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Question from Splitpunched (04:35, 23 July 2025)

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Hello! Apparently you're my mentor, so, nice to meet you!

I'm not sure how to address an issue with content in an article that I would describe as trivial and unnecessary, but other editors insist is necessary. I lack the knowledge of the specific Wikipedia policy that one would use to go "no, this isn't necessary information, this is trivia", and so I cannot actually post an argument against it that doesn't appeal directly to common sense.

Where do I begin with this? --Splitpunched (talk) 04:35, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Splitpunched, hello! Sorry for the late reply. Is this still something you have questions about? Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 19:26, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is, yes, though I don't feel optimistic about being able to do anything. Splitpunched (talk) 23:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This does not make me any more optimistic. Splitpunched (talk) 01:19, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Jetsonesque (22:25, 26 July 2025)

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Hello, Rae! I've never edited an article before. I just did an edit on an article on NM District Attorney Sam Bregman. Earlier entry for Bregman was rejected for relevance, formatting and peacocking. The latest entry attempts to remove problematic text, clean up formatting, and comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures. I want to make sure I'm doing this properly. Also, when I come onto this page, I still see 0 edits to articles so far. Does it take some time for edits show up on this page? The edited page looks correct to me. Thanks for your help with this matter. Best, Jettsonesque --Jetsonesque (talk) 22:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jetsonesque! Your edits are definitely an improvement, though I don't know if Bregman meets the notability guideline — there doesn't seem to be much secondary coverage. Are there other topics you'd want to write about on Wikipedia? Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 19:37, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. One goal with this edit was to remove anything not in keeping with Wikipedia tone, format, etc. Having the focus on notability is definitely helpful.
To that issue, there may be other articles that focus prominently on Bregman, and which may better support notability. Some of those may have been omitted from this version. Adding them could very well help. I'll review and see what might be appropriate to support notability.
Regarding editing other topics, yes, I'd be open to that. I did fill out the area where you choose categories of articles that might be of interest for editing. I chose a number of topics, and have received an invite to edit, which I will address shortly. Jetsonesque (talk) 18:01, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SophiaNasif (12:58, 30 July 2025)

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SophiaNasif's mentor Clovermoss is away.

Hi Vermont! I have been hired as a paid editor for a page, how do I disclose this? --SophiaNasif (talk) 12:58, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello SophiaNasif, thanks for adding the template to your userpage. I've fixed an issue in parsing the template —it looks like the visual editor automatically added tags to render it as text rather than a template when you pasted it in. Which of "ArtsTemps" and "LondonCollegeofCommunication" are the article/employer, or are they both separate employers? You can set the "employer" and "article" fields in the template to reflect this. Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 22:58, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi the employer is London College of Communication but as I am a student that the university hired, it's through their student jobs system, Arts Temps. Do I also need to disclose on the page that they have hired me to research for and edit, and how do I do that? All of the research and writing is my own, independent of the university itself.
Sorry, it is my first time using Wikipedia. SophiaNasif (talk) 23:00, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SophiaNasif: I've edited your user page to format that, is the current line accurate? Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 23:07, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Vermont! Thank you so much, that is correct. Do I also need to disclose it on the page I've been hired to edit? SophiaNasif (talk) 11:25, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SophiaNasif: Your user page notice is sufficient to meet policy, but you could also note in edit summaries that the edit is paid. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 17:13, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-32

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Editors can now enable the User Info card. This feature adds an icon next to usernames on history pages and similar user-contribution log pages. When you tap or click on the icon, it displays data related to that user account such as the number of edits, reverted edits, blocks, and more. It's part of a broader project to make it easier for moderators to evaluate account trustworthiness. The feature can be enabled in your global preferences, and later this week it will be available in local preferences. [1]
  • Everybody is invited to share comments on Collaborative Contributions, a project recently launched by the Connection team. The project aims to create a new way to display the impact of collaborative editing activities (such as edit-a-thons, backlog drives, and WikiProjects) on the wikis. Post your comments on the project talk page. [2]
  • Administrators can now define the default block duration for temporary accounts. To do that, they need to create a page named MediaWiki:Ipb-default-expiry-temporary-account and use a value defined in MediaWiki:Ipboptions. This allows administrators to easily block temporary accounts for 90 days, which is functionally equivalent to an indefinite block. The advantage of this solution is that it does not clutter Special:BlockList. More documentation is available. [3]
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  • Gadgets can now include .vue files. This makes it easier to develop modern user interfaces using Vue.js, in particular using Codex, the official design system of Wikimedia. Codex icons can be loaded through the gadget definition. The documentation has examples. For user scripts that use Vue.js, an API module now exists to load Codex icons. [4][5]
  • Module developers can now use a Lua interface to simplify the preparation of Lua modules for translation on Meta-Wiki. This improvement makes it easier for translators to find and edit module strings without dealing with raw Lua code. It helps prevent mistakes that could break the module during translation. Module developers and translators are invited to watch the demo video, read more about translatable modules to understand how it works, refer to Meta-Wiki's Module:User Wikimedia project for example usage, and share their feedback on how well it addresses the challenges in their workflow. The interface still has some performance issues, so it should not be used in widely used modules yet. [6]
  • Developers of external tools that connect to Wikimedia pages must set a user-agent that complies with the user-agent policy. This policy will start to be more strongly enforced in August because of external crawlers that are overusing Wikimedia's resources. Tools that are hosted on Wikimedia's Toolforge or Cloud VPS will not be affected by this for now, but should still set a user-agent. More technical details are available, and related questions are welcome in that task.
  • Parsoid Read Views is going to be rolling out to some smaller Wikipedias over the next few weeks, following the successful transition of Wikivoyages and Wiktionaries to Parsoid Read Views. For more information, see the Parsoid/Parser Unification project page. [7]
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Question from Amjad Khabaz (14:15, 5 August 2025)

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Hi, I spent long time to write my user page, Unfortunately, it has been deleted without clear reason!!! Can you please return my written information, and let me know what is the problem? --Amjad Khabaz (talk) 14:15, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Amjad Khabaz: User pages on Wikipedia are to provide some brief information about a Wikipedia editor to others, and is not a personal profile; see WP:U5. If you'd like the content back to use on another site, I'd recommend seeing WP:REFUND. Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 06:09, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tuduu-77 (00:43, 7 August 2025)

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Hello this Tuduu. I would like to add a new information to the Wikipedia. How can I make it? --Tuduu-77 (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tuduu-77, what do you want to write about? Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 06:16, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
  • Following a request for comment, there is a new policy outlining the granting of permissions to view the IP addresses of temporary accounts. Temporary account deployment on the English Wikipedia is currently scheduled for September 2025, and editors can request access to the permission ahead of time. Admins are encouraged to keep an eye on the request page; there will likely be a flood of editors requesting the permission when they realize they can no longer see IP addresses.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case Indian military history has been closed.
    • South Asia (WP:CT/SA) is designated a contentious topic. The topic area is specifically defined as All pages related to the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups.
    • The contentious topic designations for Sri Lanka (SL) and India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan (IPA) are folded into this new contentious topic.
    • The community-authorized general sanctions regarding South Asian social groups (GS/CASTE) are rescinded and folded into this new contentious topic.
  • The arbitration case Article titles and capitalisation 2 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case closed on 31 July.
  • The arbitration case Transgender healthcare and people has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 11 August.

Miscellaneous

  • Wikimania 2025 is happening in Nairobi, Kenya, and online from August 6 to August 9. This year marks 20 years of Wikimania. Interested users can join the online event. Registration for the virtual event is free and will remain open throughout Wikimania. You can register here now.
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Question from Jetsonesque (20:17, 7 August 2025)

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Hello Rae! I just did some light edits on my first article. I made some simple edits and added a citation, but now I see a note about <ref> codes with no content in them. For the life of me I can't see the issue in the code. I'd love to know how to spot, fix and avoid the issue going forward. Sorry to create any extra work for other editors. --Jetsonesque (talk) 20:17, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jetsonesque! It looks like your edit added an empty reference tag at the top of the article; maybe you accidentally clicked the ref button in the editor and it added in the empty tag? Someone fixed it in this edit. Not a big deal at all and thanks for your question about it! Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 07:33, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-33

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The WikiEditor toolbar now includes its keyboard shortcuts in the tooltips for its buttons. This will help to improve the discoverability of this feature. [8]
  • The Product and Technology Advisory Council published a set of proposed experiments the Wikimedia Foundation can try to improve communication with community. Feedback on the proposals are welcomed until August 22 on this talk page.
  • The search bar on the Minerva skin (mobile) has been updated to use the same type-ahead search component that is used on the Vector 2022 skin. There are no changes in search functionality but there are minor visual changes. Specifically, the close-search button has been changed from an "X" to a back arrow. This helps to distinguish it from the other "X" button that is used to clear any text. [9]
  • Editors on some wikis will see a new toggle for "Group results by page" on watchlist, related changes, and recent changes pages. This is an A/B experiment that is planned to start on August 11, and will run for 3–6 weeks on the Bengali, Chinese, Czech, French, Greek, Portuguese, and Urdu Wikipedias. The experiment will examine how making this feature more discoverable might affect editors' ability to find the edits they are looking for. [10]
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  • The multiwiki datasets of Unicode data have been moved to Category:Unicode Module Datasets on Wikimedia Commons, to follow the idea of "One common data source, multiple local wikis". Most wikis have been updated to use the Commons version. You can ask questions at the talkpage. [11]
  • Lua code can add warnings when something is wrong, by using the mw.addWarning() function. It is now possible to add more than one warning, instead of new warnings replacing old ones. If you maintain a Lua module that used warnings, you should check it still works as expected. [12]
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Question from Einollahsafouri (06:45, 12 August 2025)

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when can i learn about wikipedia's decisionf or posting this page --Einollahsafouri (talk) 06:45, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Einollahsafouri (12:04, 12 August 2025)

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i can't edit the referene section can you help? --Einollahsafouri (talk) 12:04, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Einollahsafouri: What page are you trying to edit? Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 22:22, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kunjicka (13:29, 13 August 2025)

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Hi Rae, how are you?. I wrote an accurate article on Canada’s Christian Heritage Month that has officially proclaimed by the city of Brampton, Ontario back in October19, 2019. Many other cities also has followed Brampton and proclaimed December as Christian Heritage Month. I like to see this get published. Can you help? --Kunjicka (talk) 13:29, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Paralecky (20:32, 13 August 2025)

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How do I create my personal page and bio on google --Paralecky (talk) 20:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Paralecky: Not on Wikipedia. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 22:23, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Алекс 1977 (09:27, 15 August 2025)

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Хочу узнать о компании TELL. LTD TRADE. Есть ли лицензия с какого года работает. Отзиви и легитивность --Алекс 1977 (talk) 09:27, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kavamixer (13:17, 16 August 2025)

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Thanks Rae:) --Kavamixer (talk) 13:17, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-34

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Updates for editors

  • Later this week, people who are logged-in and have the "Discussion tools" Beta Feature enabled will gain the ability to "Thank" individual comments directly from talk pages, rather than needing to navigate to page history. Learn more about this feature. [13]
  • An A/B test comparing two versions of the desktop donate link launched on testwiki on 12 August and on English Wikipedia 14 August for 0.1% of logged out users on the desktop site. The experiment will run for three weeks, ending on 12 September. [14]
  • An A/A test to measure the baseline for reader retention was launched 12 August using Experimentation Lab. This measures the percentage of users who revisit a wiki after their initial visit over a 14-day period. No visual changes are expected. The experiment will run through 31 August. [15]
  • Five new wikis have been created:
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New pages patrol September 2025 Backlog drive

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September 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol
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Concern regarding Draft:Ella Yurman

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The Bugle: Issue 232, August 2025

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Tech News: 2025-35

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Wishlist item Advanced item Template authors can now use additional CSS properties, since the CSS sanitizer used by TemplateStyles was updated. For example: width: fit-content; ruby-align; relative units such as lh; and custom strings in list-style-type. These improvements are a Community Wishlist wish. [21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30]
  • On large wikis, the default time period to display edits from, within the Special:RecentChanges page, has been changed from 7 days to 1 day. This is part of a performance improvement project. This should have no user-facing impact due to the quantity of edits on these wikis. [31]
  • Administrators can now access the Special:BlockedExternalDomains page from the Special:CommunityConfiguration list page. This makes it easier to find. [32]
  • Wikimedia Commons videos were not shown in the Videos tab in Google Search. The problem was investigated and reported to Google who have now fixed the issue. [33][34]
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wiktionary in Betawi (wikt:bew:) [35]
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Updates for technical contributors

  • Two fields of the recentchanges database table are being removed. rc_new and rc_type are being removed in favor of rc_source. Queries to these older fields will start to fail starting this week and developers should use rc_source instead. These older fields were deprecated over 10 years ago and should not be in use. This is part of work to improve the performance and stability of queries to the recentchanges table. [36]
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In depth

  • The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization Newsletter is now available. This edition includes: support for new languages in MediaWiki and translatewiki; the start of the Language Onboarding and Development project to help support the growth of new and small wikis; updates on research projects; and more.

Meetings and events

  • The next Language Community Meeting is happening soon, August 29th at 15:00 UTC. This week's meeting will cover: the Avro keyboard developers from Wikimedia Bangladesh, who were recently awarded a national award for their contributions to this keyboard; and other topics.

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Question from Wikiediter2029 (17:15, 29 August 2025)

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Would it be appropriate to have a premier league table onto Wikipedia with live points, etc? --Wikiediter2029 (talk) 17:15, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikiediter2029: I'm not very familiar with styling on sports-related pages, can you link to what you're referring to / what you mean by live points? Best, Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 21:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for WikiProject Military history coordinators is now open!

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Nominations for the upcoming Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:03, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-36

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • The Editing team wants to compile a list of templates, jargon terms, and policies used in edit summaries when a copyright violation is removed. This will help them identify the number of edits reverted due to copyright issues. We invite community members from the following Wikis to list these terms in T402601, or to share their list with Trizek_(WMF): Arabic Wikipedia, Czech Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia, Chinese Wikipedia. This project is open until September 9th 2025.

Updates for editors

  • The CampaignEvents extension has been enabled for all Wikisources. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. The extension has three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. To request the extension for your wiki, visit the Deployment information page. [37]
  • The lists in the footer of the editing interface, such as "Templates used on this page," will now be organized into columns when there is enough space. This enhancement minimizes scrolling when editing lengthy articles on Wikipedia. [38]
  • On September 3rd, 2025 we will increase the sampling percentages of our group by toggle experiment of the Special:RecentChanges, Special:Watchlist, and Special:RelatedChanges pages on the Chinese, French, and Portuguese Wikipedias to 100 percent, allowing more editors to be part of this experiment. This adjustment is intended to ensure we have sufficient data to make informed decisions when evaluating the experiment results. [39][40]
  • Upon clicking an empty search bar, logged-out users will see suggestions of articles for further reading on English Wikipedia beginning the week of September 22. The feature will be available on both desktop and mobile. All non-English wikis received this change in June and July. The goal is to make it easier for users to find articles. Learn more.
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In depth

  • Wikifunctions now has a new capability called "lightweight enumeration types", an enumeration type is simply a fixed set of values that's in the type's definition. This capability makes it quick and easy to define such a type, and allows for the reuse of values that are already present in Wikidata. Here is a newsletter to learn more.
  • The latest Readers Newsletter is now available. This edition includes: the formation of two new teams — Reader Growth and Reader Experience; insights into declining pageviews and account creations; highlights from the Wikimania Nairobi panel on improving the reading experience; upcoming experiments to engage new and existing readers; and more.

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Question from Bphv (09:39, 2 September 2025)

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had en god dag --Bphv (talk) 09:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]