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Westmoreland tornado

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Would you say the 2024 Westmoreland tornado meets WP:NTORNADO? I'm going on a spree of writing about tornadoes "with a section on the Tornadoes of ______ articles but with no outbreak articles", and Westmoreland is one of those. EF5 17:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's right on the edge of notability, but I'd say, if it doesn't have an article for its parent outbreak, having one on just the Westmoreland tornado is going to be helpful. I see the LASTING coverage. Departure– (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmphk, I'll draft one up once I'm done with Columbus. It's weird, I've noticed that I'll write about tornadoes for a few months, lose motivation, and then come back randomly. EF5 17:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Storm season does that. Once storm season is over (if 2025 will grant us such a luxury) I imagine the project is going to go into hibernation for a period. Departure– (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That was the most boring part of last year. The good part is that when TOR season ends in July-ish, hurricane season starts! EF5 17:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Earlier if we're luckier (?). Departure– (talk) 17:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A bit off topic, but oh my god: Several strong tornadoes appear likely, and a high-end long-track tornado will be possible from far southeast Missouri, into southern Illinois and southern Indiana, southward into western Kentucky and far northern Tennessee in the D1 outlook. Very quickly turning into a Mayfield-type situation. — EF5 12:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Time to get to work on the article (assuming I end up having the time to write and not watch). I'm probably going to include AFDs in there too. Departure– (talk) 12:45, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In case you missed it

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In case you missed it, likely the deadliest tornado since Mayfield went through a heavily populated part of SE Kentucky. On my talk page I noted that there was no PDS warning for some reason and I have a feeling that contributed. EF5 14:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say I didn't call it earlier. Apparently NWS Jackson is horribly understaffed, and yeah, the PDS warning came too late for many. If the figure of 14 dead is accurate and confirmed to all be from the single tornado, it's the deadliest since Rolling Fork in 2023, which had 17 fatalities. More storms are expected today in the vicinity of DFW. I am going to be working on this for quite a while. Departure– (talk) 14:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's likely to be more unfortunately; the tornado debarked trees and granulated debris. EF5 14:13, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think 2025 is finally breaking through the quasi-major outbreaks of the past few years and showing us its ugly face in terms of significant and deadly tornadoes. 2022-2024 only had a few killer tornadoes, and never more than one EF4 in an outbreak (minus the November 4-5 event) and this year we've seen three in a day and we likely just saw another one happen last night. Departure– (talk) 14:16, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yea. I'm going to set up a draft for the upcoming 30%s, both look worse than what happened last night. EF5 14:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, @EF5, if you're still trying to make an article on tornadoes every year (per your now deleted userpage), I'd wager this year your best bet would be Somerset. We'll have a preliminary rating within the next week. Departure– (talk) 14:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I can already seen the "Damage in Somerset - one year later" news stories. I'll start a draft and probably publish it sometime in the next 4 months. EF5 14:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Look at this satellite imagery. Look where the triple-point of Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia meet, and look up from that. It produced a visible scar. — EF5 15:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My, it's been years since I've seen a clear-as-day track to that extent. It's very reminiscent of the Mayfield tornado to me. Departure– (talk) 16:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Check this out, it's even more well-defined. — EF5 15:52, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:May 2025 Kansas tornado outbreak

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The 15z HRRR run is absolutely insane, so I've started this. Feel free to help. — EF5 16:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let me take a minute to check that. I don't think a "MM YYYY L tornado outbreak" name works here as storms will occur over Oklahoma and potentially Texas too, and in my opinion, the threat tomorrow will be more widespread, if not more impactful. Departure– (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both today, tomorrow and Tuesday look nasty, so I'm starting it today. Hoping to publish once the event has started and at least one tornado has been radar-confirmed. — EF5 16:25, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My input is that the "absolutely insane" characterization ahead of the warm front is going to actually have enough moisture to compensate for lacking the heat of the main warm sector, and the boundary-level helicity readings and hodographs are pretty crazy. I expect today to have a lot of deviant motion given how strong the lower-level winds are, but while we might see a lot of tornadoes, some likely strong, I don't expect anything to be given a rating above EF2 or so, given the area's pretty rural, but if storms hit populated areas, we might see a higher rating on one of those. The amount of discrete supercells is telling for me. Departure– (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You never know. If you don't mind could you help with the metsyn? I suck with the super-sciency stuff but have the "advanced forecasting" part nailed. — EF5 16:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Within the next few hours. I'll be honest, I'm a bit burnt out from the last outbreak, especially the socking going on and the RM and all that. Once I set aside some time I'll be sure to help out. (p.s. I have no intention of doing any "nowcasting" on this article to see if that helps with my burnout. That's a whole can of worms I don't want to open again. Any news, "XY struck by violent tornado", etc would have to be on someone else.) Departure– (talk) 16:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I fully understand! Trust me, I've needed a break for a while but there's too much tornadic stuff going on to take one. I still don't think I've fully grasped the events of Friday night, was up till ~3 am and haven't decompressed. Besides, I nowcast all the time. — EF5 16:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Took care of that with a move to a more standard title. The location title only really works if we have multiple well-documented RSs and papers on a specific location that was the bulk of the activity such as 1999 Oklahoma and 2020 Nashville. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 18:12, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today

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Watch today closely. Today could very well overperform, and the only thing holding back a higher risk level is uncertainty. It's at night over Dixie Alley, too, so this could very easily be a very dangerous setup. I myself would've gone with a 15% hatched and MDT stretching from North Alabama to Middle Tennessee, but the experts are located in Norman, Oklahoma, not Ohio. EF5 14:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not again. I was actually thinking of writing a draft for the St. Louis tornado - while it might seem premature I honestly do think there's enough sources for a proper article to be made this early on. I did see it coming, for the record. Today doesn't need to overperform to be impactful, the last two days have been the damn crown on the head of this year's tornado season. Departure– (talk) 14:59, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
St. Louis almost got bullseyed again yesterday! I'd say wait, it's 100% going to be targeted for AfD by someone given the outcome of the Somerset page. — EF5 15:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, I'm willing to fight for it to stay up. The coverage I'm seeing for St. Louis is somehow greater in magnitude than that from Little Rock or Greenfield initially, and is currently more than most of the May 15 event overall (not the psycho crazy one, the one the day before that explicitly did not overperform). Departure– (talk) 15:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huge tornado barreling into Athens. Wow. EF5 23:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, we're over 24 hours in and I've seen plenty of weatherspace regulars come in and contribute instead of sending it to AfD. My money's on it being sent there by an A5 sock, if it ever does wind up there. Departure– (talk) 00:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lucky you! I’ll go for Somerset in a month-or-two, assuming someone didn’t get to it before me (given there were already two pages up within a day of it, though, I doubt it’ll be long). EF5 01:13, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Tornado outbreak sequence of May 15–16, 2025

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On 24 May 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tornado outbreak sequence of May 15–16, 2025, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural closures

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Seeing as how you closed the 15th-16th via procedural closure because of sockpuppetry, I think this would also be the option for closing this old discussion as well, as it was also started by a now-blocked IP likely of Andrew5 origin. I would do it myself, however I still am sanctioned on closing discussions and thus cannot do it, even if it was on good intentions. I might BOLDly move it should this be the way you go about this (14th-17th? Idk) But the main goal right now is if you can close that discussion on the same basis as you just did before. MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 00:20, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, I'll use the same closing rationale etc. Departure– (talk) 00:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually going to get a second opinion here due to the sheer length of discussion. Departure– (talk) 00:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]