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Classical library is back

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About three years ago, you assisted with addressing Classical library. I've mentioned you in an ANI thread about that editor's most recent IP socking on Seraphim Rose. If you have time, I'd appreciate an admin with knowledge of the case to drop by. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

-Ad Orientem (talk) 02:22, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. This is to do with an outstanding legal threat from a range associated with the Saving Abel page, which you protected. Thank you. Departure– (talk) 02:01, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

-Ad Orientem (talk) 02:22, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New message from BangJan1999

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Hello, Ad Orientem. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase.
Message added 22:17, 25 July 2025 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I have responded to your comment at WP:RPP. BangJan1999 22:17, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hari Hara Veera Mallu

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I disagree with your comment, and would like to make further clarification. Just like The Apprentice (2024 film), a movie about Donald Trump, falls under CTOP of American politics (1992 - now), the movie Hari Hara Veera Mallu, about Mughal Empire, falls under the CTOP of Indian military history which is required to be under ECP protection.[1] You should upgrade the page protection to indefinite ECP protection. THEZDRX (User) | (Contact) 04:04, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done @ZDRX There is an important difference here. Donald Trump is a real person. He is the real president of the United States and one of the most controversial persons on the planet in the year 2025. As far as I am aware there is no evidence that anyone named Veera Mallu ever existed. The film is historical fiction. It is not Indian Military History and therefor CTOP does not apply. I have semi-protected the page due to a long history of disruptive editing. At this time I am not seeing a compelling argument for ECP. -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:18, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hari Hara Veera Mallu did not exist, but Koh-i-Noor, Mughal Empire, Aurangzeb and more topics of the movie existed. In any case, fictional people are also covered by CTOPs. For example, Suhaldev, Vikramaditya and more fictional people are covered by CTOP of WP:CT/SA. THEZDRX (User) | (Contact) 07:36, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ZDRX For the majority of CTOP related topics, editing restrictions are discretionary. There is a short list of topics where extended confirmed is mandatory and I requested clarification on the subject out of an abundance of caution before responding here. See this discussion. As I noted above, while the subject of Indian military history falls under that heading, it is not applicable in this case. CTOP/SA does exist. However editing restrictions in that area are discretionary. I have semi-protected the page x 1 year which I believe is adequate for now. A quick look has not shown any deliberate disruption since I protected the page. If that changes, I am open to modifying page protection on an as needed basis. Given the past history, I would not be shocked if disruption were to resume once the current protection expires. If it does, I would likely move to protect the page indefinitely. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:51, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IP is back

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Hey a new IP is back reverting genres back on Head over Heels (Paula Abdul album) and Spellbound (Paula Abdul album). Might want to place a better protection on it. They're IP locates in the UK. I’m guessing it's Maria again. Pillowdelight (talk) 10:58, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pillowdelight. The page is currently pending changes protected, so any edits by IPs and non-autoconfirmed users require approval before being accepted. As of right now the edits are waiting to be approved or reverted. You can review them and revert their edits if they are not properly sourced or are obviously disruptive. You can also drop a warning template on their talk page. WP:Twinkle is a helpful tool for making quick reverts or issuing warnings if you don't already have it. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:40, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay I see it now. I sent the editors who approved them a message letting them know the situation in case the IP comes back again (which will most likely happen). Pillowdelight (talk) 15:53, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They've now created an account continuing their sock behaviors. Pillowdelight (talk) 18:04, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They still can't edit the page directly until they are autoconfirmed. Also, if they don't have another account this isn't sockpuppetry. We generally encourage IPs to create an account. Let's see where this goes. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean it's very obvious it's MariaJaydHicky. The account did admit to saying their previous account was compromised [2] Pillowdelight (talk) 18:27, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pillowdelight Ok, I'm now satisfied they are a sock puppet and have blocked them. I've bumped the page protection to semi x 3 months. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:28, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FYI I'm off to the dentist. Won't be back for a couple hours. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. Hope everything goes okay at the dentist for you! Pillowdelight (talk) 18:32, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection: Massachusetts

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I just wanted to say thanks and I had no idea there was even a discussion taking place. If there was, I would've been very vocal about it. I am so sick of seeing vandalism on the article that focuses on my home state. I would love to contribute either to discussion or editing, but I'm not knowledgeable on Wikipedia editing at all, including etiquette with it.


Anyways, thanks! Butterscotch5 (talk) 03:19, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Butterscotch5. It's not that complicated. I left a template with a few links on your talk page. Happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:22, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chad Magendanz

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Many thanks for protecting this page. Unfortunately when the page protection ceased, the IPs returned and have continued to disrupt the page. Can you return the page protection please? Or should I ask at RFP? Many thanks. Nayyn (talk) 10:03, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nayyn Looks like it has been handled by our newly minted admin Ser!. To whom I extend my felicitations. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:26, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
thats wonderful, many thanks to you both! Nayyn (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025%E2%80%9326_Malaysia_Super_League&diff=prev&oldid=1303669947

protection can't help without banning this user; he was reverted and keeps with own edits (some correct to distract admins, but gets caught by familiar topic followers; hope enough for your further action) 93.143.164.17 (talk) 13:14, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like an ordinary content dispute. Please discuss your concerns with Reez95 on the article talk page and seek WP:CONSENSUS. If you believe their edits are disruptive and efforts at discussion have failed, you may report the matter at WP:ANI. Please be aware that you will be required to produce evidence, usually in the form of diffs, as well as demonstrating your efforts to discuss the matter without success. See also WP:DR for more tips on resolving disagreements. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:47, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Association of Deletionist Wikipedians

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Hi Ad Orientem, I just realised that the page for the Association of Deletionist Wikipedians got, well, deleted a year ago. While I appreciate the irony, I’m curious why? Can you cast any light on it? Thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 22:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz Well that was depressing. It appears to have been deleted due to inactivity per this nomination. The irony... -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:54, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Echetus

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Hi, after your semi-protection of the Echetus article expired, an IP readded the changes made by earlier IPs, which had been reverted by several long-term editors as disruptive. The IPs are clearly being used by the long-term sock master Deucalionite, as they have the same IP range, ISP, geolocation and POV as previous IPs used by him. Can you impose another, longer semi-protection on the article? Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:19, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktrimi991 I'm not seeing any functional difference between the two versions. The link still goes to the same site. What am I missing here? -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An IP made several changes which were reverted by established editors as disruptive. One of them requested semi-protection, and you semi-protected the article to prevent persistent disruption. Now another IP has readded those changes again (e.g. the addition of a category, content additions to the lede, various changes to the article's body) [3], so I thought they were still considered to be disruptive. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:26, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktrimi991 I see. I will take a look farther into the editing history. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:31, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ktrimi991 The page protection was in response to some heavy duty edit warring. I probably should have been more specific when I was protecting the page. If things resume I may have to issue warnings. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:36, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, OK, thank you for the clarification. I thought that your semi-protection considered that IP's changes as disruptive, hence my request here. The editors who want to revert the new IP can open an SPI if they wish so, since the IPs are being used by Deucalionite; up to them how they decide to proceed. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:20, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted articles history

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There is a history that shows all deleted Wikipedia articles in chronological order. Can I please see it, or can you tell me where to find it. I do remember seeing it before. Davidgoodheart (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Davidgoodheart Good to hear from you. If there is a master list of all articles deleted on Wikipedia somewhere, I am not aware of it. The closest thing I can think of is the deletion log. There are multiple ways to search the log. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It only lists deleted articles from years ago. Is there a way to access more recent deletions from it? Davidgoodheart (talk) 07:35, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Davidgoodheart Try this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).

Administrator changes

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Oversight changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
  • Following a request for comment, there is a new policy outlining the granting of permissions to view the IP addresses of temporary accounts. Temporary account deployment on the English Wikipedia is currently scheduled for September 2025, and editors can request access to the permission ahead of time. Admins are encouraged to keep an eye on the request page; there will likely be a flood of editors requesting the permission when they realize they can no longer see IP addresses.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case Indian military history has been closed.
    • South Asia (WP:CT/SA) is designated a contentious topic. The topic area is specifically defined as All pages related to the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups.
    • The contentious topic designations for Sri Lanka (SL) and India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan (IPA) are folded into this new contentious topic.
    • The community-authorized general sanctions regarding South Asian social groups (GS/CASTE) are rescinded and folded into this new contentious topic.
  • The arbitration case Article titles and capitalisation 2 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case closed on 31 July.
  • The arbitration case Transgender healthcare and people has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 11 August.

Miscellaneous

  • Wikimania 2025 is happening in Nairobi, Kenya, and online from August 6 to August 9. This year marks 20 years of Wikimania. Interested users can join the online event. Registration for the virtual event is free and will remain open throughout Wikimania. You can register here now.
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