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I'm not sure what's being said by the paragraph in Reactions. The source is a speech by President Milanović in which he's talking in more than the usual amount of politician slick talk. If he's suggesting, like I think he's suggesting, that NSATU is being used to sneak active support into the conflict than that's a valid criticism to have on the page. I'm just not sure that's what he's saying.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 23:59, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same, I don't know if it's a problem with the translation, or if context was left out of the quote, but I can't parse what he's trying to say. MilesVorkosigan (talk) 17:14, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Lklundin, hi. Just noticed your adding to the article. May I suggest my infobox draft at the talk page for you to review and take care of. As an IP-editor, I'm under potential WP:RUSUKR sanctions and can only request formal Extended-protected edit. Please feel free to copy-edit: sure not much to revise. Thank you. 78.81.123.235 (talk) 14:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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NATO Security Assistance and Training Ukraine
Also known as	NSATU, Ukraine mission
Founder	North Atlantic Council
Founding leader	ACO (w/ SHAPE, ADCON)
Leader	(first) Christopher Cavoli GEN Alexus Grynkewich (since JUL 4, 2025)
Military leader	SACEUR (OPCON)
Political leader	NAC, with DPPC [uk][a]
NSATU Commander	LTG Curtis Buzzard[b]
Unit type	Operational command
Founding directives	Voluntary non-legally binding Ukraine response consolidator
Foundation	JUL 11, 2024
Dates of operation	DEC 18, 2024-present
Country	(recipient)  Ukraine
Allegiance	NATO
Motives	Ukraine to prevail, Russia to be deterred[3]
Headquarters	Germany 50°02′59″N 8°19′31″E / 50.0498°N 8.3254°E / 50.0498; 8.3254
Active regions	ACO AOR
Major actions	AFU security assistance
Status	Multinational, active
Size	HHBN-equivalent
Part of	NATO Enhanced Forward Presence (as Command)
Allies	31 contributing countries: NATO members' forces, except:[4][5] • Belgian Armed Forces •  Armed Forces of Croatia •  Luxembourg Armed Forces • Spanish Armed Forces Components of partner's military:  Australian Defence Force  New Zealand Armed Forces  Armed Forces of Ukraine Mission  •  Commands • Alliances: File:EUMAM Ukraine logo.png EUMAM UA UDCG SAG-U CoW IDCC[c]
Opponents	(to be deterred): Armed Forces of RF  Belarus[d]
Notes Defence Policy and Planning Committee of NATO. Concurrently COM SAG-U (from June 2024).[2] International Donors Coordination Centre, before 2025, having handed over its responsibilities to NSATU.[6]: 37 [7]: 44 Table 10  Since 2022, when Belarus allowed Russia to use its territory to launch the invasion and to launch missiles into Ukraine. See: Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine
NSATU AFOMSU Outline NATO Security Assistance and Training for Ukraine Assistance et formation de l'OTAN en matière de sécurité pour l'Ukraine (AFOMSU, French) «Підготовка та сприяння НАТО Україні з безпеки» (Командування, Ukrainian) Clay Kaserne (garrison patron Gen. Clay, Mil. Governor of U.S. Occupation Zone in Germany, 1947- 49). 2012 Founded July 11, 2024 (2024-07-11) (inaugurated)[8] 18 December 2024; 8 months ago (18 December 2024) (activated)[9] Allegiance SHAPE Type Combined joint operational Commd Role Provisioning of equipment, training to AFU by NATO members/allies AFU long-term doctrine overseeing Size ~ 350 personnel (from 31 countries, incl. Ukraine)[a] Part of Allied Command Operations Headquarters Clay Kaserne, Wiesbaden-Erbenheim, Hesse, Germany Nickname(s) Ukraine mission Website Official website Commanders Commander 3-star rank (1st holder) LTG Curtis A. Buzzard  United States Army[b] Deputy Commander Major General Maik Keller  German Army[c] DCOM, LNO Ukraine (1st) BRG Hennadii Shapovalov  Ukrainian Ground Forces ACOM, Force Dev. Support (first holder) Brig Richard Bell  British Army[11] ACOM, ECLS (first) BRG Witold Bartoszek  Polish Land Forces Enlisted Advisor (first holder) Srg.Major Mark Morgan  United States Marine Corps[d]
Today part of 6,700t/month average throughput[e] 1500 equipment movements[f] 25,000 AFU personnel training[g][15]
NSATU • SAG-U • EUMAM UA SAG-U–NSATU joint coordination[h] EUMAM UA-NSATU data sharing, Ukrainian LNO staff rotation[16]
Footnotes As of July 2025^[update] HQ-based only. Seven hundred, if accounted for collocated SAG-U with its assisting personnel in SHAPE, Casteau, Belgium, and NSATU's 2 logistics hubs: one in Rzeszów, Poland, and another under development in Câmpia Turzii, Romania. Australia and New Zealand are working closely with representatives of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in addition to 28 NATO countries.[9][10] Eventually 700 personnel are to be staffed in NSATU.[7]: 44  Starting December 2024, as dual-hatted COM SAG-U (since August 2024). Since May 2025.[9] Since December 2024.[12] As of August 2025^[update], cargo tonnage facilitated through Poland LEN hub by NSATU only. As of August 2025^[update], managed by NSATU since inception. Overall under the command, 60,000 movements were facilitated since NSATU is responsible for Poland LEN hub, which started in March.[14] As of July 2025^[update], coordinated since March 2025. Here’s a snapshot of the current NSATU–SAG-U joint efforts that were confirmed at the 21 July 2025 UDCG extended meeting: US–NATO co‑funding mechanism (new channel announced by US president Donald Trump and Secretary General of NATO Mark Rutte for European and Canadian allies to pool funds to purchase US‑made weapons and technology for Ukraine providing faster access to high‑demand systems); Air defense boost (packages of Patriot missile systems and other advanced air‑defense assets pledged by allies to counter Russia’s intensified missile and drone strikes); Industrial and financial backing (long‑term funding streams to expand defense production capacity in Europe and North America to replenish stocks while sustaining Ukraine’s needs over multiple years).
Preceded by International Donors Coordination Centre

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Ukraine mission DEC 2024 (IOC) APR 2025 (FOC) present
Part of foreign military assistance during ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine
Operational scope	Training, equipment coordination Force generation Logistics
Locations	Clay Kaserne HQ, DE 50°02′58″N 08°19′28″E / 50.04944°N 8.32444°E / 50.04944; 8.32444 Jasionka Logistics Enabling Node (LEN-P), Remote Maintenance and Distribution Cell–Ukraine (RDC-U), PL[a] 50°06′36″N 22°01′08″E / 50.11000°N 22.01889°E / 50.11000; 22.01889 Zurawica RTW (Regional Technical Workshop), PL Câmpia Turzii LEN-R, RO
Planned	on 24-month horizon
Planned by	DPPC [uk] w/ NAC
Commanded by	LTG Curtis Buzzard[b] w/ SACEUR,[17] DSACEUR Admiral Keith Blount
Objective	Enduring, predictable, coherent Allied doctrinal support of AFU for its NATO membership, full forces' interoperability
Date	18 December 2024 (2024-12-18) – present (CET UTC+01:00/CEST UTC+02:00)
Executed by	COM NSATU/SAG-U (dual hatted) combined w/ UDCG deliverables[18]
Outcome	Ongoing and evolving:[15] Allies policy harmonization Unity of burden-sharing Frictions deconfliction
HQ LEN-P, RDC-U, RTW NATO | NSATU main operational sites: DE, PL LEN-R class=notpageimage| NATO eastern flank | NSATU site RO[c] Notes The LEN-P synchronizes the inbound aid receipt, transfer and onward movement of donated materiel to the AFU. The RDC-U is responsible for the maintenance and repair of equipment once donated to the AFU.[7]: 50–51  Starting December 2024, as dual-hatted COM SAG-U (since August 2024).[2] As of 2026^[update], contingency facility, under renovation

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References

1. "nsatu-eDmnN1.png".
2. "About NSATU" (PDF). shape.nato.int. Retrieved 16 July 2025.
3. "SACEUR briefs German cabinet on security environment". SHAPE Public Affairs Office. 27 August 2025. Retrieved 29 August 2025 – via SHAPE.NATO.int.
4. "Strategic Headwinds: Understanding the Forces Shaping Ukraine's Path to Peace". CSIS. Retrieved 21 August 2025.
5. Massie, Justin; Tallová, Barbora (10 April 2025). "Friends in need, friends indeed? Explaining variation in military support to Ukraine". European Journal of International Security. Cambridge University Press: 1-26. doi:10.1017/eis.2025.13.
6. Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q4FY2024 (PDF) (Report). 13 November 2024. Retrieved 28 July 2025 – via media.defence.gov.
7. Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q3FY2025 (PDF) (Report). 15 August 2025. Retrieved 15 August 2025 – via stateoig.gov. Cite error: The named reference "OAR2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
8. "NSATU Assumes Responsibilities to Support Ukraine". SHAPE.nato.int. 18 December 2024. Retrieved 16 July 2025.
9. Siebold, Sabine (2 July 2025). "Military aid increasingly focuses on boosting Ukraine's defence industry". Reuters. Retrieved 16 July 2025.
10. Soare, Andreea (3 October 2024). "S-a aprobat participarea Armatei Române la misiunea de asistență de securitate și instruire NATO-NSATU și înființarea unui centru de instruire maritimă pentru militarii ucraineni, în România". mediafax.ro (in Romanian).
11. "SACEUR on Support for Ukraine: We Are Moving as Quickly as We Can". NSATU HQ Public Affairs Office. 28 July 2025. Retrieved 5 August 2025 – via shape.nato.int.
12. "Leadership". shape.nato.int/nsatu. Retrieved 16 July 2025.
13. "Netherlands uses new NATO channel to pay for US arms for Ukraine". Reuters.com. 4 August 2025. Retrieved 4 August 2025. In a statement, the alliance said, "Working closely with Ukraine and the United States, the Supreme Allied Commander Europe Alexus Grynkewich will validate packages that correspond to Ukraine's needs, such as air defence, ammunition and other critical equipment for rapid delivery from U.S. stockpiles".
14. Matiushenko, Ievgen (29 August 2025). "Major General Maik Keller, NSATU Deputy Commander - Ukrinform: Exclusive". Ukrinform. Retrieved 30 August 2025.
15. Allison, George (12 June 2025). "New NATO command now coordinates 60% of Ukraine aid". UK Defence Journal. Retrieved 24 August 2025.
16. "Strong Together: EU and NATO Intensify Training Cooperation in Strausberg". NSATU HQ Public Affairs Office. 29 July 2025. Retrieved 21 August 2025.
17. "Transfer of Patriot units to Kyiv being prepared, says NATO's top commander". Reuters.com. 17 July 2025. Retrieved 17 July 2025 – via Reuters. «Preparations are underway, we are working very closely with the Germans on the Patriot transfer», Alexus Grynkewich told a conference in the German city of Wiesbaden. «The guidance that I have been given has been to move out as quickly as possible.»
18. Slattery, Gram; Stone, Mike; Landay, Jonathan; Holland, Steve (17 July 2025). "Trump promised Patriots for Ukraine. Now Europe has to provide them". Reuters. Retrieved 17 July 2025.

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NATO-Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Centre
Also known as	JATEC
Founder	North Atlantic Council
Founding leader	ACT (with HQ SACT)
Leader	(first) GAA Philippe Lavigne Admiral Pierre Vandier (since SEP 23, 2024)
Military leader	SACT
Political leader	NAC, with DPPC [uk][a]
JATEC Commander	BRG Wojciech Ozga
Founding directives	Knowledge repository (ongoing, other wars)
Organization type	Sui generis jointly-run
Foundation	JUL 11, 2024[b]
Dates of operation	DEC 16, 2024-present
Country	Poland
Allegiance	UKR NATO
Motives	Ukraine to prevail Russia to be deterred
Headquarters	Bydgoszcz, PL (OpCenter)
Major actions	War learning (military education and training)
Status	Multinational, active
Size	~70 personnel
Part of	JALLC-UKR Initiative[c]
Allies	Contributing countries:[d] NATO members' forces, except: • Belgian Armed Forces •  Armed Forces of Croatia •  Luxembourg Armed Forces • Spanish Armed Forces Components of partner's military: Defence Forces of Georgia  Armed Forces of Ukraine Mission • HQs • OpCenter: EUMAM Ukraine NSATU/JFTC/JALLC
Opponents	(to be deterred): Armed Forces of RF  Belarus[e]
Website	Official website
Notes Defence Policy and Planning Committee of NATO. at the 2024 Washington NATO summit, after the 15 February 2024 approval of the NATO-Ukraine Council (NUC)[1] The JALLC-UKR Initiative launched in 2024 is connected to the Joint Analysis and Lessons Learned Centre (JALLC, of NATO SACT), which is based in Monsanto, Lisbon, Portugal. It is a dedicated effort within JALLC focused on the Russo-Ukrainian War. JALLC-UKR Initiative Information Centre on the NATO Lessons Learned Portal, in September 2024, published a report Two Years of NATO Lessons Relating to Russia's War Against Ukraine, presenting findings from analyses between March 2022 and March 2024. The report covers command and control, joint effects, and cooperation with organizations, and it highlights the dual nature of lessons learned, including new technologies and conventional warfare aspects. It emphasizes the need for NATO to develop new technologies while maintaining traditional methods. ^[to be determined]:As of September 2025^[update], abstainers list includes non-participants in NSATU operations. Since 2022, when Belarus allowed Russia to use its territory to launch the invasion and to launch missiles into Ukraine. See: Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine
JATEC Outline NATO-Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Centre (Q130565143) (JATEC) OTAN-Ukraine centre commun d'analyse, d'entraînement et d'éducation (CCAEE, French) Об'єднаний центр аналізу, підготовки та освіти «НАТО–Україна» (Ukrainian) Center platz Founded December 16, 2024 (2024-12-16) (activated)[a] February 17, 2025 (2025-02-17) (IOC) (expected) JAN 2026 (FOC) Allegiance NATO UKR Type NATO-Ukraine jointly run “sui generis” civil-military working level organization Role Application of lessons from Russo-Ukrainian War for strategy, policy, doctrine, tactics and operations Support to successful achievement of interoperability objectives Joint tactical level training of NATO and partner forces Size 74 personnel (incl. 20 Ukrainians)[b] Part of Allied Command Transformation Ops. Center Poniatowski Barracks [pl], 1 Potockiego Str. 85-309, Bydgoszcz, PL-04, Poland Commanders Commander 1-star rank (first holder) BRG Wojciech Ozga  Poland Armed Forces[c] DIR Program Implementation (first holder) COL Val. Vyshnivskyi  Armed Forces of Ukraine[5] Chair Senior Advisory Board (first holder) Tom Goffus, retired colonel, A-SG of NATO Ops.  United States Air Force
Senior Advisory Board COL Tom Goffus, A-SG, NATO Ops.[d] BRG Wojciech Ozga, COM JATEC BRG Serhii Boiev, Deputy MinDef UA BRG Oleh Apostol, Deputy CiC AFU Patrick Turner, Head of the NRU[e] Polish AF representatives[8][9]
Footnotes by order of the North Atlantic Council[2] Expected to be staffed by 2026 in OpCenter.[3] With 33 personnel (IOC), JATEC is collocated with NATO's Joint Force Training Centre (JFTC), Force Integration Unit, 3rd Signal Battalion, Military Police Centre of Excellence, Communications and Information Support Centre.[4] Ex officio JATEC SAB member.[2] Chairman of the Board. Chaired the 25 April 2025 SAB Kyiv meeting with agenda (below): Integration of Ukrainian and NATO efforts at JATEC Building resilience in defense digital infrastructure and critical systems Strengthening military education and interoperability programs Fast-tracking innovation against current battlefield threats (notably fiber-optic drones and precision-guided munitions).[6] NATO Representation to Ukraine. Senior NATO Representative in Ukraine since September 2024.[7]

References

1. "Joint NATO-Ukraine training center opens in Poland". The New Voice of Ukraine. 17 February 2025. Retrieved 24 August 2025.
2. "NATO-Ukraine Joint Analysis, Training, and Education Centre opens!". gov.pl. Ministry of Defence of Poland. 17 February 2025. Retrieved 27 July 2025.
3. "Ukraine, NATO to jointly build up experience at JATEC – Stefanishyna: Exclusive". Ukrinform. 18 February 2025. Retrieved 25 August 2025.
4. "Bydgoszcz – the NATO Capital of Poland". The Joint Force Training Centre (JFTC). Retrieved 28 July 2025.
5. Onyshchenko, Yurii (17 February 2025). "NSATU та JATEC: як працюють нові структури НАТО, що допомагають Україні [NSATU and JATEC: How New NATO's Structure Elements Helping Ukraine Work]" (in Ukrainian). Retrieved 29 August 2025 – via armyinform.com.ua.
6. "Senior NATO advisors meet in Kyiv to discuss priorities for joint NATO-Ukraine lessons learned centre". NATO Press Office. 25 April 2025. Retrieved 25 August 2025 – via NATO.int.
7. "Patrick Turner, 2024". 17 April 2025. Retrieved 25 August 2025 – via NATO.int.
8. "Ukraine and NATO outline JATEC priorities for 2026". Retrieved 25 August 2025 – via MOD.gov.ua.
9. "Strengthening cooperation with NATO to Advance Ukraine's Membership in the Alliance: Rustem Umerov". Retrieved 25 August 2025 – via MOD.gov.ua.

78.81.123.235 (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — 🪫Volatile ^{📲T | ⌨️C} 18:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@VolatileAnomaly, again spot on with the infoboxes. Thanks a lot. Have a nice eeekend. 78.81.123.235 (talk) 19:10, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]