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Unobtanium/Unobtainium

I'm relatively new to editing Wikipedia and I was dismayed to receive a notification on my talk page from DonIago accusing me of making an unconstructive and disruptive edit by changing "Unobtanium" in the lede to "Unobtainium". My attention was directed to an inline citation which cites three sources. The first one, from NBC News, does not mention either spelling. Nor does the second source, from the Boston Globe. The third source does use this spelling, but it's just one source. Meanwhile, the Wikipedia page about this concept spells it "Unobtainium". I think these things taken together justify the edit but of course I'm open to hearing people out. I also feel like slapping a "unconstructive" and "disruptive" template on my talk page is a huge over-reaction and very hostile to newcomers! Itsnotacookie (talk) 00:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never Released Scenes of the Film

I was thinking someone more qualified than me could add a section in which the never released scenes of the film are talked about. The main problem of doing this is (I haven't looked into it but I'm pretty sure) that the only source for this section would be a YouTube channel and it's videos. I was thinking this section could be added in the lower section of 'Releases'. I've started writing the 1st draft of the proposed paragraph, use it in any way if you want to:

Between 2018 December 14th and 2019 May 3rd, 28 completely unreleased and unfinished clips and scenes of the film were released by the YouTube channel Rainbowhawk1993. These clips give a glimpse into what the movie looked like in previs. They also provide additional never seen story details. For example, in 12^th deleted scene clip, its made much more obvious that...

At this point I stopped writing because I lost motivation and hope, feeling pretty sure that my edit would be undone immediately. The last two edits I tried to make face planted; "the sources weren't good enough.", for some reason YouTube can't be used for a source even if it's about a meme. But, that's Wikipedia for you I guess. Anyway, I hope someone can expand on this and potentially find more sources, because I think that it is crucial for this information to be in this article.

Note: The film's length with the deleted scenes included would have been about 3 hours, 34 minutes and 5 seconds long.

The Mining Pickaxe (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube channels that are not official are not considered reliable sources, and such an addition would be removed. Personally, I don't think the unreleased/unfinished clips are notable enough for inclusion. Just pulling an example out of thin air, the Avengers: Endgame article mentions deleted scenes three times, and none of them are explicitly detailed. Your intentions are good, but I don't believe this information needs to be included. GSK (talk • edits) 17:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo edit

I am unable to edit this page yet. Under cast > Laz Alonso, the word "betrothed" is repeated and there is no period at the end of the last sentence. Krisvyre (talk) 13:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed Thanks for bringing this to our attention! DonIago (talk) 13:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2024

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Add a section for logo referencing that the logo is using the front Papyrus, as referenced by Ryan Gosling in the SNL short Papyrus released on October 1 2017. Ecordeir1 (talk) 18:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Question: Can you provide a more significant source? The font being referenced by SNL seems trivial. DonIago (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here are two articles outlining responses to the skit from James Cameron and Jon Landau. Perhaps we can make an edit to note the logo has been noted having many similarities to the Papyrus font, as referenced in the SNL skit, and loosely confirmed by James Cameron and Jon Landau.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/james-cameron-responds-snl-sketch-avatar-font-1234650817/

https://ew.com/movies/avatar-the-way-of-water-saturday-night-live-papyrus-sketch/ Ecordeir1 (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm willing to defer to other editors, but I'm not really finding this convincing personally. The sources don't say a great deal about the film's use of the font, and just including, "The film used this font and there was an SNL sketch about it..." seems like calling undue attention to a pretty minor point. If there was more information about the film team's decision to use the font or there was more attention to the use of the font itself than the SNL sketch, I'd find that more persuasive, personally. DonIago (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Betty Logan (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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change te reo Māori to Māori language 2407:7000:AB5A:9673:302C:7774:BC8B:49C1 (talk) 22:58, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —Sirdog (talk) 23:32, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Subsequent re-releases" did NOT make it highest grossing movie

I know Wikipedia loves Disney and is quite bias, but the intro section should not be blatantly lying, saying that Avatar only outgrossed Avengers: Endgame because of "several re-releases starting in China" when the truth is it outgrossed it in that one re-release alone. The 2022 re-release added to its box office total, yes, but that was long after it was already number 1. 103.185.242.150 (talk) 20:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Limited Eywa Information

Hi All, I was reading the Avatar (2009 film) page and realized that there was very limited information on Eywa. I looked through the archive and did not find much talk about adding more Eywa info, and searched the Themes in Avatar page also to not find much information about Eywa.

Does anyone else feel that having information about Eywa (as central to the plot) is important to this page, at least as a subsection? Or would this question be more suited for the Themes Talk page? I also saw that searching Eywa redirects to this page—would creating an Eywa page be appropriate? Or would adding Eywa information to Fictional universe of Avatar be better?

I can understand if people feel that too much information on Eywa makes (the) articles read more 'fan' oriented rather than encyclopedic, but I feel that Wikipedia would benefit from expanding on such a core part of the film.

Thanks!

_{This was posted to the Avatar (2009 film), Fictional universe of Avatar, Themes in Avatar Talk pages} Vato Pato (talk) 06:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]