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Purpose of rollback right

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I read the project page and I still don't understand, how exactly Twinkle's rollback & restore version is any less powerful than Rollback. I came here to request this right, but I'm not even sure if I really get anything I can't already do. It's so easy and convenient to be able to leave custom summaries, or be able to choose one specific revision to restore rather than the tool choosing a revision itself, which may itself be problematic. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 16:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your mileage may vary. I use both, as well as popups and manual reverting sometimes, but I use rollback by far the most. Rollback is quicker, more efficient, and more reliable, as everything is done on the servers, whereas Twinkle relies on JavaScript in your browser. I'm not sure, but I guess Twinkle might involve fetching the old content, then re-uploading it? From the client point of view, rollback involves a simple HTTP request. Rollback can sometimes work better when the revert is dispatched to a background tab, if browser tabs need to have focus to run JS effectively. Rollback also doesn't add pages to your watchlist, if that's a setting you have enabled. It doesn't, by default, have all the things you like about Twinkle, but it gets the job done most efficiently when applied correctly. -- zzuuzz (talk) 17:25, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In terms of functionality, the Twinkle rollback button is effectively identical to the software rollback. The software rollback may be slightly faster because of the reasons zzuuzz mentioned, but for everyday purposes, the Twinkle rollback button can stand in the place of the software rollback almost completely. In my view, the primary reason we continue to gate rollback behind WP:PERM is because certain fast-reversion software like Huggle require the rollback permission, and we want to check whether editors are ready to use such software before they begin using it. Mz7 (talk) 20:17, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Without having seen this thread, I recently made some changes to the page that include details on the differences between Twinkle rollback and true rollback. I will say, re Mz7, I've had rollback for 9+1⁄2 years, have never touched Huggle, and would still hate to ever part with the permission. The speed increase does add up—when I have to use Twinkle rollback on other wikis it rather frustrates me—but most importantly the ability to do mass rollbacks really is a huge time-saver when dealing with fast vandals or cleaning up after sockpuppets. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 20:22, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Right, my point was more that, if it weren't for the Huggle/fast-reversion angle to the permission, there isn't that big a reason in my mind to simply make the rollback permission available to all autoconfirmed users, just as Twinkle rollback is. Mz7 (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mz7: Hmm. When combined with the right scripts, like User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js, it has a decent attack potential. Some wikis do hand rollback out automatically, but usually it's more like extendedconfirmed here. dewiki, for instance, does it at 60 days + 300 mainspace edits. But I mean, I take your point. If you ask me, though, we should be moving in the opposite direction. We have too many non-rollbacker recent change patrollers using Twinkle rollback to revert every IP they see; I'd rather we made it that to use any pseudo-rollback tool you need to be a rollbacker. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 21:35, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that the “Rollback” button doesn’t always show in View History (Twinkle’s Rollback button). I have this habit of going back to View History after reviewing edits, because I used to use Undo (I didn’t start using Twinkle yet at that time). Maybe a reason for someone to request for Rollback user rights. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 20:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Recent changes

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Is there a way to avoid accidentally clicking "rollback" on the Wikipedia:Recent changes page on a mobile phone? JacktheBrown (talk) 22:11, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § Adding checkuser-temporary-account to rollbackers and NPP folks

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § Adding checkuser-temporary-account to rollbackers and NPP folks. Sohom (talk) 19:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback looks different

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For me, the rollback example looks different from the example, and is different for each thing. For example, on page histories it looks like (rollback: n edits | undo | thank), in the watchlist it is (rollback | thank), on user contribution pages it looks like (rollback: 1 edit | thank), on diffs it is Example (talk | contribs) [rollback: 1 edit], and on Special:RecentChanges it is (rollback | thank). --pro-anti-air (talk) 17:49, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of these look like the example in the page. --pro-anti-air (talk) 17:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]