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For Rejecting Season 3 of The Masked Singer and so starting discussion of whether to accept it that should have started earlier if the proponents had been paying attention. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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From Wiki tamil 100 10:59, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
The Copyeditor's Barnstar
i have wrote extra things about walajabad taluk . tamil 11:32, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
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PROMOTION
Hello, you have reviewed an wikipedia article and you have specify it as promotion. This is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laerta

I really do not understand as you will find the same pages on wikipedia that are online, where is the difference. The source is independent, we have added the newspaper links that have talked for this person, where is the problem. You can review these sources and you can see how independent are these newspaper, is the problem that they are albanian newspaper? Why all the foreign news are independent as we have seen to the other people on wikipedia, this is really a racism. VioMuc1 (talk) 09:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]



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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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The Signpost: 30 September 2022

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

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Hello LJF2019,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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The Signpost: 1 January 2023

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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Hello LJF2019,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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The Signpost: 4 February 2023

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Last issue's vow for "something to show for these efforts" revisited.
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Section 230 before the Supreme Court in two cases, with broad implications for the web.
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Isamaa party sponsor Parvel Pruunsild files claim in Tartu County Court against WMEE head Ivo Kruusamägi and Reform Party politicians.
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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive

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The Signpost: 26 April 2023

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The Signpost: 8 May 2023

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Feedback on - Articles for creation: History of Hartlepool United F.C.

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I was wondering if you could give me more feedback on the draft that failed review today: Draft:History of Hartlepool United F.C.. Your reason was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Would you please give me some additional feedback on the page? Michaeldble (talk) 13:28, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Michael, I wrote on the article that you should consider merging the content you created into the existing article at Hartlepool United F.C.. LJF2019 talk 22:27, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 22 May 2023

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Opposing scholars on ArbCom case.
Includes stronger sourcing restriction, and a nod to the UCoC.
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Bird is the word for featured pictures.
Celebs and Bollywood film dominated reader interest, as usual, but with a new persistent presence on the lists of a certain AI.
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Pennsylvania Manufacturers Association

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Thank you for acting so quickly on approving this article. As I mentioned to QuantumRealm, if something is notable, it's notable. How can I (or other editors) go about doing a better job on this? I have added 28 citations, all (I think) secondary and not connected with the subject. Should I search for more? If one citation is good, are two better? Any help you can give me would be most appreciated.

Thanks. Hamish barebones (talk) 18:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 5 June 2023

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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Hello LJF2019,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

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Reminders

The Signpost: 19 June 2023

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Problems with emergency emails sent to WMF.
... and an AI writer explains why he just bought a paper encyc.
Poetry still present.
And other new research findings.
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New pages patrol needs your help!

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New pages awaiting review as of June 30th, 2023.

Hello LJF2019,

The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.

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The Signpost: 3 July 2023

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Are you now, or have you ever been, a Wikipedia editor?
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The Signpost: 17 July 2023

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Philadelphians and Tanzanians say goodbye.
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In which choices have been made™.
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Hi, I had previously updated the Imprisonment section of Jerry Sandusky, the prev version said he's attempting to obtain a new trial, I updated this w/o references & you deleted it as unsourced. I attempted to put in the ref's, one is a copy of the motion for new trial which I uploaded to web archive. I know it is the real motion as I've discussed it by email with the principals, but I'd rather have a link to it on court pages. The second ref is now to one of the articles describing the hearing where the motion was denied.

I do know the ref to the actual file is not great as one has no way to verify that the document is a legitimate copy of the motion entered into trial. Please consider working with me or other editors on this rather than a simple delete. Createangelos (talk) 00:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 1 August 2023

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And French gov't proposes legislation to slam Wikipedia, others.
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Three editors have departed.
You don't really want to do this stuff by yourself, do you?
A serious visual investigation.
A compilation of over 3M citations.
Possible solutions after being re-harassed.
Due to unfortunate events, this issue is published as is, in its unfinished state.
Oppenheimer, Barbie, and a couple other scandals.
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The Signpost: 15 August 2023

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Jimbo promises more transparency, Wikimania in Singapore, move away from Tides still planned, and Wikifunctions rolls out.
Harsh words from problematic fave Glenn Greenwald.
Rigorous Review of Content for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Wikipedia.
Damn kids need to get off our lawn and onto RfA.
Because one gets some secondary skills when one has 645 featured pictures.
The innards of the Signpost received a major overhaul in March/April 2019. Here's how we reduced behind-the-scenes busywork and improved writers resources.
For whom does the Creative Commons enforcement clause toll?
An announcement of 335,000 new images on Wikimedia Commons.
Some improvement on last week.
Case request cited misuse of tools by administrator who last used tools in 1661.
Barbenheimer, Pee-Wee Herman and the Women's World Cup.
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The Signpost: 31 August 2023

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News for the editoriat. Stuff that matters.
Wikipedia really comes into its own, editorially and artistically.
"Poli", which means "many", and "tics", which means "under-the-table Wikipedia article whitewashing campaigns".
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Hello, LJF2019

I wrote this article in 2022 and submitted it for review, which took about four months. Editor QuantumRealm reviewed and approved the article saying, "Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions. The article has been assessed as C-Class…. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top 19% of accepted submissions — kudos to you!" Then 45 minutes later, he “disapproved” the article and moved it back to “Draft” status, saying . “I apologize for any misunderstanding that may have occurred. After further consideration, I decided to draftify the article because it requires some additional improvements and sources to meet Wikipedia's content guidelines and notability criteria.”

I asked QuantumRealm for specifics; he responded by telling me to check “…notability guidelines…reliable sources and …verifiability." I then asked him four specific questions relative to the broad guidelines; he never responded.

Returning to work on the article, I added more content and more citations, then resubmitted the article for approval which you, LJF2019, provided on 20 May, leaving the “notability” tag in place. Working more on the article, I posted it to the TeaHouse in July, asking for help in improving the piece. One editor responded, posting broad guidelines – “Article topics must receive significant coverage that is independent of the subject and comes from reliable, secondary sources.” Shortly thereafter, the request was archived. I continued to add content and citations which came from independent, reliable, secondary sources.

I would like to move on to improving other articles and, perhaps, creating more on my own. But, before I do that, I would like to get the “notability” template removed. PMA, the organization charged with overseeing and promoting manufacturing in the country’s fifth-largest manufacturing state for 114 years is notable. I don't want revert anything by myself, (I firmly believe in Wikipedia consensus) so I’m reaching out to you for guidance. How should I proceed? Thanks for your help. Hamish barebones (talk) 18:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hamish barebones,
Thank you for reaching out and for your diligence in creating and improving the article on the Pennsylvania Manufacturers' Association. Your commitment to the Wikipedia community is evident and deeply appreciated.
I understand your frustration regarding the notability concerns. Wikipedia's notability guidelines, especially for organizations and companies, can be challenging to navigate, but they are essential to ensure the quality and reliability of the content on the platform.
Given the detailed context you've provided:
I recommend gathering a comprehensive list of the independent, reliable, secondary sources you've added to the article since it was last reviewed. This list can be used to make a clear case for the article's notability, ensuring it stands on solid ground against Wikipedia's guidelines.
Engage with other experienced Wikipedia editors, preferably those with expertise in assessing notability for organizations. You can reach out in relevant WikiProjects, or on the Talk page of the article, presenting your case and the list of sources.
If, after a discussion, there is consensus among editors that the notability criteria are met, then the notability template can be safely removed. It's always a good practice to ensure multiple eyes review the changes for consensus, as you rightly pointed out.
If the notability concerns persist, consider starting an "Articles for Deletion" (AfD) discussion. This process will allow a wider community of editors to weigh in on the article's notability, and potentially reach a clear consensus on its inclusion.
I appreciate your dedication to improving Wikipedia, and I'm here to support you every step of the way. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have further questions or need additional guidance.
Warm regards,
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User:LJF2019 Began implementing the suggestions you made. Thanks! Hamish barebones (talk) 19:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your help in my attempts to demonstrate the notability of the Pennsylvania Manufacturers’ Association. On your recommendations, I completed the following:

A. I gathered and posted on PMA’s talk page a comprehensive list of the independent, reliable, secondary sources (32 of them) and asked other editors if they could help by adding more or objecting to those listed. No one responded. This list does make a clear case for the organization’s notability, as all citations are verifiable, independent and reliable.

B. I posted a request for help on the Teahouse. One editor responded with broad guidelines – “Article topics must receive significant coverage that is independent of the subject and comes from reliable, secondary sources.” Then the request was archived.

C. I posted a “Help me” template on my talk page, requesting help from other editors in demonstrating or improving the notability requirements request. I received a response from one editor who told me my use of the “Help me” template was incorrect, and that the “Notability” tag itself was a request for help, not a “black mark.” No other editors responded.

D. It appears, from the responses I’ve received, that PMA may be notable, but it is not a high interest topic to other editors. Not one editor has offered any specific reasons why PMA should be considered either notable or, in this case, not notable.

At this point I would like to suggest that I have done about as much as an editor can do to demonstrate notability. I further suggest that either you or I post a paragraph on the PMA talk page that provides a summary of points A-D above and recommend building consensus for removing the tag. We could set a deadline of several weeks or so to see whether any editors had any particular hypotheses one way or another. Then, unless there were specific objections, remove the tag. Your thoughts? Hamish barebones (talk) 17:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hamish barebones,
Thank you for your diligent follow-up and the considerable efforts you've made in addressing the notability concerns for the Pennsylvania Manufacturers' Association (PMA) article. Your approach and the steps you've taken clearly demonstrate a commitment to improving Wikipedia and adhering to its content guidelines.
Given the actions you've detailed:
A. The compilation and posting of a comprehensive list of 32 independent, reliable, secondary sources is commendable. It's unfortunate that there hasn't been more engagement from other editors, but the lack of response does not diminish the significance of your efforts or the potential notability of PMA.
B. Your initiative to seek assistance through the Teahouse and the use of the "Help me" template, even if it did not yield the desired feedback, shows a proactive approach to seeking community input and improvement for the article.
C. It's insightful to understand that the "Notability" tag is not a detriment but rather a call to action for further improvement and verification of notability, as pointed out by the editor who responded to your "Help me" request.
D. The perception that PMA may not be a high-interest topic to other editors, while challenging, does not inherently affect the notability of the subject as per Wikipedia's guidelines.
Your suggestion to post a summary of points A-D on the PMA talk page and to build a consensus for removing the notability tag is a sound strategy. It aligns with Wikipedia's collaborative and consensus-driven nature. Setting a deadline for feedback allows for a reasonable time frame for editors to present any objections or additional insights.
Here's my view:
Posting on the PMA Talk Page: I agree with your plan to summarize the efforts and sources that substantiate the PMA's notability on its talk page. This summary will serve as a clear, transparent record of the attempts made to address notability concerns.
Building Consensus: Proposing a deadline for feedback is a pragmatic approach to moving forward. I would recommend allowing a period of 3 to 4 weeks, which gives ample time for any interested editors to contribute their views or additional sources.
Next Steps Post-Deadline: If there are no substantial objections or additional concerns raised by the deadline, we can proceed with a consensus to remove the notability tag. It's essential, however, to document this process on the talk page clearly, indicating that an open invitation for discussion was provided and that the consensus was reached based on the lack of opposing views.
Article for Deletion (AfD) as a Last Resort: If there's still uncertainty about the notability or if there are unforeseen objections, an AfD discussion might be necessary. This step would further solidify the community's stance on the article's notability.
I appreciate your dedication to Wikipedia and your willingness to engage with the community's processes to ensure the quality and reliability of its content. I'm here to support your efforts and to assist in facilitating this next step. Please let me know how you wish to proceed, and if you'd like me to initiate the post on the talk page or if you prefer to do so. LJF2019 talk 07:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all your help. I thought it might be better if you were to initiate a post on the talk page; you certainly know your way around Wikipedia better than I do.
I did take a shot at content for the post. Here it is. Please revise it to your heart's content; my prose is far from deathless. I thought it might be easier for you to have something to start with.
For PMA Talk page:
I have been working with User:Hamish barebones to improve the article Pennsylvania Manufacturers’ Association. He had requested my help in removing the “Notability” template from the article.
To date, here's what’s been done:
1. Citations - Total number of Citations – 32, each an independent, recognized media or publishing source.
Sources –
Sources from the subject of the article – None
University/higher education publishing
University of Pennsylvania Press – 5 citations
Pennsylvania State University Press – 1 citation
Commercial Book Publishers
Dorrance Publishing, Pittsburgh – 2 citations
Vanguard Press, New York City – 1 citation
MacMillan and Co., New York City – 1 citation
Newspaper, Magazine Publishers
New York Times, New York City – 6 citations
Bloomberg, New York City 1 citation
PennLive, Mechanicsburg, PA – 3 citations
Insurance Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, - 2 citations
Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Pittsburgh – 1 citation
City & State PA, Philadelphia – 1 citation
Inside Sources DV Journal, Washington DC – 1 citation
Pennsylvania Business Report, Washington DC – 1 citation
Pittsburgh Business Times, Pittsburgh, 1 citation
TribLive, Taretum, PA 1 citation
NorthcentralPA.com. Williamsport, PA – 1 citation
Philadelphia Magazine, Philadelphia – 1 citation
Trade Journals
Reliable Plant, Tulsa, OK 1 citation
Energy News Network, St. Paul, MN 1 citation
This list was posted on the talk page of the article; no editors commented or objected to any of them.
2. Teahouse
An explanation of the issue and request for help was posted on the Teahouse. One editor responded with broad guidelines on notability. The request was then archived.
3. User:Hamish barebones posted a “Help me” request on his talk page. One editor responded with information that the “Help me” request was used incorrectly. This editor also noted that the “notability” template was also a request for help, not a negative.
4. User:Hamish barebones continued to update with article and add new citations on his updates.
A conclusion from responses to this activity is that, although the PMA may not be of high interest to other editors, this does not affect the notability.
Quite a bit has been accomplished on this article, so I would like to propose that the “notability” template be removed. In the Wikipedia spirit of cooperation and consensus, could editors read the article, check the citations, and let us know whether they concur with this conclusion?
I suggest that we set a deadline of 15 March 2024 and make our decision then. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Hope this helps. Hamish barebones (talk) 19:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:LJF2019 I posted a request to you (above) about ten days ago and you did not respond. I hope I made some mistake in the post or that you're relaxing on a warm beach someplace. But I'm trying again and hope I'm not a pest. We'll have to push the suggested deadline for response back a bit, but that's easy. Thanking you in advance.Hamish barebones (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:LJF2019 I hope all is well with you. Since I have not received a response to my request above, I will post it on the PMA talk page. And again, hope you are on a warm beach or in an interesting city. Thanks for all your help in this; I'll keep you up to date on how things go. Hamish barebones (talk) 19:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for uploading File:Tony Soprano 2.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of non-free use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of non-free use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:

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Same thing with:
hinnk (talk) 05:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi hinnk,
I’ve noticed that you’re targeting images I uploaded and pushing for them to be replaced with pictures that you personally uploaded. This goes beyond a simple concern for adhering to Wikipedia’s non-free content policy. It seems more like an attempt to assert control over these pages, which raises questions of bias and conflict of interest.
The images I’ve uploaded serve an important function for their respective character articles. The characters of The Sopranos are defined by their specific portrayal in the show, and generic, freely-licensed images cannot capture the essence of the actors’ performances or the visual style that made these characters iconic. The non-free content criterion specifically allows for images like these when there are no suitable free alternatives, which is exactly the case here.
Moreover, the way you’ve edited the image pages, adding infoboxes recommending replacements with your own uploads, clearly indicates that you’re not acting impartially. This behavior is inappropriate and could be seen as a misuse of your editorial privileges.
I’ll be contesting these proposed deletions and bringing this matter to the attention of administrators. If this continues, I’ll be raising the issue of your conflict of interest as well.
I’m more than willing to discuss this further if you have genuine concerns, but if your intention is to replace valid non-free content with your own contributions, then I’ll take the necessary steps to prevent that.
Best, LJF2019 talk 05:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The images I uploaded are free alternatives made available by HBO under a CC-BY-3.0 license. If you think they aren't suitable replacements, you're welcome to mark the versions you uploaded as {{Di-replaceable non-free use disputed}}. And obviously if you think there was something untoward with my replacing the images, you're welcome to raise the matter wherever you think is appropriate. hinnk (talk) 05:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your claim that the images you've uploaded are suitable replacements simply because they are available under a CC-BY-3.0 license from HBO misses the fundamental issue. The images I provided are critical for accurately representing the characters as they appear in The Sopranos. They capture specific moments and nuances of the characters that generic promotional images cannot replicate.
The images you've uploaded lack the contextual depth necessary for a comprehensive understanding of the characters. Promotional materials often fail to convey the intricate expressions, settings, and interactions that are essential for illustrating the characters' development and significance within the series. Replacing carefully selected screenshots with these generic images diminishes the quality and informational value of the articles.
Furthermore, your pattern of targeting multiple images that I have uploaded and substituting them with your own raises serious concerns about your intentions. This behavior suggests a conflict of interest and appears to prioritize your contributions over the integrity of the encyclopedia. Such actions are contrary to Wikipedia's principles of neutrality and collaborative editing.
The non-free content policy permits the use of copyrighted images when no free alternative can serve the same encyclopedic purpose. In these cases, the specific screenshots are irreplaceable for illustrating the characters as they are known to viewers. Your insistence on replacing them without considering their unique value undermines the articles' accuracy and completeness.
If you genuinely believe that the images you've provided are more appropriate, it would have been constructive to initiate a discussion on the relevant talk pages before unilaterally making replacements. Your dismissive suggestion that I can dispute your actions after the fact does not align with Wikipedia's collaborative spirit. LJF2019 talk 05:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be direct. I disagree with several points you've made, I think the case for "captur[ing] specific moments and nuances of the characters" is tenuous, and because my browser's AI content detection plugin is going wild right now, I'm not willing to discuss this further on your talk page.
Thank you for laying out your justifications on the files' respective talk pages. I'm sure that'll help the reviewing admin make a decision about what the best next steps are. hinnk (talk) 06:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's amusing that you dismiss my arguments as "tenuous" without offering any substantial rebuttal, and then cite your browser's "AI content detection plugin" as a reason to avoid further discussion. If a plugin is preventing you from engaging in a meaningful conversation, perhaps it's not me who should be reconsidering their approach.
Whether or not you believe my points were crafted with the assistance of AI doesn't diminish their validity.
Deflecting the issue by pointing to an "AI alert" seems like a convenient way to sidestep the actual discussion about the suitability of the images.
The core matter remains: the images I've uploaded are crucial for accurately representing the characters in The Sopranos. They capture specific nuances and contexts that generic, freely licensed images do not. Replacing them without adequately addressing these points does a disservice to the encyclopedia.
Since you're unwilling to engage further, I'll leave it to the reviewing administrators to assess the justifications I've laid out on the files' talk pages. I trust they will consider the merits based on policy and the best interests of Wikipedia. LJF2019 talk 06:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files listed for discussion

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Request on 12:42:47, 11 October 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Kalsingh2023

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Hi, unfortunately my submission was rejected, citing that the submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.

I believe that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article, going be this specific criteria mentions for Creative professionals - "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series); " The subject has created and co-created multiple such works - and all works have multiple articles and reviews. Please let me know if I am missing something here. Best regards,

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