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Ham, imo we should NOT be doing this! MOS:ART specifically advises against it, as the RC regularly moves stuff around. For example Charles I in 3 positions is currently in Edinburgh, though I admit most of the category is less likely to move. I know you were just tidying the parents. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: Sorry, I should have known better! I've toyed with the idea of having a Category:Paintings in Buckingham Palace and a Category:Paintings in Hampton Court Palace as a way of tidying up Category:Paintings in London and Category:Paintings in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom. Perhaps I should hold fire?
The triple portrait's in Edinburgh for an exhibition, so I would never have moved that one (or, rather, added Category:Paintings in Edinburgh to it), but on the Royal Collection's page there's no way of seeing its usual home, if it has one. I see that at Charles I in Three Positions we say "The painting currently hangs in the King's Drawing room at Windsor Castle" with a ref from 2021 (the perils of "currently"...). I'll remove that but keep the 2021 ref for the location field in the infobox, for now at least. Hope all's well with you. Ham II (talk) 07:39, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks, though I'm a good deal less on wiki these days.... Actually, most of the Windsor ones are either "fixtures" or less likely to be moved (Waterloo Hall etc), but they do still seem to move them around, esp between Buck House & Hampton Court. Also Holyrood seems to get more and better stuff these days... Perhaps we could rename, and restrict the Windsor one, & leave the others. Hope you're well, Johnbod (talk) 07:05, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Leonardo list

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Hey! Hope you're well, its been a second. The google sheet of Leonardo drawings is finished. I had another crack at it earlier this year—can't remember if I finished it (maybe you did?), but it is indeed complete. I also have a list of concerns (inconsistencies and such in Zöllner) that I can put somewhere, maybe article talk. Are we set to covert it to tabular format? Aza24 (talk) 22:20, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ope, I'm now seeing your holiday note on your user page (enjoy!)—please no rush with this. Aza24 (talk) 16:01, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Aza24, always great to hear from you! I think I got to the end of the sheet around December or January, but one thing I got stuck on was whether to use the old "RL" accession numbers for the Royal Collection, which are what Zöllner uses, or the current "RCIN" ones (which, for Leonardo's drawings, also have a "9" before the old number, so that RL 12542 becomes RCIN 912542). So, after initially transcribing 90-odd Royal Collection accession numbers as they appear in Zöllner, I left 261 unfinished "RCIN 9_ ones; they're the ones now in blue.
I've now decided to go with the current Royal Collection accession numbers, and have done a Find and Replace for all the "RL" ones. I also changed every "r" and "v" in a Royal Collection accession number to "recto" and "verso" spelled out in full. That still leaves the remaining RCIN ones to be finished.
Are you happy to help with filling these last ones in? If so, shall we go about this the way we did before – one of us going from the top down and the other from the bottom up? Then we should be ready to convert these into Wikidata items. Here are the existing Wikidata items, by the way. Thanks for all your work on this. Ham II (talk) 12:17, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aza24: Just letting you know that I've now got the "RCIN 9_s down to under 100, so this is progressing! Ham II (talk) 10:04, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I'm so sorry, I've been completely swamped IRL, I'll put this on my list for later this week though. Aza24 (talk) 22:20, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Aza24: No need – I finished this today! It probably won't be till next weekend that I get these onto Wikidata, though. Ham II (talk) 22:36, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Have either of you come across any more hints of the erotic drawings that Brian Sewell has described? [1] No Swan So Fine (talk) 12:31, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@No Swan So Fine Interesting. I have not (and I guess I missed that footnote in Nicholl), although there are quite a few detailed drawings of genitalia in his notebooks (for instance), but none that seem easily categorizable as erotic. Perhaps you've seen that Hokusai has quite a bit of erotic art?—well preserved in that case. Aza24 (talk) 22:29, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you feel that the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club is a public place as far as art is concerned? It is an exclusive private members club and the grounds are inaccessible outside of the championships. I've just created Statue of Fred Perry as well as the Five Lady Busts, and there is a water feature that would qualify. No Swan So Fine (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@No Swan So Fine: I think the question would have to be whether the art is visible from the public roadway. I can just about make out Fred Perry's statue on Google Street View; the blown-up photo behind it was changed sometime between 2022 and 2024 to the one that's in Art UK's images, making the dark sculpture less visible in Google's photo, but it is there. The busts are also outside Centre Court, but where? A new section at Centre Court might be the best way to cover these sculptures. I can't see the fountain from Google Street View. Ham II (talk) 07:11, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a good ref for Family from another place? I'm just trying to create the Wikidata item. I can't find it on the Bible of ArtUK. Worthington's website (possibly in error) describes the piece as Experiments in Colour 4. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:04, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They make a big play about how accessible to the community they are, and there are tours, I think taking people into the main courts, a museum, of course a shop, & so on, all year round. Johnbod (talk) 03:16, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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