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Bad News (I need help)

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Hello. Remember Newsjunkie? She just reported me so this is truly bad right now. I kind of need help right now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Claiming_consensus_when_there_are_only_two_involved_and_personal_attacks NacreousPuma855 (talk) 05:16, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@NacreousPuma855:Yeowzza... this whole thing has gone off the rails. Yes, newsjunkie has a tendency to bludgeon discussion. However, you do not help yourself by doing the same. Her claim against you for personal attacks seem invalid, but you should make an effort to soften the tone. Make sure that you are WP:CIVIL regardless of whether the other party is or is not. Likewise, reverting because another party is edit warring against consensus is not a valid excuse to also edit war (3RR applies to all parties invovled - AND, any reverting can be considered edit warring - even 1RR). It seems your current block is limited in scope and is short - intended to stop further disruptive editing by any party while the dust settles. Hopefully, it's a teachable moment for you rather than a discouragement. ButlerBlog (talk) 21:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, I did respond to the ANI thread, as well as an additional one that opened since the article you're having issues with is not the only problem. ButlerBlog (talk) 21:57, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Removal

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Hi Butlerblog, I just wanted you to remove the "Mark of the Beast" from the "Number of the Beast" article and maybe I can try to create a new one. you see the Mark of Beast is not 666 (The number of Beast), Wikipedia needs more reliable information. The Mark of the Beast is unknown and useen, the Mark is believed to be many things but it's still not 666. 666 is the name of the beast, the Mark is not the name. ⟨⟨Beastboy-X-Talk!⟩⟩ 06:56, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeastBoy-X: Generally, discussions that are tightly related to content of an article (as this is) should take place on the article's talk page. But, I agree with your general premise and I'd support an article split. I doubt you'd get support for an outright deletion pending a new article, but a split might gain traction. However, the direction of a successful split would not be the way you've described it here. Your suggestion is very POV oriented. For example, some dispensationalists believe the mark is a visual and visible representation of the number. Whether that view is the "correct view" is not what encyclopedias determine. That would be POV. While our job is not necessarily to present "both sides" of an argument, it is to present information neutrally. So a successful split proposal would need to be focused just on "the mark is not necessarily the number - these are separate things". See WP:NPOV - especially this section: WP:BALANCE. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:35, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, you see l know the Book of Revelation, in fact it's my favourite book, I know it very well. The article forgot to mention the Pope, Pope Francis and Pope Benedict have a direct link to 666 because all Prophecies lead to Pope. You see:
Revelation 13:1 (KJV) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. Blasphemy is calling your self God we see with the Pharisees:
John 10:33 (KJV) The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. I can tell you everything about the Prophecy and Pope but for short, on the pope's miter, it's written in Latin:
Vicarius Filii Dei
Translation:
Vicar of the son of God
V=5
I=1
C=100
A=0
R=0
I=1
U=5
S=0
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=112
---
F=0
I=1
L=50
I=1
I=1
---
=53
---
D=500
E=0
I=1
---
=501
---
112+53+501=666.
Even the Roman Kingdom is 666:
HEBRON-Romiith
(Roman Kingdom)
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R=200 resh
O=6 waw(vav)
M=40 mem
I=10 yod
I=10 yod
TH=400 taw
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200+6+40+10+10+400=666
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Please read
I know a lot about Prophecies maybe you should give me more pages about Prophecies in Revelation or Daniel. ⟨⟨Beastboy-X-Talk!⟩⟩ 17:04, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
l know the Book of Revelation, in fact it's my favourite book, I know it very well. - That might actually be a reason for you to not work on the article. From what you've posted here, it would appear that you are interested in what we would classify as original research. We do not do original research here. What we write summarizes what is in secondary sources. You must have a reliable, citable source for what goes into the article - and in general, that must be a secondary source. We do not use primary sources to make interpretive claims. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:17, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay Okay Okay,
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 ⟨⟨Beastboy-X-Talk!⟩⟩ 19:20, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Far-right publications in the United States

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I have no real objection to this category existing in theory but in its current form - singularly a subcategory of far-right politics in the United States, utterly disconnected from 1) the publications category tree and 2) any other similar type of "far-right publication" e.g. neo-Nazi and nazi publications, which we also have categories for, it is extremely weird. Also, several of the entries here don't obey the Category:Creative works/Category:Mass media division, as singular instances they would be works, or are publishers. Having a single far-right category tree for a country, and no others, without even a no-country parent category, is odd.

Since you are the creator, do you have any ideas on how to proceed? Should we make a bigger category tree for it? PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:47, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Upon checking there is also the Category:Far-right organizations in the United States which has the same issue. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It started off because I was trying to subcategorize items in Category:Far-right politics in the United States. But it certainly should also exist as a subcategory of other related category trees where it makes sense. I just didn't do it at the time. And if it makes sense to refine works and mass media, absolutely do so. I was just trying to get things that were originally in the parent category into more appropriate subcategories, and one did not exist. ButlerBlog (talk) 00:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, cool, will get to that sometime (I made the parent of the publications one, see Category:Far-right publications. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for input on Ryan Holiday article

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Hello! There's an ongoing discussion about neutrality, tone, and sourcing on the Ryan Holiday article involving editors me and Vegantics. Given your experience with biographies and Wikipedia guidelines, your perspective would be valuable. If you have a moment, please share your thoughts here. Thanks in advance for your help!--IndyNotes (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]