User talk:Extraordinary Writ

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By far the funniest and most clever Wikipedia page I randomly stumbled on. Kudos. The fish genuinely made me laugh out loud — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumtimz I B Learnin (talk • contribs) 07:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Block query

I see you got Special:Redirect/logid/169819047. I hesitate to start a cascade of "you're blocked because you're blocked", given that @Bbb23's original block was for "probable" block evasion rather than something more definitive, but I'm pretty sure we're looking at the same person in Special:Contributions/205.155.225.248 and Special:Contributions/205.155.225.249. Thoughts, both? They've said at User talk:Tarlby#Teahouse host that they prefer to remain as an IP editor, which, fair enough, but. -- asilvering (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Asilvering. Yeah, I rounded that one down to block evasion, but it was really the first part of Bbb23's block rationale ("disruptive editing; trolling") that resonated with me, especially after all of the WT:RFA nonsense. Probably trolling; could be CIR, but I guess it's all the same. I'd be minded to block the 205 IPs (who have been causing problems in projectspace for almost two years now and were already blocked once in 2023) as well, but happy to hear your thoughts. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We can narrow the range to 205.155.225.248/29, if we're going to rangeblock them. I'm typically not terribly in favour of blocking people for being only mildly to moderately annoying, and I rarely think it's fair to call "leaving unimportant talk page messages" trolling. But at the same time I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find that this particular editor was an LTA, so if either of you can recognize who they are from the additional evidence on this /29... -- asilvering (talk) 23:01, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, figured it out: see my report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ChronicleBooks885. I've now blocked the range. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I was expecting that I would rather edit Wikipedia as an anonymous IP was "because my previous accounts got blocked", but I was definitely not expecting that many accounts. -- asilvering (talk) 05:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So much for narrowing the range. I'll get the /28 after all. -- asilvering (talk) 18:38, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks. I see Izno has found a couple dozen more to boot. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sergey Brin Family Foundation

Hello! I would like to see what Sergey Brin Family Foundation said before it was deleted. Would you please restore it to my userspace? Cramulator (talk) 15:33, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cramulator. The Brin Foundation page was just a redirect to Bayshore Global Management (with nothing else in the history). If you want I can restore the deleted version of the Bayshore article, although it's not too different from the current recreated version. Just let me know. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I wonder whether you agree that redirect should be replaced? And linked to from the articles mentioning it? Cramulator (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, feel free. I guess another option would be to redirect to Sergey Brin#Personal life. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. It doesn't feel like Brin's Personal life section is best here for readers, to me. It's a pretty autonomous foundation with a board of directors calling the shots. I'm sure Brin has overwhelming influence over their decisions, but readers probably want to know about the organization, not just its inception, I suppose. Cramulator (talk) 22:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Artur Mija

You certainly have the authority as administrator, but I consider your reverting my last edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Mija&diff=1293532997&oldid=1293523112 violates WP:NPOL

Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline. --Aviapassion (talk) 07:10, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aviapassion, as a former member of parliament, Mija would fall under the first prong of NPOL (members of legislative bodies at the national level). It's not entirely obvious from the way the guideline is written, but in practice, national-level legislators are always considered notable, and it's extremely unlikely that the article will be deleted. If you want, though, you can start a full deletion discussion by following the instructions here. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:34, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The rules seem clear to me. Reference to

adds clarity in addition to rules stipulated in WP:NPOL and there is no contradiction. This article is perfectly fit for speedy deletion and reverting my edit is violation of Wikipedia rules. There are plenty temporary members of parliaments in different jurisdictions and this does not mean that they all merit an article. To start with, there is even no article in native language on this person - now we wonder what is the notability of this person to have an article in English? Your argument referring to “general elected status” could work at least in case of personal election. However, the members of Moldovan parliament are elected on party lists (people vote not for a person, but for the entire party list with whoever is registered in the list) Aviapassion (talk) 07:47, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your position and honestly sympathize with it to some extent, but the broader community has very consistently agreed that people in this situation are notable, even when the sourcing is doubtful. If you disagree with that, you're welcome to test it out by starting a deletion discussion. But I can't delete an article on my own unless it meets one of the narrow speedy deletion criteria, and none of those are met here. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:11, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick reply. Wikipedia:Speedy deletion#A7. No indication of importance (people, animals, organizations, web content, events) is the criteria for speedy deletion here. Consequently, in accordance with existing Wikipedia rules, the respective speedy deletion tag can be changed in the one explicitly referring to violation of A7 rule, but the deletion tag cannot be erased all together from the article. Otherwise, everybody and every admin may simply create her or is own rules and do whatever they want not respecting any rule whatsoever. Aviapassion (talk) 08:28, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A7 requires only a "credible claim of significance," which is considered an even lower threshold than notability. Being a member of parliament easily meets that standard, so I can't use A7. I'm sorry if that's frustrating, but there's really nothing I can do for you: please start a deletion discussion if you think the article should be deleted. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry. I think you did not read the article. This person is not currently member of parliament and, as per article, was member of parliament only for 7 months about two years ago. And even if the person was member of parliament today, what is exactly such significance claim as per A7 (please read explanations) and NPOL? I certainly do not intend to play this debate forever since I start doubting your good faith by interpreting as you desire clear Wikipedia rules. Please indicate exactly 1) where I can appeal of your edits/decision and 2) how to insert the correct speedy deletion tag and which one is it exactly? Aviapassion (talk) 09:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently we're not communicating well with one another. I suggest you ask about this at the Teahouse, where someone else can give you a fresh opinion. I'm going to sleep now and will not be able to respond for a while. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:22, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

u==Notice of noticeboard discussion==

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed.Aviapassion (talk) 10:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Aviapassion: I've already said as much in the AARV you opened, but I'll also say here directly to you: this speedy request was entirely correctly declined, and every administrator would have similarly declined it. If you're determined to pursue deletion, take your case to AfD, but don't expect it to return any other verdict than 'keep'. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for answering here. I read the “endorsements”, could you please repeat here which criterion exactly was not respected? Other users referred to a mysterious criterion, without clearly referring to it. Which one is it exactly? I also read your post here - I would have expected clear reference to the exact respected or violated Wikipedia rules - but didn’t see it here either. It is certainly thrilling to see you predict future decisions to be taken without any reference to Wikipedia rules, but I thought Wikipedia works otherwise. I noted your suggestion to AfD. Aviapassion (talk) 12:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Draft: Tulsi Bhagat

@Extraordinary Writ How to reach you regarding this particular person Tulsi Bhagat? I’ve very much of evidence against him. Please let me know. 2405:9800:B651:54BB:A99F:D4A1:45C6:2BCA (talk) 15:05, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you just sent an email to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org, we received it. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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"Tulsi Bhagat" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Tulsi Bhagat has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 15 § Tulsi Bhagat until a consensus is reached. COOLIDICAE🕶 18:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rfd

Hey sorry I was away for a while so didn't see the pings anyway but I did nom the redirect for Tulsi Bhagat for the same reason as the multiple deletions. Hope you're doing well! COOLIDICAE🕶 18:56, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]