User talk:Anwegmann
Changes to Lommel S.K.
[edit]I looked further into the page's revisions and noticed that Joey Pelupessy has originally been added as NED, then changed to IDN with no sources or reasoning. Thus, I reverted the back-and-forth warring so your revision is the most recent as of now. GiraffenCode (💬|📝) 23:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate it. Anwegmann (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
"Cap-tied" following an allegiance switch
[edit]Hi there! Hope you're doing well. I wanted to get your opinion regarding footballers who have gone through an allegiance switch this year, and are listed in FIFA's Change of Association Platform. I saw you've made edits on a lot of these guys after non-registered users added information about them being 'cap-tied' following the switch. I'd like to ask for your insight on whether we should consider adjusting the wording, as it may appear confusing that a player is 'cap-tied' without earning a single cap yet and, as per FIFA's rulebook, they can still request to revert back to their previous sporting nationality if they don't appear for their new national team, meaning they're not that 'tied' at all. What do you think? Take care! KibolLP (talk) 13:21, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @KibolLP: Thanks for the message. There is a very longstanding consensus that a player's lede changes only after that player has appeared for the new national team, which is my main concern with these unregistered users' edits. There are a lot of players with secondary citizenships and who have switched their allegiances with FIFA but never actually played for the new national team. So to change the lede would only lead to confusion. But more to your point, I like the addition of a sentence in the "International career" or "Personal life" section about the switch of allegiance, but I agree that asserting a "cap-tie" is a bit much, and also a misnomer of sorts, especially without an actual cap to do the tying, as it were. Anwegmann (talk) 14:31, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Anwegmann Ah, the good ol' WP:ETHNICITY - those inaccurate edits sure can be annoying, or straight up funny when they're constantly done to players who are not even eligible to play for a certain country (e.g. Vladan Kovačević)...
- As for the 'cap-tied' - thank you, in the next few days I'd like to edit those sentences so that they reflect on the switch process more accurately (e.g. "changed his allegiance", "his request to switch international allegiance was approved", etc.), and remove links to the Cap-tied article, unless you object and/or see a better way of making such edits. Thanks a lot for the response, and all your work. Have a good one! KibolLP (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @KibolLP: Yep, WP:MOSETHNICITY indeed! It's unbelievably annoying—indeed, GiantSnowman has recently, and fittingly, started calling it "nationalistic vandalism." I find it strangely prevalent with players connected to Indonesia—or more specifically, players born in the Netherlands who have obtained Indonesian citizenship. I'm not sure why that's the case, but it's an endless wave of IPs and throwaway accounts breaching MOSETHNICITY over and over.
- I'm with you wholeheartedly with the "cap-tied" situation. When I see it, I'll make the changes as well. I'll check out how you phrase it and follow suit, creating something of a working consensus in the process.
- Thanks again for the message and your work to this end. Anwegmann (talk) 16:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
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Hi
I saw that you repeatedly un-did changes in Como 1907 page regarding the recent changes of nationality (according FIFA eligibility rules) of:
- Emil Audero (Italian to Indonesian)
- Assane Diao (Spanish to Senegalese)
- Fellipe Jack (Brazilian to Italian, already joined U20, in February 2025)
Altough they still have to debut in their respective new national football team, I think that nationalities can be already changed, as all of them have been called up for the new national football team and, mainly, they all accepted (and, of course, changes have been approved by FIFA). Waiting few days will not change anything, as eventual return to previous NFT should, anyway, follow a new procedure for switch.
I think that there is no more need to un-did edit that update their nationalities. What do you think?
Riktetta (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Please follow standard WP:FOOTY practice. Anwegmann (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Read it, they have nothing against nationality changes... Riktetta (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Yes they do, especially when the player has not yet played for the new national team. Once the player has played for the new national team, the lede becomes ambiguous. This long-established consensus, not my personal opinion. Anwegmann (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Read it, they have nothing against nationality changes... Riktetta (talk) 19:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Nationality change
[edit]Reason for undoing latest edit on Hamza Chowdhury? He is by born bangladeshi and changed his allegiance from england to bangladesh. He is also in the Bangladeshi squad for next march against india in march. CaptShayan (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Because he hasn't played for Bangladesh yet. Once he does, the lede in his article will become ambiguous. This is standard, long-established WP:FOOTY consensus. Anwegmann (talk) 18:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- So I can change it once he plays for Bangladesh? CaptShayan (talk) 05:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- You can make it ambiguous once he does, yes. Anwegmann (talk) 08:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright buddy. Thanks for the assistance. Happy editing. CaptShayan (talk) 19:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- You can make it ambiguous once he does, yes. Anwegmann (talk) 08:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- So I can change it once he plays for Bangladesh? CaptShayan (talk) 05:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
MOS:ETHNICITY
[edit]The guideline makes sense for "normal" article with lede. However we have here a single-sentence stub and the policy makes no sense, becaus you are effectively deleting 40% of information. --Altenmann >talk 01:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't really matter, as WP:MOSETHNICITY only refers to the lede, not the article as a whole. His multiple ancestries and/or citizenships can—and should—just as easily appear in a "Personal life" section. That said, this article being a stub, it might not belong on Wikipedia to begin with. Anwegmann (talk) 01:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yes it does matter. Please read the policy carefully:
"This is an example of a person who established a career in Europe as a Hungarian, then emigrated to the United States and was naturalized and continued his career, and is thus known as both a Hungarian actor and as an American actor. The use of and again prevents the introduction of ethnicity or birth."
- If not belong, please put it to AfD (I don not care and probably will vote to delete; oh, you already did this), but do not delete essential, referenced information from Wikipedia. --Altenmann >talk 01:50, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did created an AfD for it, as I couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV on him, much less enough to verify that his life story comes anywhere near the example you posted above. I fully disagree that the cluttered lede is "essential" information, as it more serves to confuse than inform. But I'll leave it be until the AfD is done, as I don't think the article belongs on Wikipedia with the paucity of sources. If it survives the AfD, then we can pick up the conversation again, I suppose. Anwegmann (talk) 01:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- My point is that the article has no lede. Yes nationalities and country of origin and birthplace and girlfriends' names are essential personal information and should not be deleted, if referenced. If cluttered, then unclutter. In your particular case you created a false article, because he is not a "moldovan footbaler", that's why I noticed your edit, otherwise I could care less about a minor ballkicker. --Altenmann >talk 02:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did created an AfD for it, as I couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV on him, much less enough to verify that his life story comes anywhere near the example you posted above. I fully disagree that the cluttered lede is "essential" information, as it more serves to confuse than inform. But I'll leave it be until the AfD is done, as I don't think the article belongs on Wikipedia with the paucity of sources. If it survives the AfD, then we can pick up the conversation again, I suppose. Anwegmann (talk) 01:54, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Miguel Márquez
[edit]"Although I have little doubt that this AfD will result in a no consensus"; don't be so sure. The discussion might be tied with three deletes versus three redirects, but one of them was CANVASS (intentionally or not), and another one was made by me, who has already made it clear that his sole purpose is to salvage his 0% deletion ratio. Any respectable administrator will delete it. But for the sake of my streak, I hope you are right... Barr Theo (talk) 03:43, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
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Serbian SuperLiga
[edit]Hi,
I am just cleaning up the formatting for the squads, it's more visually appealing. I have been updating the kits for years, take a look at my edit history. KninGrad (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @KninGrad: That is not standard WP:FOOTY formatting for squads. Your work on kits, which I never mentioned and don't have a problem with, is good. Anwegmann (talk) 01:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I see that, but you don't think my edit is easier to read? KninGrad (talk) 01:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @KninGrad: I do not think it is easier to read. Standard practice is numerical order. Positions change more fluidly than numbers, and they also spark debate much more often. That's why listing players in numerical order is the consensus decision of WP:FOOTY. Anwegmann (talk) 01:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree but I will defer. KninGrad (talk) 01:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- I can also argue that today people's sex changes more fluidly than numbers. KninGrad (talk) 01:40, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree but I will defer. KninGrad (talk) 01:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @KninGrad: I do not think it is easier to read. Standard practice is numerical order. Positions change more fluidly than numbers, and they also spark debate much more often. That's why listing players in numerical order is the consensus decision of WP:FOOTY. Anwegmann (talk) 01:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I see that, but you don't think my edit is easier to read? KninGrad (talk) 01:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Pulisic revert
[edit]Hi! Just interested to know what your reason was for reverting. Unfortunately, your revert did not provide an edit summary that wasn't the default. It would be good if you just provided your reason for reverting. I'm totally fine with the revert, but it's stall best to explain a reason for doing it. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- It is long-held consensus that Pulisic's quality is continental rather than national. Changing a long-established sentence in the lede because of opinion, as this edit seems to do, is a matter for the Talk page, in order to reach a new consensus, rather than a WP:BOLD edit. Anwegmann (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Anwegmann Got it. Totally understand. Didn't even know there was a consensus on that issue. I really wish that consensus were more specified for editors. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 20:40, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that consensus should be more clearly marked or, at the very least, more easily discoverable. No worries. Anwegmann (talk) 20:59, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Anwegmann I also added an invisible comment on it. Servite et contribuere (talk) 20:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Anwegmann Got it. Totally understand. Didn't even know there was a consensus on that issue. I really wish that consensus were more specified for editors. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 20:40, 2 June 2025 (UTC)