Talk:Rajput

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States name in region section.

Those are states name should be in States section not in region. I'm blocked for my good faith tweets. Check my edit history on this page all were good faith edits. Wikipedia is doomed by egoistic hierarchial dictators. Sad state. Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 13:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In popular culture

I made a "In popular culture" section on this page, which has been reverted by lazy senior editors without any reason, that was not even controversial or disputed. I thought senior editors are here to make wikipedia better not to ruin it. Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pyaaz Kachori, I reverted your edits since you violated the 'Consensus Required' restriction applicable on this article! And you had reverted LukeEmily's edits (LE provided proper edit summary) without any explanation, which is simply not acceptable for a contentious article like this! Moreover, there's some problem with your editing; for example, you had added Kshatriya in the infobox in spite of being fully aware that their varna status is disputed! If you continue such behaviour and engage in personal attacks (calling editors 'lazy' and all) instead of WP:FOC, you may be entirely blocked from editing; please be careful! @LukeEmily: I saw your edit summary, but please respond to the concerns of Pyaaz Kachori here, when you are active! Let's wait for LE's response. Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I was not "fully aware that the varna status is disputed", and you had already reversed the varna-related edit before @LukeEmily did. So, at the time he reverted all of my work, there was no “Varna = Kshatriya” content present. Secondly, there was nothing controversial in my edits that required a consensus on the talk page. The only potentially controversial edit was the varna one, which, as mentioned, had already been reverted by you. I reverted @LukeEmily’s edit to address the minor issues he raised—and I corrected them accordingly. The entire summary of my edits on that page is available, and there isn’t a single instance of vandalism or any attempt to act mischievously. Yet, I’m the one who got blocked and received threats. Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please wait for LukeEmily's response! Considering the 'Consensus Required' CTOP restriction applicable here, we need to hear from LE, and then achieve consensus for your edits! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 06:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It all started with him, and now he is nowhere to be found. Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 06:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Ekdalian:. @Pyaaz Kachori:, you have been an editor since 2023 and have more than 1000 edits so I am sure you are familiar with the policy of no personal attacks. Calling edits as "dictatorial behavior" or calling senior editors "lazy" is not acceptable - please focus on content not the editors. In your revert you did not address all concerns, for example, you cannot added a prominent notable Maharana Pratap, as he does not represent the caste. Rajput is a caste of farmers who took arms and gained political power and influence after serving the Mughals - similar to the Maratha caste (with the exception of Shivaji who fought against the Mughals later). Second, the infobox fields that you added (although blank) varna,jati,gotra, veda , victory_weapon etc. , why are they relevant? The movie that you added , why is it relevant to Rajput caste? The description shows that the families are Rajput. But other than that what is the relevance? Does it show aspects of Rajput culture or traditions of Rajputs? If yes, I have no objection. For example, we cannot put Sherlock Holmes movies/serials starring Jeremy Brett as part of White popular culture even though most characters if not all are white. I can add your other edits one by one.LukeEmily (talk) 07:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, I called you a dictator due to your specifically dictatorial behavior targeting only my edits and this particular page. For example, take a look at the articles Rajpurohit and Charan—both mention notable personalities pictures from those communities, yet no such action was taken there. Similarly, the article Jat contains an "In popular culture" section, but again, no action was taken. Moreover, films like Rajput (film) and Kshatriya (film) specifically portray Rajput culture, while movies like Samrat Prithviraj and Padmaavat are based on historical Rajput heroes. Comparing this to listing "Sherlock Holmes movies/serials starring Jeremy Brett as part of White popular culture" is completely inappropriate. It's also quite clear that you are not Indian, and therefore not the right person to understand the cultural and caste nuances of India and to make such edits. Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 08:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you could have simply reverted only the problematic part of the edits instead of undoing all of my work. If that’s not laziness, then what is? Isn't a full revert H:RV typically done only in cases of WP:VD, not when someone is making good-faith edits aimed at improving Wikipedia? Pyaaz Kachori (talk) 08:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is not laziness. At times, it becomes difficult to undo part of changes when the changes span multiple sections, infobox, images etc. And it is easy to make editing mistakes. Anyway, my apologies for undoing some valid changes inadvertently, I did plan to restore them eventually. I have restored them now. Let me know if you want to add any more changes.LukeEmily (talk) 13:08, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edits

@TypeInfo Can you clarify why you reverted the edits I had made here? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:24, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TypeInfo:, I had the same question as @LeónGonsalvesofGoa:. Maybe I missed something. LukeEmily (talk) 00:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Add Notable Scholarly Mention of Kamboja Assimilation in Rajput Identity under 'Rajput' Article

Kambojahistory (talk) 12:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Integration of Kambojas into Rajput Identity

Several historians have written that during the early medieval period, many warrior tribes such as the Kambojas were gradually assimilated into the Rajput identity. This process is known as Rajputization, where martial groups who were originally outside the traditional Vedic social system adopted Rajput customs, gained land ownership, served in military positions, and participated in elite marriage networks.^[1][2][3]

The Kambojas are an ancient warrior tribe mentioned in texts like the Mahabharata and Manusmriti. Over time, some sections of the Kambojas adopted Rajput customs and were absorbed into the Rajput fold. Even today, many Hindu Kamboj families in Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, and western Uttar Pradesh identify as Kamboj Rajput, believing themselves to be part of the wider Rajput warrior tradition.^[4][5]

This is similar to what happened with other communities like the Shakas and Hunas, who also underwent a similar transformation and became part of the Rajput social identity.

References

1. Richard M. Eaton, A Social History of the Deccan, 1300–1761: Eight Indian Lives, Cambridge University Press, 2005, p. 12.
2. Nicholas B. Dirks, Castes of Mind: Colonialism and the Making of Modern India, Princeton University Press, 2001, p. 218.
3. Burton Stein, A History of India, Oxford University Press, 1980, pp. 107–108.
4. K.S. Singh (Anthropological Survey of India), People of India: National Series Volume VI, 1997, pp. 582–584.
5. Romila Thapar, Early India: From the Origins to AD 1300, University of California Press, 2004, p. 340.

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Please consider adding the following well-sourced and academically supported section under a relevant heading in the article (e.g. under "History" or as a new section titled "Kamboja Rajputs"):

Kamboja Rajputs

Several historians and anthropologists have documented the inclusion of the Kamboja tribe into the Rajput social structure during the early medieval period through the process of Rajputization. According to K.S. Singh, Director‑General of the Anthropological Survey of India, many Kamboj communities in Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, and western Uttar Pradesh identify as Hindu Rajputs and trace their lineage to the ancient warrior Kamboja tribe.^[1]

Historian K.S. Singh further confirms this, stating that several Kamboja clans were gradually absorbed into the Rajput community due to their martial traditions and adoption of Kshatriya customs.Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).^[2][3][4]

These Rajputized Kambojas often claim Chandravanshi or Suryavanshi descent, continuing to uphold Rajput traditions in various parts of North India. Kambojahistory (talk) 03:40, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Partly done: Added everything as a sub-section in the History section, except for the last sentence (thought it would be strange to suddenly start talking about how Kamboja Rajputs are like in the present day in the history section) ApexParagon (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. Singh, K.S. (1997). People of India: National Series Volume VI. Anthropological Survey of India. pp. 582–584. ISBN 9780195633542.
2. Stein, Burton (1998). A History of India. Oxford University Press. pp. 107–108. ISBN 9781405195096.
3. Eaton, Richard M. (2005). A Social History of the Deccan, 1300–1761. Cambridge University Press. p. 12. ISBN 9780521716277.
4. Dirks, Nicholas B. (2001). Castes of Mind: Colonialism and the Making of Modern India. Princeton University Press. p. 218. ISBN 9780691088945.