User talk:Athanelar
Barnstars
[edit]A barnstar for you!
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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar |
| Thanks with helping getting my username changed! (This is the first barnstar I've given out) YourLocalZakkFromSomewhere (talk) 15:51, 12 November 2025 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
| For your work fighting spam and AI-generated content. RandFreeman 18:02, 20 November 2025 (UTC) |
Markup issues
[edit]edits like this one produce malformed list markup (as explained at MOS:INDENTGAP), because your first few paragraphs are indented by one colon, then the rest are not.
While you have fixed that specific cause, unfortunately the wider problem persists, for two reasons:
- The "Collapse" templates sit outside the lists
- You leave gaps between the indented paragraphs
The latter could be easily resolved. The former, not. My advice remains as previously: Put your boilerplate on separate page and link to it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:46, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Good to know, thank you! Athanelar (talk) 13:09, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi Athanelar. I was in the middle of nominating the above article for deletion when you requested speedy deletion. I'm not quite sure what to do now. Chess enjoyer (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- I think procedure is to wait for the speedy nomination to be declined before raising it at AfD (since if speedy is accepted then a simultaneous AfD would just be a time waste)
- Sorry to pre-empt you like that! I was going to AfD it myself but I don't think there's any dispute about the article, my BEFORE turned up nothing of use to evidence notability.
- I guess just keep your AfD post in the holster in case whoever sees the speedy nom disagrees with me. Athanelar (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Look at the page. It's at AFD right now, because Twinkle failed to cancel the nomination. I'm not opposed to speedying it per se, but thought it could use a wider discussion given how long it's been on here. I guess we'll see what happens. Chess enjoyer (talk) 23:17, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Ah yes, I see. Well, if anyone wants to weigh in on the AfD in the meantime then I suppose they can. Athanelar (talk) 23:20, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Look at the page. It's at AFD right now, because Twinkle failed to cancel the nomination. I'm not opposed to speedying it per se, but thought it could use a wider discussion given how long it's been on here. I guess we'll see what happens. Chess enjoyer (talk) 23:17, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again. I've withdrawn my AFD nomination. Could you go to the AFD page and indicate whether you still think the article should be deleted? Chess enjoyer (talk) 16:55, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
Teahouse reply on dispute resolution
[edit]Hi, Athanelar, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and in particular for your efforts helping new users at the WP:Teahouse, where your advice is generally very good. In one reply to a user, you suggested six things a new user could do in their early career here to learn how Wikipedia works that are easier than trying to create an article, all good ones imho, but I disagree with the last one mentioned, about reading discussions at WP:AN/I in order to "see how disputes are handled here" (diff). I really, really, would not recommend observing ANI to new editors. For one thing, ANI is *never* about resolving disputes about article content, that is handled elsewhere; ANI is strictly about handling conduct disputes, and often as not, ends up with editors—sometimes brand new editors—being sanctioned, or booted off Wikipedia entirely. It's a scary page for a newcomer to read, and might put them off of editing Wikipedia at all. ANI is about the last place I would send a new user to to learn about Wikipedia. There are plenty of other places to learn about dispute resolution involving article content, and you could send them there (I wouldn't; I would focus on the positive for a brand new editor, but that's at least a defensible choice) but I definitely would not send a new editor to ANI to learn about Wikipedia. Other than that minor point, I think your responses are pretty good, so once again, thanks for helping out at the Teahouse, and keep up the good work! Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- Valid point. My suggestion is based on the fact that observing ANI and seeing how Wikipedia handles problematic editors is pretty much what started my Wikipedia career (after 3 years of my account being largely inactive and only used for a very occasional gnome edit), but I recognise that my own specialised interest in procedural matters is not necessarily something shared by the general public. I'll amend my template. Athanelar (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2025 (UTC)