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Is Lists of Olympic competitors really a list of lists?

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Hi, thank you for adding {{list of lists}} to List of Olympic competitors. This got me to thinking, is it really a list of lists, or is it just one multi-part list?

I'm leaning list-of-lists (agreeing with you) right now, so I added it to List of lists of lists#Sports. The one thing is I think that if the main page is pluralized that means all the sub-pages should be plural as well to match. Maybe a compromise could be to leave {{list of lists}} template / category, but move the page back to singular so all of them match? Curious for your thoughts. --Habst (talk) 00:46, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article itself contains links to lots of lists, so it seems OK to think of it as a list of lists. Since the article contains multiple lists, the article name should be Lists .... Each individual list "under" that is a single list, so should really remain as List ...GhostInTheMachine talk to me 08:29, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #219 is out: Accessing qualifiers in Wikidata statements

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There is a new update for Wikifunctions and Abstract Wikipedia. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we introduce the possibility of calling also qualifiers from Wikidata, we update you on the recent deployments of Wikifunctions and on the Wikifunctions presentations at Wikimedia events, we give you the recent updates on Types, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Tech News: 2025-40

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The Oldest View - Categories

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Hi. I noticed that you've been assisting in placing categories for The Oldest View. Do you want me to follow the same structure as Parsons' Backrooms series or just leave it as it is?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backrooms_(web_series)#External_links Chadalvarez2021 (talk) 03:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't over-think it. The categories are rather subjective. Is it SciFi or horror or both or something else? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 07:25, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #220 is out: Rich text now available in embedded function calls on 148 Wiktionaries and Incubator

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we update you on the latest functions and types you can create, we announce that functions are now available to call on 152 projects, we talk about our presentations at Wikimedia meetings, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on October 6, at 17:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

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Tech News: 2025-41

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2025

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #221 is out: Decision on location for abstract content and Quarterly Planning for October–December

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we introduce our naming contest for Abstract Wikipedia, we discuss our plans and work for the upcoming quarter (October-December 2025), we report on the next events we'll be part of, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Precious anniversary

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Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't move articles in AfD

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Hi, you just moved Sean Taylor (Singer-Songwriter) to Sean Taylor (singer-songwriter) without a redirect. This creates an issue for the current AfD and makes the process a little more annoying. Could you please fix up the AfD? Thanks. jolielover♥talk 16:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Not sure how to fix the AfD, do I need to create a redirect? I added a comment — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 16:59, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't know either lol, if I was in your position, I'd move the AfD itself... but something tells me that's not a smart move. Maybe ask an admin? jolielover♥talk 17:11, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(forgot to mention, it's discouraged in WP:AFDEQ) jolielover♥talk 17:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but it was all in the timing — the version on my screen that I moved was, at that moment, not yet AfDed — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 17:34, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could move the AfD, but I also suspect that would just make things worse. As things stand, the article links to the AfD and the AfD now has one keep vote, so the issue may just go away. I will fire a flare and see if an admin needs to alter things — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 17:32, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I moved the article as it was being proposed for deletion. Does the AfD need to be unmangled in some way? Or can any unmangling be left until the close? Or is it OK enough and can be left as is? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 17:32, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think by far the best solution to this is to return the article to its original title, and move it to the better title if the discussion closes as "keep", so I've reverted the move. In the past I've seen a number of kinds of confusion caused by page moves during deletion discussions, so I think it best to avoid them unless the title is really grossly unacceptable. JBW (talk) 14:29, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the unmangling. We can worry about a decent title should the article end up being kept — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 15:02, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-42

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #222 is out: Kicking Off the Naming Contest for Abstract Wikipedia; Visualizing functions

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we kickstart our naming contest for Abstract Wikipedia, we present a beautiful representation of functions by a community member, we report on the next events we'll be part of, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 17:04, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding further detail to the Domtar page

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Hi GhostInTheMachine, I’m from Kekst CNC, a global communications agency that works with Domtar to manage its communications.

We're engaging as a member of the Wikipedia community having signed the official agency/Wikipedia agreement set out here Wikipedia:Statement_on_Wikipedia_from_participating_communications_firms. This means we follow guidelines, most importantly understanding we have COI, meaning we let members of the Wikipedia community decide (or not decide) to make changes for us.

We would like to make some factual additions to the Domtar page to improve its content further. Please find these below. In summary, the requests we have are to: 1. Update to include the full picture of products and services that Domtar delivers 2. Add a section that includes recent coverage of sustainability initiatives Domtar participates in 3. Add more factual information about the acquisition by Paper Excellence 4. Add more factual information about Domtar’s other locations

We kindly ask that you review the copy shared below, and if you are happy with them, add them to the page? Thanks!

...//

Overview

While Domtar operated independently for several decades and was listed on the Toronto and New York stock exchanges, the company was acquired by Paper Excellence Group in November 2021 and operated as a subsidiary until 2024 when Paper Excellence merged its companies under the Domtar name.[1]

Specifically, Domtar designs, manufactures, markets and distributes a wide range of forest products used everyday around the world. Their product offerings include: 1. Business, commercial printing, and publication papers with recognized brands such as Cougar®, Lynx® , Husky®, and Domtar EarthChoice® Office Paper, part of a family of environmentally and socially responsible uncoated freesheet papers[2] 2. Technical and specialty uncoated papers such as security papers and food packaging [3] 3. 100 percent recycled containerboard used to manufacture corrugated packaging[4]

Domtar owns and operates Ariva, formerly known as Domtar Distribution Group, an extensive network of paper distribution facilities.[5]

Sustainability initiatives

In April 2025, Domtar was recognized by Corporate Knights as one of the 25 most sustainable private companies in the world.[6]

On May 6, 2025, Domtar announced a new Sustainability Strategy outlining performance metrics and benchmarks through 2030, focusing on its woodlands and manufacturing operations in Canada and the United States.[7] The strategy aligns with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and is structured around three core pillars, Environmental Stewardship, Our People and Communities, and Responsible Business, with 12 strategic objectives and associated performance targets for 2026 and 2030.[8]

In August 2025, Domtar was named a Sustainable Development Goal Leader, and a documentary film was produced in recognition of their sustainability efforts and strategy.[9]

The company released its first post-integration sustainability report, representing all business units, in October 2025.[10]

Acquisition by Paper Excellence

On May 11, 2021, privately held forest products company Paper Excellence announced that it was acquiring Domtar Corp. for US$2.8-billion.

Two years later, Paper Excellence Group acquired Resolute Forest Products, and in October 2024, Paper Excellence Group rebranded under the Domtar name, integrating Domtar Corporation, Resolute Forest Products, and Paper Excellence. Sister company Fibre Excellence, based in France, continues to operate separately.[11]

Other locations

As of 2019, amongst the COVID-19 outbreak, Domtar announced a temporary reduction at its paper-making capacity at its Kingsport Mill, Tennessee due to decreased demand during the pandemic. The Kingsport Mill was then converted to the company's first 100 percent recycled containerboard manufacturing facility,[12] which opened in May 2023.[13] Domtar is the second-largest recycler in the state of Tennessee.[14]

Permanent paper machine closures were completed at the Ashdown, Arkansas pulp and paper mill, and the Port Huron, Michigan paper mill. The company has indefinitely idled its Grenada newsprint mill as of September 2025.[15] AmeliaP KCNC (talk) 17:03, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.recyclingtoday.com/news/paper-excellence-group-rebrands-as-domtar-resolute-forest-products/
  2. ^ https://wedc.org/success-in-wisconsin/success-stories/employee-pride-product-excellence-drive-papers-success/
  3. ^ https://www.kingsresearch.com/blog/ultimate-guide-top-10-specialty-paper-companies
  4. ^ https://www.pulpapernews.com/20240906/15995/domtar-kingsport-mill-named-2024-business-recycler-year
  5. ^ http://www.ariva.ca/en/about.htm
  6. ^ https://www.corporateknights.com/rankings/other-rankings-reports/2025-private-25/the-25-most-sustainable-private-companies-in-the-world/
  7. ^ https://www.pulpapernews.com/20250827/16940/domtar-outlines-2030-sustainability-strategy
  8. ^ https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/domtar-releases-sustainability-strategy-plan
  9. ^ https://tissueonlinenorthamerica.com/jackson-wijayas-domtar-featured-in-documentary-showcasing-2030-sustainability-vision/
  10. ^ https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2025/10/07/domtar-releases-first-post-integration-sustainability-report-marking-a-milestone
  11. ^ https://www.recyclingtoday.com/news/paper-excellence-group-rebrands-as-domtar-resolute-forest-products/
  12. ^ https://www.packaging-gateway.com/projects/domtars-containerboard-production-facility-kingsport-tennessee/
  13. ^ https://www.recyclingtoday.com/news/domtar-completes-kingsport-conversion-recycled-packaging-mill/
  14. ^ https://www.timesnews.net/business/domtar-named-tennessee-recycling-coalition-s-2024-business-recycler-of-the-year/article_e0856ebe-66f1-11ef-b577-8f248cc5e519.html
  15. ^ https://magnoliatribune.com/2025/09/11/domtar-shuttering-grenada-paper-mill-impacting-more-than-150-employees/

October 2025

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Stop icon You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war, according to the reverts you've made to List of prime numbers. This means that you are repeatedly reverting content back to how you think it should be, despite knowing that other editors disagree. Once it is known that there is a disagreement, users are expected to collaborate with others, avoid editing disruptively, and try to reach a consensus – rather than repeatedly reverting the changes made by other users.

Important points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive behavior – regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not engage in edit warring – even if you believe that you are right.

You need to discuss the disagreement on the article's talk page and work towards a revision that represents consensus among everyone involved. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution if discussions reach an impasse. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to engage in edit warring, you may be blocked from editing. --JBL (talk) 22:31, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The description of the IP's edit as "vandalism" is also grossly inappropriate. Per WP:BRD, Mikeblas carried out a bold edit, the IP reverted, and now discussion should continue on the talk-page with the status quo ante in place until a consensus has been reached in favor of the change to a long-standing status. --JBL (talk) 22:32, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-43

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #223 is out: Welcome Zaree and Laura! Naming contest round 1 kicked off

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we welcome two new additions to the team, we update you on our naming contest for Abstract Wikipedia, we report on the next events we'll be part of, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 21:10, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-44

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #224 is out: Round 1 of “abstract content wiki” naming vote ending Monday; An example of short descriptions

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we update you on our naming contest for Abstract Wikipedia, we announce our first experimentation with short descriptions on Wikidata, we talk about our presentations at the upcoming WikidataCon 2025, and we take a look at the latest Type and software developments.

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Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on November 3, at 18:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Terse and unhelpful short descriptions

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I don't understand why you are editing short descriptions down to the point where they become useless to visitors. SDs have two principal uses (a) topic searches and (b) See Also lists where they help readers identify what lies behind an obscure topic name.

You may have missed the fact that the previous 40 character rule no longer applies (except to advise editors that there is an error in the app for iPhones where it fails to display anything beyond that). If you want to hunt down overly lengthy SDs, the focus now is on those >95 chars. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And WP:SDFORMAT says be written in plain text – without any type of markup or pictorial elements. It does not say ASCII characters only. Nor should it. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:57, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:SDFORMAT more carefully. The 40 character limit is still a strong requirement and plain text means plain. The two articles are being flagged in an error report — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 11:05, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(a) No, SDFORMAT says "short", 40 characters is a guideline. If the result is to make the SD useless, then it is self-defeating. And it only got to be 40 because of the error in the iPhone version of the app. The rest of the world does not have that problem.
(b) Can you point me to the error report because if it is flagging characters in widespread use, then there is something seriously wrong with it. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:12, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I have just opened a discussion, Wikipedia talk:Short description#SDFORMAT: "plain text" to debate the issue. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:54, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"List of FNCS winners" title

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Hey @GhostInTheMachine! I argue keeping the "FNCS" acronym in this title is appropriate. The tournament was named differently a few years ago, but the acronym has always been the same. In a way, early FNCS winners weren't Fortnite Championship Series winners – the tournament wasn't called that then. Do you agree? Rockfighterz M (talk) 14:02, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. The initials FNCS mean nothing to most people, so expanding to use full words really helps. If the expansion of the initials changed at some point, then there is an argument for two articles — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 14:11, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I see that. I suppose your title is better for those who don't know much about Fortnite, which is most readers here. On a "Fortnite fandom", the former title would have been better, I guess. Rockfighterz M (talk) 14:27, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there has been a change of name, then it would help if you added a note about that to the article lead section — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 14:30, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-45

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2025

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #225 is out: First round of voting for naming the wiki for abstract content closed; Calling for Wiktionary functions; Embedded Wikifunctions on Bengali Wikipedia and seven more Wiktionaries

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we update you on the closing of the first phase of the naming contest for Abstract Wikipedia, we introduce a possible implementation of Wikifunctions for Wiktionaries, we talk about our latest outreach events, and we take a look at the latest Type and software developments.

Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]