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Join the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!

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Greetings!

The AfroCine Project invites you to join us again this October and November, the two months which are dedicated to improving content about the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.

Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand contents in Wikimedia projects which are connected to this scope. Kindly list your username under the participants section to indicate your interest in participating in this contest.

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Welcome to the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!

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Greetings!

The AfroCine Project core team is happy to inform you that the Months of African Cinema Contest is happening again this year in October and November. We invite Wikipedians all over the world to join in improving content related to African cinema on Wikipedia!

Please list your username under the participants’ section of the contest page to indicate your interest in participating in this contest. The term "African" in the context of this contest, includes people of African descent from all over the world, which includes the diaspora and the Caribbean.

The following prizes would be recognized at the end of the contest:

  • Overall winner
    • 1st - $500
    • 2nd - $200
    • 3rd - $100
  • Diversity winner - $100
  • Gender-gap fillers - $100
  • Language Winners - up to $100*

Also look out for local prizes from affiliates in your countries or communities! For further information about the contest, the prizes and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. We look forward to your participation.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 23:20, 30th September 2021 (UTC)

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Request for Adoption

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Hi Versace1608. I have joined wikipedia last November and found it of great interest. I have edited many existing articles and also drafted articles from my side. I thought it would be helpful for me to ask for adoption to be guided in Wikipedia path to make valuable contribution in future with authors with great experience. I found you have decent experience from adopt a user page to take guidance from and learn. Looking forward to learn from you. Thanks. Gardenkur

Bashorun Gaa and Versus

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Hi Versace1608, I came here to ask for advice on an article. I made an article on 9ice's album Versus a while back and I wanted to also make one for Bashorun Gaa. They were released as a double album, so I was considering merging the two into one article. I was thinking that I would name it "Bashorun Gaa and Versus" and having two different sections for the article for Bashorun Gaa and the one for Versus, with the lead section being something like "On 7 December 2011, 9ice released his fourth studio album, a double-disc CD: Bashorun Gaa and Versus." I don't know. What do you think I should do? Should I keep them separate or merge them? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 03:38, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi OsigbemheEJB, thanks for reaching out to me. Are there reliable sources out there that call the album by that particular title? If so, then you can go ahead and rename the article. If not, then you should keep the current title since it is the common name. If you check out other projects that have been released as double albums, the alternative title was only listed in the lede and body. I know Taylor Swift's latest album, The Totured Poets Department, was released as a double album. Perhaps you can check out the article and see how they included info about the secondary release. Hope this helps you out.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 09:49, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OsigbemheEJB: OutKast's album, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, was issued as a double album by the record label that released it. It is actually two separate albums packaged together and released as a singular double album. One thing to note is that the title contains both albums. Like I said earlier, if you have reliable sources to support moving the article to a different title, then you definitely should expand the article and move it.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 10:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Versace1608, so I've done some more research and I figured out that Bashorun Gaa and Versus were released simultaneously but aren't exactly a double album. Reviews of those albums were about their respective topic, so I may just keep the articles separate. Only problem about that is the lead section. Both albums are classified as 9ice's fourth studio album. My initial lead section for the Bashorun Gaa article was this:
"Bashorun Gaa is the first disc of the double album released by Nigerian musician 9ice. It was released on 7 December 2011 by Alapomeji Ancestral Records, alongside Versus, the second disc. The album features a sole guest appearance from Vector and production handled by Tee-Y Mix, Spellz, Sossick, Cheepho, Pastor Child, and Puffy Tee. Bashorun Gaa was supported by the singles "Shakashiki", "Adigun Ojuwonlo", "Attitude", and "Everyday"."
How do you think I should word it? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 20:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OsigbemheEJB: Bashorun Gaa and Versus are separate albums despite reliable sources calling them a "double album". G.R.A and C.N.N have also been called a "double album" despite being separate projects. Its obvious that 9ice likes releasing two albums on the same day. He has done that on two different occasions. Brymo did the same thing in 2021 and reliable sources in Nigeria called 9:Esan and 9:Harmattan & Winter a double album. I think Bashorun Gaa deserves a separate article if it has been critically reviewed. The paragraph below is an example of how the lede can be written:
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Bashorun Gaa is the fifth studio album by Nigerian rapper 9ice, released by Tjoe Records on 12 December 2011. Due to its simultaneous release with Versus, it was labeled a double album. Bashorun Gaa comprises eighteen tracks and features a sole guest appearance from rapper Vector. Its production was handled by Tee-Y Mix, Spellz, Sossick, Cheepho, Pastor Child, and Puffy Tee. The album was supported by four singles: "Shakashiki", "Adigun Ojuwonlo", "Attitude", and "Everyday".
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Makes sense. Thanks for the help! OsigbemheEJB (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Singles and music videos issue

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Hey Versace1608, I've been working on updating Ijele the Traveler, one of Flavour's albums, and I wanted to ask you about something. You know when artists release albums, they usually release music videos for them afterwards? I've been getting them confused with singles, and I've been thinking about whether or not certain music videos count as singles or not. Flavour is a prime example. He rarely releases them prior to the release of his albums. Like in Blessed (2012) and Thankful (2014) only one single and music video was released before the release of the album ("Baby Oku" for Blessed and "Wake Up" for Thankful). The rest of the songs only got videos after the albums were already out. So my question is: should only the pre-album ones be considered singles, or do the post-album music videos also count as singles? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:41, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi OsigbemheEJB, thanks for reaching out. Songs released prior to an album's release are generally considered singles. I personally regard songs that have music videos as singles. Exceptions are when every song on the album is accompanied by a music video. Davido's debut album Omo Baba Olowo and Beyonce's self-titled project Beyoncé (album) are notable exampes. In addition, you can identify songs that are singles by checking to see if they have an Apple Music link outside of the album link. You can also check to see if they were serviced to radio stations. Point of correction, Blessed had two singles prior to its release, not one. Looking at the length of Thankful, the number of singles in the infobox is consistent with albums of the same length. Albums with tons of songs will generally have more singles than albums with fewer songs. Hope this helps you out. I struggled with this for a long time myself and decided to just include songs with music videos to the singles count. The only article I've created that probably needs work is Tiwa Savage's R.E.D (Tiwa Savage album). It isn't reasonable that an 18-song album only had two singles. I will definitely make changes to said article.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 17:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was just thinking about R.E.D. I even went over to Tiwa Savage's channel and saw the other videos for "Rewind" and "If I Start to Talk" and was wondering why it wasn't listed. Even on her discography page, which I am also trying to fix, only the lead single, "My Darlin", and "African Waist" were listed as singles from R.E.D. You pointed out that I can check out Apple Music links for them, and while, yes, I have done that before with my article for No Bad Songz, it sometimes doesn't always work. Certain albums that were released at an older date don't always have singles listed on Apple Music, so I often look at reliable sources that talk about them and see if they call their releases "music videos" or "singles". You also mentioned that I could look at if it was serviced to radio stations. I did notice that on the page for Eminado it said it was relesed on October 8th in 2013, but the music video came out on November 4th and I always thought that the single and music video were released simultaneously. Is there a certain source to check if it was released to radio? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:18, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Singles and music videos are not always released simultaneously. Majority of the time, songs are released as singles before their music video comes out. A lot of reliable sources in Nigeria will only announced when a music video comes out. They won't say that the song was released as a single. Even the artists themselves don't say that. I feel like artists and their management team have to specify to media outlets about what songs from their albums they consider to be singles. If they were doing this consistently, there wouldn't be any ambiguity when it comes to how fans and media outlets categorize their songs.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 10:26, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. One example I had seen of a single being released before its music video was Flavour's "Shake" song, released on 20 December 2012 four days before the video's release. Should I just include all the music videos released from Ijele the Traveler? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 20:55, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NotJustOk

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Hey Versace1608, sorry about the frequent messaging. But i have another question I've been pondering about. Lately I've been making a lot of discography articles for artists like Kcee, Phyno, Flavour, and updating the articles for Olamide and Tiwa Savage. When I make those articles I often use Notjustok as a source to find all the songs the artist has made or featured on, by typing in the link "notjustok.com/tag/[artist]" in the Wayback Machine because most of their articles have been archived. Because of that, I tend to not look for other sources. Notjustok ends up being a strong source for the articles, and it's like 90% of the article. It led me to question if it's a reliable source or not because when I checked out the article for it I saw that Notjustok won the awards "Blog of the Year" and "Best Music Blog" at the 2013 Nigeria Entertainment Awards and 2014 Black Weblog Awards respectively. I also saw in most articles that you made you used Notjustok as a source usually. Would you consider it to be reliable? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 05:05, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker), NotJustOk is a reliable source. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:45, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 16:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reading Beans is definitely spot on. NotJustOk is a reliable source to use and I definitely recommend you utilize it to help you expand the discography articles of several Nigerian artists. Going back in time and listing every single released by major acts like Wizkid and Davido is very time consuming. I wish I had the time needed to expand several disocgraphy pages.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 01:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2Baba awards

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Hey, Versace1608, so apparently yesterday was 2Baba's birthday. Because of this I got an idea to create a Wikipedia article for a list of awards and nominations received by 2Baba. The thing is he has a lot of awards that he won and got nominated for. Do you think we can both work on something like that? He's been winning awards for a really long time, since like 2003, so they may not have an available reference on the internet for me to cite. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can assist you in creating the article. Just let me know when you would like to get started.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 15:27, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on it here. I was thinking that I would work on collecting the data of all the awards and everything and you can just do the lead section. I've already put the opening sentence. I'm following the example of this article. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:50, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A better article you could use is the awards and nominations article pertaining to Sarkodie. It is very detailed as well. In addition to focusing on The Headies, Souncity MVP Awards, NEA, City People, you should also check Channel O, MAMA, World Music Awards, Ghana Music Awards, etc. I can help you complete the foreign awards and you can focus on the domestic awards.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 17:19, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the article suggestion. When I was gathering sources for 2Baba's awards, I ran into a problem. Some of his older awards (like the AMEN Awards) don't have reliable sources anymore since those ceremonies no longer exist. I've been using articles from Pulse Nigeria and Nigerian Entertainment Today that list (almost) all of his wins, and finding different sources for the newer awards, but I can't just rely on the same article too much. For the awards I can't find separate sources for, do you think it's acceptable to cite those list articles, or should I just leave them out? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 05:23, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you cite them despite the reliability of the sources. You cannot omit awards simply because they don't have reliable sources to support them. I am going to work on expanding on what you've done so far.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 13:43, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Just to clarify, I've been collecting data in a Google document, and then I'll export that information into the article itself. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. You can work on the domestic awards and I will focus on the foreign ones.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 19:25, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An award that 2Baba won that was missing from that list I was talking about was an AMEN Award for Best Pop Album in 2007. The only source I could find that confirms that is a Linda Ikeji's Blog post. According to this article, Linda Ikeji's Blog is considered an unreliable source. Should I use it or no? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:48, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you should cite it. It is just an award and not an opinion piece.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 11:08, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Versace1608, I've now just finished putting all the awards into the article itself. I want to work on the infobox now. Should I put all of the awards that 2Baba's won into the infobox or just the popular ones like The Headies, BET Awards, Nigeria Entertainment Awards, etc? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 03:36, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about the late response. You should definitely add all of the awards to the infobox. Make sure you add awards won the nomination count. For instance, if 2Baba won one award out of three nominations at the 2010 Channel O Music Awards, the award count would be 1 win and 3 nominations.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 14:19, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. I'm working on it right now. I was trying to add all of the awards in but the table only allows the awards list to go up to 22. The remaining 5 cannot fit into the table. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 02:05, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I never knew the awards infobox had a limit. This is my first time hearing this. Just do what you need to do with the table. You can always add a note to the article's lede, explaining to readers that the award count isn't complete due to the existing limit.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 10:29, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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