User talk:Scott Mayman
Scott Mayman
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- Hi Jay8G - I do not have an external relationship about the person on the page. I am Scott Mayman. I can only guess you are a robot, otherwise you would have investigated to found I am genuine. I do not mean to cause issue. I am employed by the listings on the page. I don't know what else I need to do, to show this is genuine but I'm happy to provide the information, if you can please direct me. I am not familiar with the Wiki requirements but I'm very happy to oblige. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Scott Mayman (talk) 08:25, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well that wasn't very nice. Anyway, you really shouldn't be editing the article about yourself. Did you read the links I sent you? Jay8g [V•T•E] 08:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Jay8g. Please accept my apologies if my comment was offensive. It was not intended. I don't know who to trust anymore with so much sophistication in technology. I got your links, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do next on how to resolve this. I'm not technical. I'm not sophisticated in the tools or requirements. I'm not familiar with a lot of Wiki's rules and I seek forgiveness. I thought I was doing the right thing with an update. I assure you, There's no advertising or purpose of publicizing or promoting. I added my employer, I don't see a conflict of interest and I believe I have avoided spam. I believe I have done my best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. Having said that, please forgive me if I missed something. I really don't know exactly what I'm supposed to be doing... but thank you for your help. Scott Mayman (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well that wasn't very nice. Anyway, you really shouldn't be editing the article about yourself. Did you read the links I sent you? Jay8g [V•T•E] 08:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Article about yourself
[edit]Please familiarize yourself with the policy at WP:COISELF, and the essay at WP:AUTOBIO, about editing an article about yourself. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 02:54, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi and thank you for your email. I'm obviously out of my depth on this and I apologise. The page was originally set up by a Liam Wyatt from Wikimedia Australia. I interviewed him on radio and he was great with such assistance in set up and maintenance of this page. Lately, I've been unable to contact him and I could really use the assistance of someone who knows this stuff. I appreciate you giving me links and stuff, but I just don't understand - I'm not technically minded, which I'm sure you can see, I'm causing issues instead of correcting them when I try to fix something. If you know of someone I can speak with, I'd gladly contact them for help. I'd like to get the page set up correctly but this is beyond me. It would be nice to have this rectified. I know you can only take me on face value, but I assure you, I'm not trying to cause issues. If there's someone I can contact to make these corrections, please let me know... but my brain isn't able to process the requirements of a linked messages. sorry. I hope we can fix this. Scott Mayman (talk) 05:27, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- That would be User:Wittylama, although he
does[typo] doesn't appear to be the person who created the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:09, 26 September 2025 (UTC)- (I knew both of Liam's usernames but thought a ping about an old article might be bothersome.) ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 01:17, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi. I'd like to reach out to Liam, if possible. He was a great interview talent years ago. I slowed down after suffering a stroke a few years ago. I don't comprehend things the way I used to. I'll see if my colleagues at ABC Radio can track him down. It would atleast be good to catch up. cheers, Scott Scott Mayman (talk) 09:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Here's his staff page: m:User:LWyatt (WMF). ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 09:52, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. I appreciate your help. cheers Scott Mayman (talk) 09:59, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Here's his staff page: m:User:LWyatt (WMF). ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 09:52, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- That would be User:Wittylama, although he
- Hello @Scott Mayman. I think I met Liam a few times back in the day. He's moved on to a bigger role with Wikimedia Foundation and is now based in Europe, so he may have more demands on his time now and may not be in an Australian-friendly time zone any more. In any case. nobody owns a Wikipedia article – not you, not Liam, nor any other volunteer editor. These pages might help you: Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and Wikipedia:Contact us/Article subjects, which includes a link to the Edit request wizard that you will need to use if you think anything needs to be changed on the article about you. (And please bear in mind that most of us are volunteers here, so you will have to be patient.) ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 09:01, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - thanks for referring me to links, but I'm not well-minded enough to understand what is needed to be done. I appreciate the volunteers who excel at these things... I've got a lot of respect.. This is just so out of my league and comfort space. I think I may need to speak on the phone with someone... someone like Liam.. who can talk me through each step. thanks again for reaching out. Scott Mayman (talk) 09:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I do want to ask if you have read those last two links in my message? We really do want those to be as plain-English as possible because they are intended for the general public, not Wikipedia insiders. Is there anything that we can do to make those help pages easier to understand? Also, I cannot stress strongly enough that we're all volunteers, there are no paid staff who can take a phone call from you. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 09:30, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi.. and Thank you. I saw the links (many thanks for sending) It's not as plain English as they seem to you. and I respect that you volunteers. I'm not as tech minded as others. I didn't know I made a mistake and I feel like I'm being punished. I have mixed messages now about editing the content that I'm not allowed to edit. Liam was great and he set it up for me years ago. I believe I've done the right thing but it just hasn't been enough. Having said that, I see some of the "Multiple Issues" message at the top of my wiki page got removed. There are now just two remaining and I'm thankful for that. It's just become too hard. I want to do the right thing. Again, many thanks for your reply. I do appreciate it. Scott Mayman (talk) 10:11, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- You may find this page easier to digest Wikipedia:About you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:10, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi.. and Thank you. I saw the links (many thanks for sending) It's not as plain English as they seem to you. and I respect that you volunteers. I'm not as tech minded as others. I didn't know I made a mistake and I feel like I'm being punished. I have mixed messages now about editing the content that I'm not allowed to edit. Liam was great and he set it up for me years ago. I believe I've done the right thing but it just hasn't been enough. Having said that, I see some of the "Multiple Issues" message at the top of my wiki page got removed. There are now just two remaining and I'm thankful for that. It's just become too hard. I want to do the right thing. Again, many thanks for your reply. I do appreciate it. Scott Mayman (talk) 10:11, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I do want to ask if you have read those last two links in my message? We really do want those to be as plain-English as possible because they are intended for the general public, not Wikipedia insiders. Is there anything that we can do to make those help pages easier to understand? Also, I cannot stress strongly enough that we're all volunteers, there are no paid staff who can take a phone call from you. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 09:30, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi - thanks for referring me to links, but I'm not well-minded enough to understand what is needed to be done. I appreciate the volunteers who excel at these things... I've got a lot of respect.. This is just so out of my league and comfort space. I think I may need to speak on the phone with someone... someone like Liam.. who can talk me through each step. thanks again for reaching out. Scott Mayman (talk) 09:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I've been referred to several times here - thanks Andy for the direct ping otherwise I wouldn't have noticed - so I thought I should chime in directly! Yes, I work at the WMF in my day-job, but I'm still here as a volunteer in my hobby :-)
With regards to the article in question though, I've never actually edited it and wasn't involved in its creation. However, the first edit was by user:Lankiveil, Craig Franklin - a dear friend who was on the Wikimedia Australia committee at the same time as me, so that might be who. However, he has since passed away (and the Chapter has its annual award named in his honour). So I looked around and found this mailing list announcement from 2009 where Criag says that he just did his first ever radio interview - with Scott! So, that's the mystery solved.
With regards to this page, could I ask - what seems to be the specific problem?
I see there's a comment by on the biography talkpage by Mmemaigret asking for access to references which are currently either dead or behind paywalls. Scott - could you access those documents and, if they are still available, get them archived here: https://web.archive.org/ That would make it easy for everyone to check what's said in them and ensure they don't disappear in the future?
Sincerely,
Liam - aka Wittylama 10:44, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Liam, thank you for your reply and apologies if I got you mixed up with Craig but I'm glad you got background discovery. Yes, Craig was fantastic. I wish I could do another interview. OK - the problem is, I felt I did a bad thing (edited) when I didn't know the rules and I got a message at the top of my wiki page. I thought I was doing the right thing. I tried to follow wiki links and directions since June but it's like the corrections don't happen, or I'm disallowed and the corrections are removed. A wiki volunteer stepped in to salavage a few things, and I'm so thankful. I don't normally do anything on Wiki and I'm not of the technological mindset, especially after a stroke a few years ago which makes it difficult to comprehend things. I just want to remove the message at the top of the wiki page. I want to do the right thing. I'm happy to supply someone with the info required. If you think it's OK the way it is, that's fine aswell. but I promise I won't do anything else to the wiki page. I'm so sorry. Scott Mayman (talk) 00:43, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
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- Scott Mayman (talk) 00:45, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Scott - the thing that's being asked for in that warning notice is additional citations/references for the facts being stated in the article itself. There are several important claims being made in the article, but without an accessible way for Wikipedia editors (or the general public) to verify those statements to mainstream media publications. It can seem confusing to ask people to "prove" things about their own life, but we take biographies especially seriously to avoid making things up about living people (and also because celebrities and politicians often lie about themselves!!). So... if you could have a look at the page for "citation needed" tags, and also the talkpage where Mmemaigret has listed several things which are currently cited but unaccessible - and then reply to him with links to where these facts can be found easily. THAT would be the best start. Wittylama 09:42, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Wittylama The links on the talk page were listed as external links on 9 September version. But I removed them - so really it's neither here nor there whether he provides them. If he does, then I'll add them to the article. But honestly, he's already been told numerous times that he can't revise his own article and he's already apologised numerous times. If there are facts that you think need citations, suggest just add a "citations needed" or "independent citations needed" template. But honestly, I reviewed the sources as well as doing my own light research and I think the article is fine, notwithstanding the COI. The changes he made were minimal. MmeMaigret (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Scott, don't sweat it—you made a common error, it was pointed out, and you acknowledged that. No one thinks ill of you for it. Any remaining issues are relatively minor, routine to us, and will be dealt with by our usual processes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:51, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Scott - the thing that's being asked for in that warning notice is additional citations/references for the facts being stated in the article itself. There are several important claims being made in the article, but without an accessible way for Wikipedia editors (or the general public) to verify those statements to mainstream media publications. It can seem confusing to ask people to "prove" things about their own life, but we take biographies especially seriously to avoid making things up about living people (and also because celebrities and politicians often lie about themselves!!). So... if you could have a look at the page for "citation needed" tags, and also the talkpage where Mmemaigret has listed several things which are currently cited but unaccessible - and then reply to him with links to where these facts can be found easily. THAT would be the best start. Wittylama 09:42, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- He asked in the Teahouse for help with "his" page, which got alarm bells ringing. (He didn't start the page but did revise it. I take it to correct inaccuracies.) In any event, I reviewed the page and cleaned it up and added the appropriate templates. I moved sources that I couldn't access to the talk page. You were pinged by others, I believe, because there was some suggestion that you helped create the page. From my point of view, there are no remaining issues with the page. MmeMaigret (talk) 10:49, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
"help with "his" page, which got alarm bells ringing"
— That's a large part of the problem: "my page" is not an unreasonable phrase for an article subject to use, especially when they are not familiar with our internal jargon, and is not in itself evidence of malfeasance. We are cautioned to "not bite the newbies", but sadly that often gets forgotten when they are article subjects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:55, 28 September 2025 (UTC)