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Your submission at Articles for creation: Caroline Pettey wiki page (July 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Naraht were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

this doesn't read like an encyclopedia article, the subject doesn't appear to meet notability guidelineso Subnational wins in Beauty pageants don't contribute to notability.

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Naraht (talk) 02:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Caroline Pettey (July 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GraziePrego was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Caroline Pettey and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

GraziePrego (talk) 04:20, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Carolyn Pettey

Sorry, my internet cut out - the part that supports my IRC activity - so I'll just leave a message here.

You could start a discussion at WT:WikiProject Beauty Pageants to see if other editors would agree to change the criteria.

As for the Osseck page, that was started way back in 2009. It has not been held to any modern standard. That's one of the reasons I don't find it fruitful to discuss existing articles. We have a great many substandard articles on Wikipedia and bad articles will supposedly, eventually, eventually, be either improved or deleted. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your answer, that does add some context Mizzou2020 (talk) 05:23, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel it's the COMBINED notoriety she has received that makes this an easy decision.

A state pageant title holder with Top 16 Miss USA, AND a FOX TV reporter for a major city market in the United States (St. Louis).

How many other women have achieved that? You can make an arguement that each of those deserves its own wiki page. Mizzou2020 (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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