Module talk:Protected edit request

override can only be made on the talk page

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Anyone want to put in another argument to override this check please? Sometimes these are on places like WP:IANB - and it would be useful to enqueue the request to the report and category. — xaosflux Talk 23:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery: this something you could look in to? — xaosflux Talk 13:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Passing |skiptalk=yes now overrides that check. I also removed the check for being on RFPP (part of an idea of mine to merge Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit with the edit request template process that turned out not to work and was abandoned), and fixed a longstanding bug where {{edit protected}} on a non-talk page caused an error. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:09, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Text for template-protected

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Can the text for {{edit template-protected}} be enhanced to mention using {{ETp}} for responses? For example, {{edit semi-protected}} currently displays You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response..—Bagumba (talk) 04:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bagumba I'd support this change. FaviFake (talk) 10:23, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 4 August 2025

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When an edit request is either answered or not answered AND the parameter used in the underlying wikitext for that particular request is |ans= and not |answered=, the texts in the two boxes currently say:

(when not answered:)

[...] To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request. When the request has been completed or denied, please add the |answered=yes parameter to deactivate the template.

(when answered:)

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.



I think they should be changed to say:

(when answered:)

This edit request has been answered. Set the |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

(when not answered:)

[...] To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request. When the request has been completed or denied, please add the |ans=yes parameter to deactivate the template.

FaviFake (talk) 11:02, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This feels like a lot of extra effort for not much value to me. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:39, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. Using |answered= instead of its short alias, |ans=, is more reader-friendly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Changing default icon

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I think that when the |answered= parameter is set to yes, the icon should represent the level of protection instead of just being the default "Information" icon. This would have a few advantages:

  • It makes it easier for future editors to see the level of protection of the page at the time the request was created, as it may differ from the current one.

It also reduces banner blindness. Any icon that's different from the default icons helps with banner blindness and will make custom-made information notices for a single page stand out more. That's why we have icons in the first place.

  • It wouldn't be confusing, since the small version is evidently less prominent compared to the full version. The text also helps. Together, the text and the icon clearly convey both what happened to the request, and the level of protection.
  • It reminds participants of ER discussions of the current protection level for the page, especially if the request was answered recently.

Something like this →

Thoughts? FaviFake (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from § Changing default icon for visibility. Notified: Wikipedia talk:Edit requests, Category talk:Wikipedia edit requests, Template talk:Edit COI, Template talk:Edit semi-protected, Template talk:Edit extended-protected and Template talk:Edit fully-protected. FaviFake (talk) 10:27, 15 November 2025 (UTC)}} FaviFake (talk) 10:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Re the level of protection of the page at the time the request was created, the problem is that protection level detection (which is in Module:Effective protection level) cannot be checked retrospectively - it's always the current prot level that is returned. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:24, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huh. Then why do we have templates for specific page protection levels, such as {{TPER}}? FaviFake (talk) 14:29, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because in the past it wasn't possible to detect the protection level. Once it was, the templates got partially merged, but not fully as IIRC there were still some corner cases. Anomie 15:00, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Do you think a TfD nomination to merge/redirect most of them could succeed? Or has that already been tried? FaviFake (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think Wikipedia:Chesterton's fence strongly applies to that idea. Don't go haring off on that without doing the research. Anomie 15:19, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I know, that's why I asked you, one of the most experienced users of this site. FaviFake (talk) 15:20, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no point, it's needless bureaucracy. When we merge templates, we leave redirects behind, so that old revisions of transcluding pages don't break, and we rarely invoke modules direct from articles - there's usually a wrapper template. {{TPER}}, {{FPER}}, {{EPER}}, {{SPER}} and {{IPER}} are all wrappers for Module:Protected edit request, so they're essentially merged already. In most cases, you can in fact use them interchangeably (even IPER); try going to the talk page of a fully-protected page such as Talk:Biryani, add two or three of these (different ones) and preview without saving - you'll see that there is no difference between the outputs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no point, it's needless bureaucracy
There is, actually.
For example, just the other day, I had used {{FPER}} to ask for an edit to a FP page. I posted the request on a semi-protected page and I specified the page in my comment, not in the template. And I didn't check the output because i knew I had used {{FPER}} so obviously it would show the FP banner, why wouldn’t it?
Then a poor editor saw that the banner actually said "semiprotected" and marked it as done because "i could edit the page myself". Then an admin intervened, pinging the editor and telling them to be more careful, and then fixed the request for me. And then a different admin performed the requested change.
If {{FPER}} had been a redirect, none of this mess would've happened and 2 fewer people would've been involved, because I would've used the more general {{ER}} template and I would've checked the output to make sure it detected the correct page. FaviFake (talk) 15:30, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is there really no reason to keep them separate? The only benefit of keeping 5 different wrappers is this:

If one or more of the pages are unprotected, or multiple pages with different protection levels are specified, the page is categorized in Category:Wikipedia edit requests possibly using incorrect templates. Otherwise, if the force parameter is not set, it is automatically categorized in the correct protection level.

So basically the only benefit is: IFF the pages have different protection levels or are unprotected and the user wishes to force their choice of protection using the |force=y parameter, then they would have to manually add |template.
This sounds like a terrible reason to keep these codebases separate, so I do plan on going to TfD if it really is the only benefit. FaviFake (talk) 16:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 TfD created. These template should be modified to add this at the top of each one:
{{subst:Tfm|Edit protected|Edit semi-protected|Edit template-protected|Edit extended-protected|Edit fully-protected|Edit interface-protected|heading=Edit protected}}
 Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 November 21 § November 21 FaviFake (talk) 18:13, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 18:14, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've withdrawn my nomination. The TfD tamplates have to be removed by a template editor from these pages. FaviFake (talk) 20:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]