already redirects here anyway.
3. "Donbas war" is used more commonly in recently-published reliable sources directly about the war than "War in Donbas". Examples of this include -

Books

• Why the Donbas War Was Never “Civil”, Julia Kazdobina, Jakob Hedenskog & Andreas Umland (zero hits for "war in donbas", 31 for "Donbas war")
• The Impacts of the Russo-Ukrainian War, Hideaki Shinoda, Pavlo Fedorchenko-Kutuyev (Chapter 6.2 - "Events leading to the Donbas war), (zero mentions of "war in Donbas", 9 mentions of "Donbas war")
• Putin's War on Ukraine, Samuel Ramani (seven mentions of "war in Donbas", 21 mentions of "Donbas war")
• Propaganda and Ideology in the Russian–Ukrainian War, Jon Roozenbeek (1 mention of "war in Donbas", 13 mentions of "Donbas war")
• Civil War? Interstate War? Hybrid War?, Jakob Hauter - (six mentions of "war in Donbas", 25 mentions of "Donbas war")

Google Books search

122 hits for "War in Donbas" versus 146 hits for "Donbas war"

"Donbas war" should therefore be preferred per WP:COMMONNAME

(I don't care about capitalisation, so if people prefer Donbas War I'm OK with that too). FOARP (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME – Per English Corpora Now, "Donbas war" is only used 136 times whilst "War in Donbas" is used 325 times. Searching for academic articles on Google Scholar, something more reliable than searching for books that could be self-published, show that "War in Donbas" appears in around 2,810 articles compared to the "Donbas war's" ~1,070 results. Newer scholarly articles include:

• Käihkö, Ilmari (2 January 2021). "A Conventional War: Escalation in the War in Donbas, Ukraine". The Journal of Slavic Military Studies. 34 (1): 24–49. doi:10.1080/13518046.2021.1923984. ISSN 1351-8046. Retrieved 8 August 2025.
• Chrzanowski, Brendan (2021). "An Episode of Existential Uncertainty: The Ontological Security Origins of the War in Donbas (Summer 2021)". Texas National Security Review. 4 (3). doi:10.26153/tsw/13990. ISSN 2576-1153. Retrieved 8 August 2025.
• Nychyk, Alina (3 March 2024). "The Geopolitical Chess Game: Ukraine's Interactions with the EU and Russia at the Onset of the War in Donbas". Problems of Post-Communism. 71 (2): 107–118. doi:10.1080/10758216.2023.2177174. ISSN 1075-8216. Retrieved 8 August 2025.

Aviationwikiflight (talk) 23:13, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose To determine COMMONNAME, we need to determine the proportions of each name and not just that a name exists. This ngram[1] shows that war in Donbas is way more common than Donbas war with an emergance in litterature in 2014 that indicates this context. This is confirmed against google scholar war in Donbas 3,249 hits [2] and Donbas war 1,270 hits [3]. A perusal of the war in Donbas search is not indicating any other context. Incidentally, my search of google books gives 74 hits for war in Donbas [4] and 71 hits for Donbas war [5]. WP:PRECISION/WP:TITLEDAB pertain to actual conflicts of title in WP title space. There is no actual title conflict to be resolved. COMMONNAME carries more weight in WP:CRITERIA than CONCISION and the difference in concision is so marginal as to not displace COMMONNAME. This RM is a WOFTAM deserving a speedy close. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:01, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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In infobox Belligerents add republic of stanakhov (2014-2015) Josipizbejha (talk) 15:15, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Chess enjoyer (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]