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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (August 14)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Vanderwaalforces were:
This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:
Please address these issues. The best way is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:09, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i might need some help or directions pls LorenzoTron (talk) 06:13, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As the note below says, you can ask at the Articles for Creation help desk for guidance on why your article was declined, and what you can do next. The main issue (other than the potentially LLM-generated content) is around notability. If notability can't be established as per the notablility guidelines, then unfortunately, your article is not a good fit for Wikipedia. UmbyUmbreon (talk) 07:51, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, LorenzoTron! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:09, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i might need some help... how can i fix it? LorenzoTron (talk) 06:13, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 2025

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Hello LorenzoTron. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:LorenzoTron. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=LorenzoTron|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:50, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

it is a little hard to understand... i am the founder and a former employee of the company but i will not get paid... LorenzoTron (talk) 01:26, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a founder and owner of the business you clearly have a financial stake in it, which makes you a paid editor even if you're not explicitly paid to edit Wikipedia. Please make he disclosure as instructed above. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:20, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i did do it on my second draft :D i am making sure i will do it again... but the tone seems very neutral to me is it not neutral enough? all the cit and ref are external sources are they good? LorenzoTron (talk) 11:12, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History

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The venue opened in 2016 under owners Lorenzo Tron and Roberto Davoli.[1] In 2018, it was accredited by Coeliac Australia, following inspections of preparation areas, supply chains, and cooking processes to ensure suitability for customers with coeliac disease.[2]

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Shop225 serves wood-fired pizza made from dough fermented for 72 hours before baking. The restaurant offers gluten-free, vegan, vegetarian, and halal options, prepared separately to reduce cross-contamination risks.[3]

Awards and recognition

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In 2025, Shop225 was ranked first in Australia and fifth in the Asia–Pacific region in the 50 Top Pizza guide.[4] In 2024, it received two stars at the Guida Chef di Pizza Stellato awards in Naples, Italy.[5] In 2024, Member of Parliament Peter Khalil recognised the restaurant’s inclusivity during a parliamentary session.[6]

Media coverage

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The restaurant has been profiled in Time Out, The City Lane, Broadsheet, Hidden City Secrets, Concrete Playground, and Urban List Melbourne.[4][2][1][7][3][8]

References

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  1. ^ a b "The City Lane: Shop225". The City Lane. 6 July 2023. Retrieved 14 August 2025.
  2. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference Broadsheet2023 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ a b "Gluten-Free (and Vegan Friendly) Pizzeria". Concrete Playground. 7 January 2019. Retrieved 14 August 2025.
  4. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference TO2025 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  5. ^ "Riconosciuta l'artigianalità de Il Caminetto e Shop225". Il Giornale del Globo. 3 December 2024. Retrieved 14 August 2025.
  6. ^ "Parliamentary Hansard – Peter Khalil MP". Parliament of Australia. 2024. Retrieved 14 August 2025.
  7. ^ "Best Pizza – Hidden City Secrets". Hidden City Secrets. 2020. Retrieved 14 August 2025.
  8. ^ "Urban List Melbourne: Shop225". Urban List Melbourne. 14 August 2025. Retrieved 14 August 2025.

LorenzoTron (talk) 06:12, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: This is not the appropriate usage of the edit request system, and this is not the appropriate paid editing disclosure. Edit requests are for specific changes to articles that already exist but cannot / should not be edited by you because it is protected, or you have a conflict of interest. You should read the Articles for Creation submission declined message that was left in your sandbox for guidance on what to do next with your article.
Additionally, please read the guidance on how to disclose paid contributions. Your paid editing disclosure must go on your user page (not your talk page; create it if you're asked to do so), and can be done by using the {{paid|user=LorenzoTron|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}} template. Again, this is a requirement of the Wikimedia Terms of Use. Do not edit further until this is done. UmbyUmbreon (talk) 07:26, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
sorry... how to i take it off? 106.70.36.133 (talk) 01:23, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:LorenzoTron, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=LorenzoTron|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 11:52, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

added it again... i did it before but it wasnt there anymore... what else I am missing? LorenzoTron (talk) 03:55, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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You still have not adequately responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor. If you make any additional edits without complying, you may be blocked from editing. Theroadislong (talk) 07:00, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i have added this:
LorenzoTron, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by SHOP225 for their contributions to Wikipedia. User User:LorenzoTron discloses a conflict of interest as a co-owner of SHOP225, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation’s Terms of Use.
but i dont think you can see it... at the end... can you see it? what else i need to add? LorenzoTron (talk) 07:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it is like this now...
SHOP225 is an Italian restaurant and pizzeria located in Pascoe Vale South, a suburb of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. The peculiarity is that the menu includes options catering to a range of dietary requirements, including gluten-free, vegan, vegetarian, halal and more, and has received international recognition in pizza industry awards.
History
The venue opened in 2016 when it was purchased by business partners Lorenzo Tron and Roberto Davoli.
From its early years, the restaurant offered both vegan and traditional Italian dishes, in 2018, SHOP225 became the first pizzeria in Australia to be accredited by Coeliac Australia, following inspections of preparation areas, supply chains, and cooking processes.
Menu
The restaurant serves home-made pasta and wood-fired pizza made from dough fermented for 72 hours before baking. Independent publications have noted its range of gluten-free, vegan, vegetarian and halal offerings, prepared in separate spaces to avoid cross-contamination.
Awards and recognition
In 2025, SHOP225 ranked first in Australia and fifth in the Asia–Pacific region in the 50 Top Pizza guide.
In 2024, it received two stars at the Guida Chef di Pizza Stellato awards in Naples, Italy.
In 2024, the Hon. Peter Khalil MP referred to the restaurant’s inclusivity and awards during a parliamentary speech in the Parliament of Australia.
In 2024, food critic Dani Valent reviewed the restaurant for The Age as part of her coverage of Melbourne dining.
In 2019, SBS have included them to Loving Gluten Free Documentary
Media coverage
Coverage of SHOP225 has appeared in multiple independent outlets:
The City Lane profiled the venue and noted its inclusion in Asia–Pacific pizza rankings.
Broadsheet reported on its gluten-free certification and preparation processes.
Hidden City Secrets described it as Australia’s first certified gluten-free pizzeria.
Concrete Playground highlighted its vegan and halal offerings.
Urban List Melbourne featured its Neapolitan-style pizzas, vegan desserts, and award wins.
Sources
External links
Official website
LorenzoTron, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by SHOP225 for their contributions to Wikipedia. User User:LorenzoTron discloses a conflict of interest as a co-owner of SHOP225, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation’s Terms of Use. LorenzoTron (talk) 07:56, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK but it is best to place the disclosure on your user page User:LorenzoTron per the instructions above. Theroadislong (talk) 08:00, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
is the tone ok? is there any other suggestions you might have? i need all the help i can get :D LorenzoTron (talk) 08:03, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i believe i created a page for me and did it... can you pls let me know? LorenzoTron (talk) 08:11, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: User:LorenzoTron/sandbox has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:LorenzoTron/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 07:03, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (August 17)

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Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Qcne was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.
qcne (talk) 08:48, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (August 17)

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Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Theroadislong was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.
Theroadislong (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
can you pls help me to understand? from my research we had enough to be able to publish it...
Below are the independent sources covering SHOP225:
- Time Out Australia (2025) – Ranked Shop225 first in Australia and fifth in Asia–Pacific among pizzerias
- Broadsheet Melbourne – Profiled the pizzeria’s accreditation by Coeliac Australia and its gluten-free innovations Broadsheet.
- Concrete Playground – Featured it as offering some of the city’s best gluten-free and vegan slices and pastas, highlighting its dietary accommodations Concrete Playground.
- The City Lane – Included it in its coverage of Melbourne pizzerias with Asia–Pacific recognition The City Lane.
- Hidden City Secrets – Called it Australia's first certified gluten-free pizzeria Wikipedia+150 Top Pizza.
- Urban List Melbourne, among others, profiled its menu, awards, and innovations.
- Additional recognition sources like SBS, Parliament mention, and Good Food Guide reviews—assuming they come from independent mainstream outlets—would.
Multiple independent sources?
— Time Out, Broadsheet, Concrete Playground, The City Lane, Hidden City Secrets, Urban List, etc.
Significant, in-depth coverage?
— profiles, rankings, features, accreditation stories.
Independent from subject?
— from reputable media.
Beyond passing mention?
— several include dedicated feature content.
I am not understanding... please let me know
SHOP225 was the first pizza shop in Melbourne to introduce vegan, first pizza shop in australia to become accredited for coeliac, next month it will be proclaim top 100 best pizza shop in the world... what is it missing? we have newspaper article in 3 continents, BBC world, newspaper in Australia and Italy
little help? maybe i am not capable of writing in english :( LorenzoTron (talk) 11:36, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ping @Theroadislong qcne (talk) 08:26, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You re-submitted the draft after it was rejected with zero changes/improvement, the draft is just advertising, none of the "awards" are notable, profiles are not reliable independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 09:32, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
is the australian newspaper not a notable and reliable independent sources and the 50top pizza (50 Top Pizza, the first and most influential industry guide), the nomination by an MP in the canberra parliament of australia, BBC world news, than what is a notable source?
I have made changes required, i did add a page for myself and the disclaimer, add some notable sources what else shall i do? LorenzoTron (talk) 01:38, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, there's probably not a whole lot you can do right now. The prevailing consensus is that the article is still promotional in nature and the subject is not sufficiently notable for inclusion on Wikipedia, and with the draft rejected, it will need a significant rewrite and/or more significant independent coverage than awards and profiles in provided sources before this could be reconsidered. I know it's tough to accept, but there is only a very small percentage of businesses who would be notable enough for their own article on Wikipedia. As an extremely general rule, if a business is notable enough by Wikipedia standards, someone else would have already written an article about it. UmbyUmbreon (talk) 06:14, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So it is not the tone or the disclaimer… I will wait for some customers to write about us than…
thank you for your help LorenzoTron (talk) 07:39, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]