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[edit]I notice in Special:Diff/1287737112/1289892526 that for example |author=Rukmini Callimachi is changed to |author=Callimachi + |first=Rukmini. This is confusing. If there is a "first" there should be a matching "last". I fear it will become a source of future errors made by other scripts and users. -- GreenC 14:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, that was a mistake on my part. i am not trying to confuse people--CitationAuditor (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- You are doing good work. My only other comment would be to place the work/website fields prior to URLs, keeping the URL technical information at the end and the author date title work information near the start, mirroring how it displays thus logically oriented. Ordering is not required but if you are reordering anyway, it's best practice. You can see recommended (though not required) ordering at TM:Cite web, in the usage section which was based on a best practice discussion at Help_talk:Citation_Style_1. -- GreenC 18:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- (oops, I see now those examples have the URL-like parameters spread throughout the template, which I don't agree with, could be open to future discussion - in reality most people do whatever they want, those examples are good for those who copy-paste an empty template) -- GreenC 18:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- You are doing good work. My only other comment would be to place the work/website fields prior to URLs, keeping the URL technical information at the end and the author date title work information near the start, mirroring how it displays thus logically oriented. Ordering is not required but if you are reordering anyway, it's best practice. You can see recommended (though not required) ordering at TM:Cite web, in the usage section which was based on a best practice discussion at Help_talk:Citation_Style_1. -- GreenC 18:48, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, that was a mistake on my part. i am not trying to confuse people--CitationAuditor (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I wrote a quick script to switch author --> last. It checked your edits since January 1, 2025, and made changes like this Special:Diff/1289027173/1289931780. If you think I should check further back from January let me know. It edited 35 pages. Thanks. -- GreenC 19:30, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll try to be more careful now.--CitationAuditor (talk) 00:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
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Ukrainian topic articles
[edit]Hey CitationAuditor, thought I'd reach out in case you'd be interested. Based on your talkpage posts here and here, it sounds like you have a strong interest/passion for Ukraine-related topics and thought I'd invite you to join WikiProject Ukraine. There's a lot of work to be done and your help would be really appreciated! :) Helping expand/improve coverage of Ukrainian history, culture, and geography articles would help the project and Ukraine a lot more than debates on article titles imo and is something that is in need a lot of work. I can also suggest some areas in need of work plus also could really use some help on some Ukrainian articles I've been working on too if you're interested. Many thanks for your interest in Ukraine and let me know what you think! ;) Dan the Animator 20:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: I think I'll hold off on joining until Wikipedia stops caving in to Russian propaganda about Ukraine's sovereign borders, calling Russia's invasion in 2014 literally anything but an invasion - "entered" "intervened" blah blah blah.--CitationAuditor (talk) 00:41, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- No worries! Personally I think waiting until sometime in the future to improve English Wikipedia's content on Ukrainian culture actually helps Russian propaganda by decreasing the availability of quality information and allowing that propaganda to fill in the void but that's just my opinion. I know from my experience it can also be difficult to readily find good English online materials on a lot of Ukrainian history and culture and I think that contributes a great deal to simplistic understandings of the events in 2014-2015 and also nowadays. I still think though if you support Ukraine or feel strongly for the country it would be good to reconsider eventually. Cheers, Dan the Animator 00:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: You're telling me you have an entire Wikiproject about Ukraine with lots of members, who want me to start writing lots new of articles about Ukrainian culture, but none of them have ever tried to correct Russian propaganda about the 2014 invasion of Ukraine that always avoids calling it an actual invasion? I won't write one darn article about Ukrainian culture art/food/dance/whatever until the wikiproject actually starts caring about respecting full Ukrainian sovereignty over all its territory - including Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk. I'll pass. Promoting Ukrainian sovereignty is far more important than pop culture.--CitationAuditor (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, Ukrainian culture is not simply "pop culture" and Donbas includes Luhansk (Donetsk is the oblast). I think you miss a valuable aspect of what your phrase "full Ukrainian sovereignty" includes: sovereignty over national identity and the history and culture of the land, not just the land itself. In any case, I don't mind you not being on the Wikiproject or whatnot. If your going to edit in contentious topics though, just keep in mind WP:Policies (especially Wikipedia:Consensus), and being very specific on what changes in which articles you'd like to see. Happy editing, Dan the Animator 00:16, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: If Wikipedia so-called "consensus" is that the invasion of Crimea and Donbass by Russia was just a little "intervention" or "troops entering" and not a "real invasion" - then "consensus" can grow screw itself. Truth doesn't care what other Wikipedia people want to say, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and anyone saying otherwise is either really dumb or really evil. Your first and sole priority should be ensuring that Russian propaganda about Ukraine's borders doesn't sneak into Wikipedia, not writing about some random Ukrainian musician with 900 followers on youtube.--CitationAuditor (talk) 01:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually haven't written about or done much of any edits to any Ukrainian musicians as of yet though I've been thinking of working on some classic Ukrainian folksongs eventually. In any case, I haven't heard of a consensus like that but if you believe there is, post at the Wikipedia:Help desk or Wikipedia:Village pump about it and they'll be able to help more and will definitely fix the situation. And I think the editors at either page would be better able to respond to your replies-I have nothing else to add and I don't think there's any reason for you to message me. Thank you! Dan the Animator 02:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- If you don't want a reply, don't write on MY talkpage (and don't minimize pre-2022 Russian crimes either).--CitationAuditor (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually haven't written about or done much of any edits to any Ukrainian musicians as of yet though I've been thinking of working on some classic Ukrainian folksongs eventually. In any case, I haven't heard of a consensus like that but if you believe there is, post at the Wikipedia:Help desk or Wikipedia:Village pump about it and they'll be able to help more and will definitely fix the situation. And I think the editors at either page would be better able to respond to your replies-I have nothing else to add and I don't think there's any reason for you to message me. Thank you! Dan the Animator 02:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: If Wikipedia so-called "consensus" is that the invasion of Crimea and Donbass by Russia was just a little "intervention" or "troops entering" and not a "real invasion" - then "consensus" can grow screw itself. Truth doesn't care what other Wikipedia people want to say, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and anyone saying otherwise is either really dumb or really evil. Your first and sole priority should be ensuring that Russian propaganda about Ukraine's borders doesn't sneak into Wikipedia, not writing about some random Ukrainian musician with 900 followers on youtube.--CitationAuditor (talk) 01:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, Ukrainian culture is not simply "pop culture" and Donbas includes Luhansk (Donetsk is the oblast). I think you miss a valuable aspect of what your phrase "full Ukrainian sovereignty" includes: sovereignty over national identity and the history and culture of the land, not just the land itself. In any case, I don't mind you not being on the Wikiproject or whatnot. If your going to edit in contentious topics though, just keep in mind WP:Policies (especially Wikipedia:Consensus), and being very specific on what changes in which articles you'd like to see. Happy editing, Dan the Animator 00:16, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator: You're telling me you have an entire Wikiproject about Ukraine with lots of members, who want me to start writing lots new of articles about Ukrainian culture, but none of them have ever tried to correct Russian propaganda about the 2014 invasion of Ukraine that always avoids calling it an actual invasion? I won't write one darn article about Ukrainian culture art/food/dance/whatever until the wikiproject actually starts caring about respecting full Ukrainian sovereignty over all its territory - including Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk. I'll pass. Promoting Ukrainian sovereignty is far more important than pop culture.--CitationAuditor (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- No worries! Personally I think waiting until sometime in the future to improve English Wikipedia's content on Ukrainian culture actually helps Russian propaganda by decreasing the availability of quality information and allowing that propaganda to fill in the void but that's just my opinion. I know from my experience it can also be difficult to readily find good English online materials on a lot of Ukrainian history and culture and I think that contributes a great deal to simplistic understandings of the events in 2014-2015 and also nowadays. I still think though if you support Ukraine or feel strongly for the country it would be good to reconsider eventually. Cheers, Dan the Animator 00:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
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